NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

[DukeC]

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Martin is a streaky shooter, he got 17 a game because he's a volume shooter. I rather have Aaron who's younger, shoot better, plays better D and have a good contract if he have a break out year, not to mention he put up 15 last year.

Summer league? Yea that is a good measurement for college players who played in a top notch conference.

Jones is not skill enough to play 3 and not good in the post to play the 4 nor does he have a jumper to make up for his lack of post game. Lets see if he even average 9 and 5 during the next 2 years in the NBA. Harkless has more upside regardless of summer league.

And what made you mention Royce's name? I didnt even mention him. I said half of the guys they were offering are DLeague talent and that holds true (with guys like Lamb, Morris and Jones.)

Point is, the trade isn't as terrible as people are making it out to be. I personally would have accepted the Houston deal just for the fact that I am losing Rich, Duhon and Davis. Parson and maybe White (if he could translate his inside/outside game and protect the ball more) would def be in Orl for awhile but everyone else, not so much.


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And I think people are taking the "OKC way" out of context.

OKC did a fine job of scouting and evaluating players. Harden, West and Durant (too skinny) werent sure things. Each and everyone of those guys had negatives about them. I even remember people here saying Harden wasnt going to be good on draft day.

#1 pick or 30th pick, it doesnt matter as you pick the players that you feel fit into what you are trying to do on the court. I have no problem with the the comment especially with the way Orl been drafting for the last decade..

1st Bolded: WHAT? Well, you're going to get shot attempts if you're the best scorer on the team besides Scola and Dragic. And Dragic didn't really come into his own/start until Lowry got injured. McHale then put Lowry in his doghouse (Huh, seems like McHale put people in his doghouse who he didn't get along with....never mind the fact that neither player previously had a problem with coaching before this so....this is probably a McHale problem).

2nd Bolded: Huh? The Summer League is a relatively good indication of whether or not you're capable of holding your own against NBA level players. Terrence AND Lamb have shown they can....While Moe has not. Keep harping on the potential though.

3rd Bolded: So...the guy who struggled in the SUMMER LEAGUE isn't a D-League talent compared to the guy who's putting up solid numbers? Kay.

4th Bolded: Kay. You are really biased if you're calling Jeremy Lamb a D-League talent. You know...despite the fact that he was torching everyone there...

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Lamb is a bum tho...

[Jukeman]

1st Bolded: WHAT? Well, you're going to get shot attempts if you're the best scorer on the team besides Scola and Dragic. And Dragic didn't really come into his own/start until Lowry got injured. McHale then put Lowry in his doghouse (Huh, seems like McHale put people in his doghouse who he didn't get along with....never mind the fact that neither player previously had a problem with coaching before this so....this is probably a McHale problem).

2nd Bolded: Huh? The Summer League is a relatively good indication of whether or not you're capable of holding your own against NBA level players. Terrence AND Lamb have shown they can....While Moe has not. Keep harping on the potential though.

3rd Bolded: So...the guy who struggled in the SUMMER LEAGUE isn't a D-League talent compared to the guy who's putting up solid numbers? Kay.

4th Bolded: Kay. You are really biased if you're calling Jeremy Lamb a D-League talent. You know...despite the fact that he was torching everyone there...

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Lamb is a bum tho...

You do know summer league is made up of guys who play dleague or guys overseas looking to make a team right?

And yes I still stand by potential. The guys you keep harping about doesnt have a high ceiling. You can bookmark my post for future reference if you want.

K-Mart only put up 17 as the top scorer shooting 41% yea, he's way better than Aaron..

[Bull_Market]

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I'm still lmao @ people posing worse case scenarios for the Lakers.

Are they going to be world beaters? Of course not, lets not be silly.

Are they a better team than they were? In my opinion, absolutely they are.

I think some of you spend more time thinking about the Lakers than you do on whatever team it is that you're a fan of. (which I get)

We'll see what happens when the season gets underway. I predict a lot more Laker talk then, that's a given.

Based on a few people's opinions on OS, old *** Lakers combined with Dwight's back pose no threat to the title. Hopefully other teams will be thinking that as well.

Worse case scenario is them winning 50-55 games and locking up the #3 seed. The high PNR with Nash/Gasol is going to be fun to watch. Gasol will probably feast as a weakside blocker and rebounder with Howard in town.

Someone eluded to this earlier, how long before Kobe pulls the iso-ball? He will still be the focal point and go to guy as Dwight has the offensive game of raw high school kid and cant make a FT.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I wanna know how long before the "Fire Mike Brown" chants come out(not that I think he'll get fired anyway but you know how people are), because you know they're going to come but it's just a matter of whether it's before the ASB or after the ASB.

Shoot, Spoelstra was hearing those from media by end of the November the 1st year Wade, Bosh and James played together lol.

[Weeks]

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Worse case scenario is them winning 50-55 games and locking up the #3 seed. The high PNR with Nash/Gasol is going to be fun to watch. Gasol will probably feast as a weakside blocker and rebounder with Howard in town.

Someone eluded to this earlier, how long before Kobe pulls the iso-ball? He will still be the focal point and go to guy as Dwight has the offensive game of raw high school kid and cant make a FT.

That is beyond an exaggeration. You're saying you could pick up some random RAW high school kid and him and the best center in the NBA will have an equal offensive game...SMH

People give Dwight way to much **** for finishing with the highest percent shot in basketball (the dunk), and using his amazing strength to his advantage and not trying to pull off some fancy post move when he could just back the defender down and dunk over them.

I guarantee you could not pick up some random high school kid, give him Dwight's body and have him average 20+ PPG shooting close to 60%

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I thought it was obvious he was exaggerating it but however his point still remains in that Duhwight's Offensive repertoire leaves alot to be desired.

[RedSceptile]

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If the Lakers lose their opening game I guarantee people are gonna be like "OMG WTF MIKE BROWN Y U NO WIN FIRE HIM AND GET PHIL JACKSON OR RED AUERBACH IDC IF HE DEAD"

[Bull_Market]

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I wanna know how long before the "Fire Mike Brown" chants come out(not that I think he'll get fired anyway but you know how people are), because you know they're going to come but it's just a matter of whether it's before the ASB or after the ASB.

Shoot, Spoelstra was hearing those from media by end of the November the 1st year Wade, Bosh and James played together lol.

First time they lose back to back games.

[Weeks]

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First time they lose back to back games.

@Bull Market

If your post was intended to be an exaggeration...then I apologize for my brash response.

If it wasn't, then I stand by my post

I know Dwight has work to do offensively, but he is definitely above the level of a high schooler.

[Bull_Market]

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@Bull Market

If your post was intended to be an exaggeration...then I apologize for my brash response.

If it wasn't, then I stand by my post

I know Dwight has work to do offensively, but he is definitely above the level of a high schooler.

Lol, its cool, massive hyperbole on my end.

[DukeC]

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You do know summer league is made up of guys who play dleague or guys overseas looking to make a team right?

And yes I still stand by potential. The guys you keep harping about doesnt have a high ceiling. You can bookmark my post for future reference if you want.

K-Mart only put up 17 as the top scorer shooting 41% yea, he's way better than Aaron..

And you do know neither of the Rocket rookies (White, Jones, Lamb, Machado or Montejunes) struggled right? Which is the point I'm making. You said they were d-league players. I'm disagreeing with that notion entirely. If anything Mo is looking like the d-league player.

What does he have? Potential? That gets you buried on the end of the bench. Combined with the fact he can't shoot either (which is why I was wondering why you brought that up)? Okay, that makes alot of sense Juke. Yep, neither Terrence Jones nor Moe can shoot yet Terrence is still having an impact on the game while you rave about Mo's potential. Cool.

I never said anything about K-Mart being better than Affalo. You questioned Kevin's ability to score. I refuted/disagreed with that. Simple as that. Affalo isn't someone who can consistently go and get his own via creating his own shot.

Aside from that... Afflalo had the luxury of playing with Wilson Chandler, Ty Lawson, and Gallo. Every single one of those guys are playmakers. Who was giving K-Mart the ball? Lowry, Dragic, Parsons? Hmmkay.

I'd also like to point out in Pre All Star break he was averaging 18 PPG on 43% shooting and 36% from 3...after the All Star break is when he really started struggling through an 8 game stretch and that's what brought his shooting percentage down.

[JODYE]

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1st Bolded: WHAT? Well, you're going to get shot attempts if you're the best scorer on the team besides Scola and Dragic. And Dragic didn't really come into his own/start until Lowry got injured. McHale then put Lowry in his doghouse (Huh, seems like McHale put people in his doghouse who he didn't get along with....never mind the fact that neither player previously had a problem with coaching before this so....this is probably a McHale problem).

2nd Bolded: Huh? The Summer League is a relatively good indication of whether or not you're capable of holding your own against NBA level players. Terrence AND Lamb have shown they can....While Moe has not. Keep harping on the potential though.

3rd Bolded: So...the guy who struggled in the SUMMER LEAGUE isn't a D-League talent compared to the guy who's putting up solid numbers? Kay.

4th Bolded: Kay. You are really biased if you're calling Jeremy Lamb a D-League talent. You know...despite the fact that he was torching everyone there...

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Lamb is a bum tho...

So did Adam Morrison. World Beater.

[Jukeman]

And you do know neither of the Rocket rookies (White, Jones, Lamb, Machado or Montejunes) struggled right? Which is the point I'm making. You said they were d-league players. I'm disagreeing with that notion entirely. If anything Mo is looking like the d-league player.

What does he have? Potential? That gets you buried on the end of the bench. Combined with the fact he can't shoot either (which is why I was wondering why you brought that up)? Okay, that makes alot of sense Juke. Yep, neither Terrence Jones nor Moe can shoot yet Terrence is still having an impact on the game while you rave about Mo's potential. Cool.

I never said anything about K-Mart being better than Affalo. You questioned Kevin's ability to score. I refuted/disagreed with that. Simple as that. Affalo isn't someone who can consistently go and get his own via creating his own shot.

Aside from that... Afflalo had the luxury of playing with Wilson Chandler, Ty Lawson, and Gallo. Every single one of those guys are playmakers. Who was giving K-Mart the ball? Lowry, Dragic, Parsons? Hmmkay.

I'd also like to point out in Pre All Star break he was averaging 18 PPG on 43% shooting and 36% from 3...after the All Star break is when he really started struggling through an 8 game stretch and that's what brought his shooting percentage down.

Jones, Lamb, White where in the trade alleged trade talks..

Moe got injured in the first summer league and the staff decided to sit him. Not to mention he was the youngest player in the draft.

I never questioned Kevin's ability to score..I said he's streaky and he has been that his entire career. He doesnt play D and wasnt going to be apart of the Magic's future after that 12 mil came off...

Aaron is younger, better shooter, plays D and hasnt hit his prime..Easy math problem.

If scoring is your concern, I am sure Harrington doesnt have a problem shooting the ball as often as K-Mart and be just as efficient. They can also buy out his contract after the season..

[iLLosophy]

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Any Temple fans in here? Cavs just signed C/PF Micheal Eric and Byron Scott thinks he could be a Serge Ibaka. Did Cavs get a sleeper?

[Jukeman]

Any Temple fans in here? Cavs just signed C/PF Micheal Eric and Byron Scott thinks he could be a Serge Ibaka. Did Cavs get a sleeper?

Maybe if he can stay healthy but even that is a stretch.

Ibaka been playing in Spain for a long time...Better opportunity to develop.

I see a good defensive big but not Ibaka. Mbenga? Probably.