Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

[King_B_Mack]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

Just nice to know it happens.

The whole Kobe adjusts thing is a tired narrative dudes do it besides him. LeBron's so talented he needs to be refining his game, and I know Bron posting is something we've discussed here plenty. He's such a mismatch, how can he not want to go down low and just abuse teams. With his vision and passing ability if they double he can dissect.

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This is what I really fear about basketball going forward. In addition to the confidence thing that Red pointed out, I think that guys have just gotten so seduced by the Sportscenter/highlight reel culture of sports to the point that they just want to do the sick dunks or layups or long threes while posing for five seconds after the shot leaves your hand and think posting up isn't flashy looking enough. Guys look for the wrong things when they're watching or at least following basketball. It's probably a completely irrational fear, but it just makes me think fundamental aspects of the game will just cease to exist because guys just forget about them in they're quest for cash and top plays.

[The 24th Letter]

Seeing someone add to their game is one of my favorite things to see at the pro level....I'm not a Kobe/ Dirk fan by any stretch but I admire this about them...

Whether it was the *** whooping he took last year or people in his ear....I give LBJ much props for adding this to his game, and being successful....

What's this? Hakeems second successful graduate? Lol

[The 24th Letter]

This is what I really fear about basketball going forward. In addition to the confidence thing that Red pointed out, I think that guys have just gotten so seduced by the Sportscenter/highlight reel culture of sports to the point that they just want to do the sick dunks or layups or long threes while posing for five seconds after the shot leaves your hand and think posting up isn't flashy looking enough. Guys look for the wrong things when they're watching or at least following basketball. It's probably a completely irrational fear, but it just makes me think fundamental aspects of the game will just cease to exist because guys just forget about them in they're quest for cash and top plays.

It's funny, watch any 80s/ mid 90s game and you won't go 5 possessions without seeing someone doing something with their back to the basket....from the PG to the C....

What gives me hope is players like Bron, KD, Rose, Love who have taken the time to add things to their game....it's not completely lost....

[23]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

With the disappearance of the big men post players and Stern's vision to make the NBA more eurofied... it has been lost in translation

They were talking about this on TNT a couple of Thursday's ago. There are a few guys that see the need for it and hopefully they are successful with it enough that others see it and want to incorporate

Tim Duncan probably the most fundamentally sound, and probably greatest post player of this generation is completely overlooked and trashed about being boring although he has it down to a science... its disgusting

[Chrisksaint]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

Eric Gordon out 6 more weeks, had his knee cleaned up recently

[PlusTheHarm]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

Eric Gordon out 6 more weeks, had his knee cleaned up recently

Dude's just waiting. lol

[Chrisksaint]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

We'll see I doubt we let him just walk, I'm fine with him getting his surgery and getting healthy given the current state of the Hornets

[The 24th Letter]

Chris Paul.....CHRIS PAUL..of the CLIPPERS....said Dirk was "flailing" too much last night....

[Dice]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

What's this? Hakeems second successful graduate? Lol

Let's not give Olajuwon the "Yoda" title just yet. Remember, he's also worked with Emeka Okafor and Hasheem Thabeet. And Howard is still a 'wait and see'.

[ZB9]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

seems like folks should get their basketball prodigy kids to also play soccer and handball since those sports seems to have given an extra advantage to players like Hakeem, Nash, Nowitzki, Kobe...Hakeem attributes much of his amazing footwork to playing soccer growing up...btw DHoward might be an amazing goalie lol

[RedSceptile]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

Chris Paul.....CHRIS PAUL..of the CLIPPERS....said Dirk was "flailing" too much last night....

Cue Kevin Hart

Let's not give Olajuwon the "Yoda" title just yet. Remember, he's also worked with Emeka Okafor and Hasheem Thabeet. And Howard is still a 'wait and see'.

Dice don't forget Hasheem never really had much offensive foundation to begin with. If you don't have the talent for said skills to begin with doesn't matter. It'd be the equivalent of getting Bill Russell to try and teach Carlos Boozer defense. He might be able to do it, but he wouldn't become elite at it. LeBron already had the basics for the most part.

[ZB9]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

Chris Paul.....CHRIS PAUL..of the CLIPPERS....said Dirk was "flailing" too much last night....

ha thats very ironic coming from the mayor of flop city

someone had a good analogy, that's like T-Pain complaining about auto-tune

[The 24th Letter]

Let's not give Olajuwon the "Yoda" title just yet. Remember, he's also worked with Emeka Okafor and Hasheem Thabeet. And Howard is still a 'wait and see'.

Kindve what I meant....he's like 2 1/2 for 5 lol

[Dice]

Re: Game Discussion Thread 2/13/12 - 2/19/12

Dice don't forget Hasheem never really had much offensive foundation to begin with. If you don't have the talent for said skills to begin with doesn't matter. It'd be the equivalent of getting Bill Russell to try and teach Carlos Boozer defense. He might be able to do it, but he wouldn't become elite at it. LeBron already had the basics for the most part.

I agree that you can't teach a guy like Hasheem the basics and still expect him to dominate the league with the Dream Shake. Not going to work. Maybe Olajuwon is trying too hard to form these guys in the image of himself? Not sure. Hopefully, Olajuwon realizes that most of these guys don't have nearly the amount of footwork he had to perform his moves.

When Pete Newell was running his Big Man Camp, he was probably the best at giving big men the fundamentals. From my understanding, Pete didn't try to mold you into a big man that you weren't. He try to refine the skills you already have and make it effective in the post. Guys like Bill Walton, Shaq and Hakeem Olajuwon himself are students of the camp.

[J_Posse]

Man, even NBATV's studio group (any combination) is better than ESPN/ABC. They really need to add a lead studio guy and get rid of Magic and Broussard.

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