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  • Drewski
    Basketball Reasons
    • Jun 2011
    • 3783

    #3406
    Letting Ryan Anderson go as a restricted free agent in a sign and trade involving only Ayon was a mistake. Attach a bad contract with him at the very least if you aren't willing to pay him 4/36m (would rather pay Anderson than Jameer personally). The angle is clearly that they are paying Baby in the same position so let Anderson go, but they should have utilized Anderson in the sign and trade to their advantage. Legit stretch 4.

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    • phenom1990
      MVP
      • Mar 2008
      • 4789

      #3407
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

      If you look at the contracts of NBA point guards, Jameer deal is what is expected. They basically added another year to his original deal with a partial guarantee in the 3rd year.
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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #3408
        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

        Originally posted by Drewski
        Letting Ryan Anderson go as a restricted free agent in a sign and trade involving only Ayon was a mistake. Attach a bad contract with him at the very least if you aren't willing to pay him 4/36m (would rather pay Anderson than Jameer personally). The angle is clearly that they are paying Baby in the same position so let Anderson go, but they should have utilized Anderson in the sign and trade to their advantage. Legit stretch 4.

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        This is assuming that the Hornets would take one of those bad contracts or assuming that another team would, which nobody knows except the people who are actually the ones making these moves.

        I mean did anybody really expect Anderson to get 4 year, $36 Mil from any team? For all we know, he might've just been a product of being on the same floor with Duhwight, who we all know generates double teams on a regular basis leaving at least one of those shooters open for a good look.
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        • Drewski
          Basketball Reasons
          • Jun 2011
          • 3783

          #3409
          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          This is assuming that the Hornets would take one of those bad contracts or assuming that another team would, which nobody knows except the people who are actually the ones making these moves.

          I mean did anybody really expect Anderson to get 4 year, $36 Mil from any team? For all we know, he might've just been a product of being on the same floor with Duhwight, who we all know generates double teams on a regular basis leaving at least one of those shooters open for a good look.
          Maybe they wouldn't have, but he was their second best player. I'm not assuming Hornets would or could have taken on a contract, but as Orlando that would have been my position. He could have signed the offer sheet and they could have matched, in the position of sign and trading and only getting Ayon or just matching, definitely would have matched or worked something better out.

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          • Altimus
            Chelsea, Assemble!
            • Nov 2004
            • 27283

            #3410
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            And based on what we "know" Duhwight only wants to go to one team. Otherwise if that "rumor" wasn't true, don't you think he would've been moved by now? Especially if it's this easy?

            As for resigning Nelson, ya'll making it sound like the dude is no longer good or that there were better options(Let's be real, they weren't going to get Deron who would be the only upgrade out there for that position)or that his contract is ridiculously bad(3 year, $19.7 Mil)compared to the other contracts that have been dished out*cough*Jeremy Lin*cough*.

            The only thing I'll criticize Orlando on is not hiring a Head Coach sooner because I thought that should've been a bigger priority than trading Duhwight since technically he's still under contract and you're not under some deadline to hurry up and move him at this point.
            Who knows man what Dwight wants... for all we know that one team maybe a $50m/per year contract for CSKA.

            As far as Nelson, I disagree. You can say Hinrich is about the same level now that Nelson is and look at the difference in money.

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            • phenom1990
              MVP
              • Mar 2008
              • 4789

              #3411
              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

              Originally posted by Drewski
              Maybe they wouldn't have, but he was their second best player. I'm not assuming Hornets would or could have taken on a contract, but as Orlando that would have been my position. He could have signed the offer sheet and they could have matched, in the position of sign and trading and only getting Ayon or just matching, definitely would have matched or worked something better out.

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              The Magic drafted Andrew Nicholson, who is similar in the way he plays compared to Ryan Anderson. So I can see why they didn't want to match.

              The Magic are in a real awkward position with Dwight. I don't think they want to take back a max Brook Lopez contract and there doesn't seem to be indications that Bynum wants to sign long term. It makes it harder to trade any of Hedo, J-Rich, Duhon or Big Baby contracts. Orlando best option in the end may be to do a sign and trade next off-season and try to net a huge trade exception.
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                yellow
                • Sep 2002
                • 66469

                #3412
                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                I think Orlando's first mistake which I wouldn't have done is how they completely Botched the Smith, Gundy, Howard working relationship

                Hiring Jacque Vaughn is either a chepo move just to have someone named "coach" in there, or they dont have much of a plan to do well and so they didn't go after someone they know who has a track record.

                Anderson did well for them, why let go of him and keep Jameer? Only thing I can think of is that he wanted out because he was disgusted at how things were handled. You better believe alot falls on management when it gets this sloppy

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                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #3413
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                  Originally posted by phenom1990
                  The Magic drafted Andrew Nicholson, who is similar in the way he plays compared to Ryan Anderson. So I can see why they didn't want to match.

                  The Magic are in a real awkward position with Dwight. I don't think they want to take back a max Brook Lopez contract and there doesn't seem to be indications that Bynum wants to sign long term. It makes it harder to trade any of Hedo, J-Rich, Duhon or Big Baby contracts. Orlando best option in the end may be to do a sign and trade next off-season and try to net a huge trade exception.

                  There are no sign and trades next year, this is the final year of that... and another thing ... Dwight signing that opt in was a mistake also

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                  • King_B_Mack
                    All Star
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 24451

                    #3414
                    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                    The Jameer deal really isn't that bad at all. 3 years, 19 million? What's that like 6.3 a year or something? What, they gonna run Chris Duhon's garbage *** out there to start at point? Your roster is screwed either way for the next few years once Dwight is gone. You resign Nelson to a short term deal as they did, you sell a couple tickets in Orlando with a name from the Finals run that Orlando fans like (obviously not as many tickets as with Dwight or to make up for the loss of Dwight) and in the meantime you can draft a point guard and let Jameer mentor him in his last two years there. The way y'all are talking you'd think they resigned the dude for 11 or 12 mil a year for four or five years or something.

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #3415
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                      Looks like Brandon Rush will be returning to the Warriors, perhaps alongside Carl Landry. I'm surprised nobody made an offer to Rush though. He reminds me of a Marcus Thornton type guy.

                      The Warriors are close to coming to terms with restricted free agent Brandon Rush and are also on the verge of signing free agent power forward Carl Landry, according to Mark Bartelstein, the agent for each player.

                      The Warriors had made clear early in the offseason that re-signing Rush, who averaged 9.8 points and 3.9 rebounds per game, was a priority. Rush shot 45.2 percent from 3-point range in 2011-12, sixth in the league.

                      As a restricted free agent, Rush had the right to sign an offer sheet from another team and then wait for the Warriors to match the offer or not. But Rush had failed to get a qualifying offer, and so he will simply come to terms on a contract with Golden State.
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                      • Drewski
                        Basketball Reasons
                        • Jun 2011
                        • 3783

                        #3416
                        Well that pretty much leaves Meeks and Barbosa for LA to target. Hoping its Meeks.

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                        • ex carrabba fan
                          I'll thank him for you
                          • Oct 2004
                          • 32744

                          #3417
                          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                          I wouldn't mind Barbosa since he can play either guard position [don't want Steve Blake in until he proves he can get back to form], but I haven't heard the Lakers targeting him.

                          I still want CJ Miles, though obviously any help would be better than what they have.

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                          • DukeC
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2011
                            • 5751

                            #3418
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                            Looks like Brandon Rush will be returning to the Warriors, perhaps alongside Carl Landry. I'm surprised nobody made an offer to Rush though. He reminds me of a Marcus Thornton type guy.



                            http://www.csnbayarea.com/basketball...31&feedID=5986
                            Brandon Rush plays nothing like Thornton.

                            That is all.

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                            • fluent2332
                              MVP
                              • Aug 2005
                              • 1735

                              #3419
                              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                              As a Warriors fan, I really like the team going forward. Hopefully Klay Thompson continues to develop, and Harrison Barnes is actually good. I hope they can add Landry too. They are pretty solid IMO though and pushing for a playoff spot. If Bogut and Curry stay healthy they will be dangerous.

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #3420
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                                Originally posted by DukeC
                                Brandon Rush plays nothing like Thornton.

                                That is all.
                                Haha, I don't know if that's a good or bad thing but Thornton is definitely the better player. I meant more Rush was a nice scoring wing who probably isn't a starter but is a rotational guy.

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