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  • ex carrabba fan
    I'll thank him for you
    • Oct 2004
    • 32744

    #4336
    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

    Originally posted by Drewski
    Lakers just used their TPE for Nash. The Nuggets used their Nene trade exception for Iggy. Wouldn't call it useless.

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    Gerald Wallace to Brooklyn
    The Bogut for Monte Ellis trade

    ...

    The list goes on

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    • Altimus
      Chelsea, Assemble!
      • Nov 2004
      • 27283

      #4337
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
      -Steve Nash to L.A.
      -Lamar Odom to Dallas

      ...
      For the most part... maybe useless was bad wording but it does usually just expire out.

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      • Altimus
        Chelsea, Assemble!
        • Nov 2004
        • 27283

        #4338
        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

        And for Orlando it is worthless...

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        • Drewski
          Basketball Reasons
          • Jun 2011
          • 3783

          #4339
          Originally posted by Altimus
          For the most part... maybe useless was bad wording but it does usually just expire out.
          Cap flexibility and money saving is huge now, and Orlando may have one of the biggest exceptions in history. Like many have said, who knows. Perhaps they'll use it to facilitate something down the road.

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          • ex carrabba fan
            I'll thank him for you
            • Oct 2004
            • 32744

            #4340
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

            I don't know, I mean I'm sure Orlando is going to do all they can to use it. I think minimizing their TPE is a bit premature at this point.

            There have been several notable trades just in the past year that have included the TPE.

            Orlando doesn't have much to trade but I wouldn't be surprised if they were to parlay their large exception into something decent.

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            • rdnk
              All Star
              • Feb 2009
              • 5730

              #4341
              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

              That massive exception may make them the go to team if a deal needs to add a 3rd or 4th team.
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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #4342
                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                I'm a big fan of Afflalo, but I'd take Jeremy Lamb and Donatas Motiejunas > him without the slightest hesitation.
                Not mad at you, but I don't see either option as that much better than the other.

                Depends on how this guy Hennigan is going to shape Orlando. Afflalo really isn't useful if they're going to be in long term rebuild mode. However, he's a proven stable glue type guy. Every rebuild needs one of those, so I can see why Orlando went with Aaron.

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                • Bull_Market
                  Pro
                  • Jul 2012
                  • 618

                  #4343
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                  Originally posted by Altimus
                  And for Orlando it is worthless...
                  I get you dont like the deal, but why you insist on dismissing facts to cement your stance?
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                  • Altimus
                    Chelsea, Assemble!
                    • Nov 2004
                    • 27283

                    #4344
                    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                    Dismissing what facts?

                    That teams used their exceptions? Most of them winning teams? LAL, Brooklyn, Dallas, etc. Or that each team that used an exception is in a way better shape than Orlando?

                    Orlando is looking to save money at this point. Not waste money. With a TPE you're taking a huge contract on without getting rid of space. All I'm saying it's not a wow, Orlando got a TPE. What a great deal. IMO they won't use it. They don't have the assets to trade for an all-star so are they going to use on it average players?

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #4345
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                      Gerald Wallace to Brooklyn
                      The Bogut for Monte Ellis trade

                      ...

                      The list goes on
                      You sure about that Gerald Wallace part?

                      TPEs are only good if you're going to get at least good quality in return or quantity in return.
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                      • Bull_Market
                        Pro
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 618

                        #4346
                        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                        Originally posted by Altimus
                        Dismissing what facts?

                        That teams used their exceptions? Most of them winning teams? LAL, Brooklyn, Dallas, etc. Or that each team that used an exception is in a way better shape than Orlando?

                        Orlando is looking to save money at this point. Not waste money. With a TPE you're taking a huge contract on without getting rid of space. All I'm saying it's not a wow, Orlando got a TPE. What a great deal. IMO they won't use it. They don't have the assets to trade for an all-star so are they going to use on it average players?
                        Brooklyn is a winning team? Didnt see them in the playoffs last season. But I digress. It doesnt matter if the team is good or not, having the TPE at your disposal is valuable.

                        You first said it was ”useless”, met with factual evidence of teams that used the TPE, you back peddled, only to throw in its useless for Orlando.
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                        • Drewski
                          Basketball Reasons
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 3783

                          #4347
                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          You sure about that Gerald Wallace part?

                          TPEs are only good if you're going to get at least good quality in return or quantity in return.
                          And draft picks are only good if you draft good players.

                          Opportunity is there to be used. It's whats done with it. Lakers got KILLED for dumping Odom for TPE.

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                          • Altimus
                            Chelsea, Assemble!
                            • Nov 2004
                            • 27283

                            #4348
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                            Originally posted by Bull_Market
                            Brooklyn is a winning team? Didnt see them in the playoffs last season. But I digress. It doesnt matter if the team is good or not, having the TPE at your disposal is valuable.

                            You first said it was ”useless”, met with factual evidence of teams that used the TPE, you back peddled, only to throw in its useless for Orlando.
                            Never back peddled, I said mostly useless and still think so. They were used more this off-season which I missed.

                            Still don't think Orlando will use theirs.

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                            • DieHardYankee26
                              BING BONG
                              • Feb 2008
                              • 10178

                              #4349
                              Originally posted by Bull_Market
                              Brooklyn is a winning team? Didnt see them in the playoffs last season. But I digress. It doesnt matter if the team is good or not, having the TPE at your disposal is valuable.

                              You first said it was ”useless”, met with factual evidence of teams that used the TPE, you back peddled, only to throw in its useless for Orlando.
                              Brooklyn had a building piece, Deron. The Magic just traded theirs. Unless they can get one back with the TPE, it is more or less useless to take back that much salary with no franchise player to add it to. All of the teams who were given as examples were teams with good players. The Magic's best player is Aaron Aflalo. They are in a different situation.
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                              • Kashanova
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 12695

                                #4350
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                                Wow. So the Magic think that being a horrible team with late first round picks and no center is better than being a decent team with 4 mid-to lotto picks and a decent center. lol

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