NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

[ex carrabba fan]

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Lakers have been linked to Barbosa, Meeks and CJ Miles. If they could get any of those guys it would be a nice way to finish out the bench, compared to last year's debacle.

Leandro Barbosa remains a free agent and the Lakers appear to have interest.

Barbosa finished the 11-12 season with the Pacers following a trade from the Raptors.

Via Marc Stein/ESPN (via Twitter)

[Altimus]

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I think I'd take Barbosa on that list. Miles is nice but he won't bring that scoring punch that Barbosa does in the Playoffs.

[wwharton]

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I think he could go to Europe and the Bulls would probably love that option since they retain his rights, don't pay him and let him progress.

But then wouldn't they lose his rights and make him eligible to re-enter the draft?

[ZB9]

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I think I'd take Barbosa on that list. Miles is nice but he won't bring that scoring punch that Barbosa does in the Playoffs.

Lakers need ball handler depth more than anything imo

Barbosa would be an upgrade for them in that department imo

[TheMatrix31]

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If Barbosa goes to Los Anghelles too......

[Altimus]

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But then wouldn't they lose his rights and make him eligible to re-enter the draft?

Not sure what the rule is... the only time a 1st rounder doesn't sign is when he's already a international player. Or in the Bulls case now and Travis Knight.

[Altimus]

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Also Sir Charles speaks on Chicago:

"I think it's a disgrace that they haven't taken care of Tom Thibodeau," Barkley said on "The Waddle & Silvy Show" on ESPN 1000. "This guy is unbelievable. I'm surprised they haven't given him a long ... But apparently (the Chicago Bears) screwed Matt Forte for the last year and a half. Something bout you guys in Chicago, you're all cheap, you don't want to pay people."

Barkley said the fact the Bulls have had the league's best record the last two regular seasons is a testament to Thibodeau.

"The Bulls came out of nowhere the last two years," Barkley said. "And let's be honest, (Joakim) Noah is my favorite player, you know I'm a big Derrick Rose fan, he's just a flat-out stud, but for that team to have the best record in the NBA (in 2010-11) and be right there again (in '11-12), and I have to tell you something, it ain't like they have a bunch of (butt-kickers) on that team, I might add. They just play great defense, and they play with great energy. But when you stack up the Bulls against the elite teams, they're not the most talented bunch in the world."

Truth!

[JerzeyReign]

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Here's the rule for you guys. Couldn't find something that completely covered the Teague situation but this is the only thing I can find regarding not signing a pick. The Bulls were dumb anyway for signing him at that spot if they didn't want to give the kid that money.

What if the team and their drafted player can't agree to a contract? What options does the player have? How long does the team keep his draft rights?

The player's options are limited. What happens depends on a number of factors:

• If the player is already under contract to, or signs a contract with a non-NBA team, the team retains the player's draft rights for one year after the player's obligation to the non-NBA team ends. Essentially, the clock stops as long as the player plays pro ball outside the NBA. Players are not included in team salary during the regular season while the player is under contract with a non-NBA team.
• If the player goes on to play college ball after he was drafted, then the team retains the player's draft rights until one year following the draft the player would have entered had he not declared early. For example, if a team drafts a college sophomore in 2012 and he returns to college and plays intercollegiate basketball, then they retain his draft rights until the 2015 draft. Note that the NCAA rules state that players lose their NCAA eligibility if they are drafted, so the player currently cannot return or go on to play college ball. This rule exists in the CBA in the event the NCAA rules ever change.
• If the player was eligible to play in college before he was drafted but does not go on to play college basketball, then the team retains the player's draft rights until the draft the player would have entered had he not declared early. For example, if a team drafts a college sophomore in 2012 and he does not return to college and play intercollegiate basketball, they retain his draft rights until the 2014 draft.
• For all other players, the team retains the player's draft rights until the date of the next draft.

In any of the above cases, if the team does not sign the player in the allotted time, the player can enter the next draft. If the team that selects the player in the next draft doesn't sign him either, he becomes a rookie free agent on the date of the following draft.
When a team signs a first round draft pick within three years after he is drafted, they use the salary scale for the year in which he signs (usually the player signs in the same year he is drafted). After three years they have the option of either using the salary scale or signing him as if he was a free agent -- using their cap room or any available exception, with the standard raises. They can only do the latter if the player did not play intercollegiately in the interim. Such a contract must be for at least three seasons, and the salary in the first season must be greater than 120% of the applicable rookie scale amount.

[Altimus]

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What I thought, he could go overseas. He'll be lucky to pull 100K right now though.

IMO Teague should have stayed in school and the Bulls shouldn't have panicked and picked him just because Jones wasn't on the board anymore.

Now the rumor is they're trying to package him and Hamilton to the Cavs...

[bigeastbumrush]

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Is Teague really that bad?

Why not just sign him and send him to the D-League for awhile.

I find it hard to believe that he is as bad as people are making him out to be. I'm sure he needs development but so do alot of late round picks.

Though the Bulls may be kicking themselves royally for not drafting Tyshawn Taylor.

[Weeks]

He's pretty bad...a lot of potential because he is good athletically and has good handles, but simply put he needs some work.

And I think game experience in the d-league would help him out

[Drewski]

Sounds like CJ Miles going to Cleveland. One less wing on LAs board.

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[TheBadazz]

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He's pretty bad...a lot of potential because he is good athletically and has good handles, but simply put he needs some work.

And I think game experience in the d-league would help him out

I wouldn't hurt to sign him and develop him in the D-league. The Bulls always do things that bite them in the *** later. This is what the D-League is for. Bulls management seems to be not with the times. Jerry Reinsdorf needs not to own the Bulls and Sox. He's a cheapskate when it comes to basketball.

Wiki him

[wwharton]

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Here's the rule for you guys. Couldn't find something that completely covered the Teague situation but this is the only thing I can find regarding not signing a pick. The Bulls were dumb anyway for signing him at that spot if they didn't want to give the kid that money.

What if the team and their drafted player can't agree to a contract? What options does the player have? How long does the team keep his draft rights?

The player's options are limited. What happens depends on a number of factors:

• If the player is already under contract to, or signs a contract with a non-NBA team, the team retains the player's draft rights for one year after the player's obligation to the non-NBA team ends. Essentially, the clock stops as long as the player plays pro ball outside the NBA. Players are not included in team salary during the regular season while the player is under contract with a non-NBA team.
• If the player goes on to play college ball after he was drafted, then the team retains the player's draft rights until one year following the draft the player would have entered had he not declared early. For example, if a team drafts a college sophomore in 2012 and he returns to college and plays intercollegiate basketball, then they retain his draft rights until the 2015 draft. Note that the NCAA rules state that players lose their NCAA eligibility if they are drafted, so the player currently cannot return or go on to play college ball. This rule exists in the CBA in the event the NCAA rules ever change.
• If the player was eligible to play in college before he was drafted but does not go on to play college basketball, then the team retains the player's draft rights until the draft the player would have entered had he not declared early. For example, if a team drafts a college sophomore in 2012 and he does not return to college and play intercollegiate basketball, they retain his draft rights until the 2014 draft.
• For all other players, the team retains the player's draft rights until the date of the next draft.

In any of the above cases, if the team does not sign the player in the allotted time, the player can enter the next draft. If the team that selects the player in the next draft doesn't sign him either, he becomes a rookie free agent on the date of the following draft.
When a team signs a first round draft pick within three years after he is drafted, they use the salary scale for the year in which he signs (usually the player signs in the same year he is drafted). After three years they have the option of either using the salary scale or signing him as if he was a free agent -- using their cap room or any available exception, with the standard raises. They can only do the latter if the player did not play intercollegiately in the interim. Such a contract must be for at least three seasons, and the salary in the first season must be greater than 120% of the applicable rookie scale amount.

Good lookin' out.

As for the D league, they gotta sign him first... and to more than "D League money".

[King_B_Mack]

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I wouldn't hurt to sign him and develop him in the D-league. The Bulls always do things that bite them in the *** later. This is what the D-League is for. Bulls management seems to be not with the times. Jerry Reinsdorf needs not to own the Bulls and Sox. He's a cheapskate when it comes to basketball.

Wiki him

It seems like he puts his focus on one or the other. Sox are in first place so it's time to get super cheap on the Bulls side. Bulls are good looking in place to do something while the Sox aren't a playoff team so we can go looking to land a big free agent. I like him, but there are times where he annoys the hell out of me.