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  • ballsohard
    Pro
    • Jan 2012
    • 640

    #1

    Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

    Both players are in their prime. Who would you rather have as the focal point of your team? Who was the better player?
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    Banned
    • Mar 2006
    • 20857

    #2
    Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043400859

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    • ehh
      Hall Of Fame
      • Mar 2003
      • 28962

      #3
      Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

      This isn't even close, Ray Allen by several margins.

      I'll add it to my running tally, this is probably the 20th time I've said it on these forums, but Miller was by far the most overrated player of the 1990's.
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      • ex carrabba fan
        I'll thank him for you
        • Oct 2004
        • 32744

        #4
        Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

        I think Ray is one of the more underrated players of his time, and that Reggie may be a bit overrated due to his clutch moments.

        Outside of AI, I don't think there was a better SG not named Kobe during that era. And I think Ray/AI were neck in neck.. but I'd give AI a slight edge due to his monster years of his prime.

        But Ray was one of the most complete players and had all the athleticism.. and had that deadly three game. Definitely underrated IMO.

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        • Weeks
          L Corleone
          • Aug 2009
          • 2990

          #5
          Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

          ray allen IMO
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          • Moses Shuttlesworth
            AB>
            • Aug 2006
            • 9435

            #6
            Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

            I remember watching Ray light up the Pacers in 2001 dropping 36 on 7-9 from deep...I was a young boy thinking to myself who is this MJ????

            So fun to watch

            And this of course

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            • AlexBrady
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 3341

              #7
              Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

              Originally posted by ballsohard
              Both players are in their prime. Who would you rather have as the focal point of your team? Who was the better player?
              Both were outstanding spot shooters and deadly when a ballgame was on the line. Allen was the more willing and accurate passer. Allen's handle was tighter. Allen created his own shots better and was a slightly better finisher. Miller was two inches taller, so he had an easier time getting his shots off. Allen was the better rebounder.

              While Allen was barely an average defender, Miller's defense was pitiful. Allen was more committed to executing offensive sets, while Miller usually aborted plays. Without the ball, both Allen and Miller expertly used screens. Neither guy liked to be banged around and that was how teams tried to combat them (if the refs allowed it of course).

              In my estimation, Ray Allen was the much better player and is truly a deserving Hall of Famer. Is Miller a Hall of Famer? Yes, but its a close call.

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #8
                Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                Allen has that Kobe syndrome where he D's up when needed. I've seen him lock up plenty, but on average IDK how I'd rate him defensively.

                Miller defensively... hmm. Yikes.

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                • The 24th Letter
                  ERA
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 39373

                  #9
                  Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                  People were VERY down on Allen's D before the trade to Boston...shows you what buying into a system can do for you....

                  I'm glad someone remembers Allen's handles.....dude had a tight cross back in the day...

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                  • NYJets
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 18637

                    #10
                    Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                    Ray by a lot.
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                    • ballsohard
                      Pro
                      • Jan 2012
                      • 640

                      #11
                      Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                      I'm kind of surprised by everyone saying Ray, even though I don't disagree. I've asked this on another site last year, and literally everyone said Reggie.

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                      • Moses Shuttlesworth
                        AB>
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 9435

                        #12
                        Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                        Originally posted by ballsohard
                        I'm kind of surprised by everyone saying Ray, even though I don't disagree. I've asked this on another site last year, and literally everyone said Reggie.
                        You asked a Pacers board

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                        • st0rmb11
                          All Star
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5167

                          #13
                          Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                          This isn't even a "debate", to me. The aspect that both are known for, 3 pointers, is dominated by Allen. He has made more in his career, and has shot a higher percentage.

                          But above that, Allen could actually create a shot for himself or for others if they took away his 3 point shot. This is huge when it comes to late game shooting and scoring. Having a player who can create his own shot is so much better than having a player who you have to set up for open shots.

                          Say what you will about Reggie's clutch exploits, but just in his time in Boston, I've seen Allen hit just as many big shots. That's not even mentioning his huge games in Milwaukee & Seattle (and several in Milwaukee were playoff games).

                          Defensively, I don't think it's even a debate. Athletically, it's not a debate. Really, it's not a debate at all. Allen is leaps and bounds better than Miller

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                          • The15thunter
                            MVP
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 1639

                            #14
                            Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                            ray allen in every way, really.
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                            • Hassan Darkside
                              We Here
                              • Sep 2003
                              • 7561

                              #15
                              Re: Reggie Miller or Ray Allen?

                              Ray Allen. He's a better actor overall though I think Reggie was a better actor on the court.
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