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  • tehova
    b**-r*y
    • Mar 2003
    • 3694

    #4846
    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    Oh, and tehova, were you the one who was telling me Kevin Durant was just a taller Kevin Martin back in the day? I lol'd when I heard this trade, that convo was the first thing I thought of. Funny how they're teammates now.

    Luckily the league stopped that rip move "foul call". Both of them FEASTED on that. I just saw a stat that Kevin Martin's free throw attempts have been cut in half since then.

    Kevin Martin still kills the Griz, so i HATE THIS TRADE. I know it will lead to many nights of me cursing on here
    Ericmaynor3.com

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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #4847
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

      Originally posted by stlpimpmonsta
      Unless you are 30 why the hell would you take less money? Harden hasnt made his money yet.
      Trust me, I usually agree with this logic. But honestly, 54 million and 60 million, I guess to be able to get paid 13.5 over four years instead of 15.. and to compete for rings.. to me that's not really taking a "pay cut". It irked me to read people saying that James should "take a pay cut" to stay with the Thunder. That's rubbish. 54 million was more than a fair deal.

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      • 23
        yellow
        • Sep 2002
        • 66469

        #4848
        Originally posted by tehova
        I think he was just put under the gun because he was last (which he had no control over obviously), everybody else got paid he sat and watched them get their money. When its time to feed me, lets not start talking about being conservative after ya'll had buffet. You can sign for less money to play in "OKC" yet they can trade you the same way they just did even tho you did the right thing for the team. Get your money first, then let them figure the rest out, trade me wherever with my max dollars
        Had he not laid an egg in the finals maybe that 6 mill would've been understandable from the buffet table

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        • gator3guy
          MVP
          • Jul 2004
          • 2233

          #4849
          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

          Originally posted by Fiasco West
          Nah, Lamb wasn't key if the later pre-season games were any indication and Livingston was playing mins behind Martin. Most already cut him our of the rotation.

          Also no way would the Rockets give up Jones and Lamb, Jones has been the best rookie out of the bunch and likely will be starting before the season is over.
          I don't think White or Jones would have gotten in the way of getting James Harden. Jones has been good but its still preseason. Royce has his anxiety so I know why OKC wouldn't want him. If you believe the speculation, they got all those picks this year to make a run at Dwight.

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          • ggsimmonds
            Hall Of Fame
            • Jan 2009
            • 11235

            #4850
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

            NBA GMs are the worst in any sport. James Harden is not a max contract player (well he shouldn't be) and is not the type of player to build around or be the centerpiece of an organization. Houston seems to think he is worth a max contract plus two first round draft picks though. Houston also hasn't been a contender in around 15 years. This is not a coincidence.

            They can change the CBA all they want; it will not make up for the stupidity of general managers though.

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            • tehova
              b**-r*y
              • Mar 2003
              • 3694

              #4851
              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

              Originally posted by 23
              Had he not laid an egg in the finals maybe that 6 mill would've been understandable from the buffet table

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              Sounds like everybody wins, they dont have to pay someone to disappear and he doesnt have to take less money.
              Ericmaynor3.com

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              • Nukleopatra
                Banned
                • Oct 2009
                • 381

                #4852
                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                Originally posted by tehova
                they dont have to pay someone to disappear .
                That depends - do they plan on keeping Kevin Martin?

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                • phenom1990
                  MVP
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 4789

                  #4853
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                  Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                  NBA GMs are the worst in any sport. James Harden is not a max contract player (well he shouldn't be) and is not the type of player to build around or be the centerpiece of an organization. Houston seems to think he is worth a max contract plus two first round draft picks though. Houston also hasn't been a contender in around 15 years. This is not a coincidence.

                  They can change the CBA all they want; it will not make up for the stupidity of general managers though.
                  Hockey general managers sign guys to 12 and 15 year contracts and then want the CBA to limit contract length...
                  "Ma'am I don't make the rules up. I just think them up and write em down". - Cartman

                  2013 and 2015 OS NFL Pick'em Champ...somehow I won 2 in 3 years.

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                  • 23
                    yellow
                    • Sep 2002
                    • 66469

                    #4854
                    Originally posted by tehova
                    Sounds like everybody wins, they dont have to pay someone to disappear and he doesnt have to take less money.
                    Except he's stuck on a loser team now for that extra 6 mil

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                    • ggsimmonds
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 11235

                      #4855
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                      Originally posted by phenom1990
                      Hockey general managers sign guys to 12 and 15 year contracts and then want the CBA to limit contract length...
                      In my defense I don't follow hockey at all. Maybe I was just a tad bit guilty of using hyperbole there :wink:

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                      • Blue
                        On the road again
                        • Jul 2012
                        • 838

                        #4856
                        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                        Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                        NBA GMs are the worst in any sport. James Harden is not a max contract player (well he shouldn't be) and is not the type of player to build around or be the centerpiece of an organization. Houston seems to think he is worth a max contract plus two first round draft picks though. Houston also hasn't been a contender in around 15 years. This is not a coincidence.

                        They can change the CBA all they want; it will not make up for the stupidity of general managers though.
                        I don't think Houston is planning to make him the centerpiece after this season. They are always looking for the star, after the long summer of going after Dwight and then Bynum, seeing both fail probably changed their minds on how to do it. They will be sending an offer to Dwight when he tests free agency they probably believe that with Harden on the roster, they have a better chance for him to pick Houston over LA. I think this will probably not work but its better than what they had before this trade. It's really risky, but the Rockets have taken a lot of risks this offseason so I'm not surprised.
                        Native Georgian. Adopted Texan.

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                        • phenom1990
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 4789

                          #4857
                          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                          Originally posted by ggsimmonds
                          In my defense I don't follow hockey at all. Maybe I was just a tad bit guilty of using hyperbole there :wink:
                          I have a very limited knowledge of the NHL post 2004. In my limited knowledge, I thought they had a good CBA outside of not limiting contract lengths. But it doesn't change the fact of how stupid I think 12 year contracts are.
                          "Ma'am I don't make the rules up. I just think them up and write em down". - Cartman

                          2013 and 2015 OS NFL Pick'em Champ...somehow I won 2 in 3 years.

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                          • Fiasco West
                            MVP
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 2820

                            #4858
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                            Originally posted by gator3guy
                            I don't think White or Jones would have gotten in the way of getting James Harden. Jones has been good but its still preseason. Royce has his anxiety so I know why OKC wouldn't want him. If you believe the speculation, they got all those picks this year to make a run at Dwight.
                            I think Jones would have, he's going to be a rotation player if not a starter this year. Perhaps that's why the Rockets threw in the picks as well. Dunno. I think the Rockets were prepared to let a good chunk of the rookies go for Dwight, but they basically swapped their starting SG for James Harden. I doubt that Lamb was going to get minutes here after watching the preseason, the Rockets usually send Rookies down unless they prove they can play right now.

                            I'm only worried about the Picks though. Harden could turn out to be a player like Joe Johnson who is really just taking up capspace but eh...The Rockets needed to take a risk eventually.

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                            • tehova
                              b**-r*y
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 3694

                              #4859
                              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                              Originally posted by 23
                              Except he's stuck on a loser team now for that extra 6 mil

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                              You can always be traded to a loser team, thats EXACTLY why you should get the maximum amount of money you can get.
                              Ericmaynor3.com

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                              • Macroh
                                Rookie
                                • Jul 2012
                                • 57

                                #4860
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                                Daryl Morey: “James is the foundational, franchise type player we have been seeking the past few seasons.”
                                Interesting..

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