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  • ScoobySnax
    #faceuary2014
    • Mar 2009
    • 7624

    #1291
    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

    The Raptors have pulled their qualifying offer to Jerryd Bayless.

    Bayless will become an unrestricted free agent.

    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap...#ixzz1zs9Y4nIH
    ...........
    Originally posted by J. Cole
    Fool me one time that's shame on you. Fool me twice can't put the blame on you. Fool me three times, **** the peace sign, load the chopper let it rain on you.
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    • ex carrabba fan
      I'll thank him for you
      • Oct 2004
      • 32744

      #1292
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

      I'd consider two firsts and two second rounders pretty good for a 38 year old who will most likely only survive for 1 or 2 more years max... considering the alternate result, which would be nothing at all.

      As for a Howard/Bynum swap, you gotta have a lot of issues if anyone were to think LA "doesn't want" Bynum. That's a tough angle to sell, especially if you think he's one of 5 centers that are even worth anything.

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      • FloydNDLAL
        Banned
        • Jun 2012
        • 281

        #1293
        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        I'd consider two firsts and two second rounders pretty good for a 38 year old who will most likely only survive for 1 or 2 more years max... considering the alternate result, which would be nothing at all.

        As for a Howard/Bynum swap, you gotta have a lot of issues if anyone were to think LA "doesn't want" Bynum. That's a tough angle to sell, especially if you think he's one of 5 centers that are even worth anything.
        If Bynum can't step up his Pick and Roll Defense then what good is he to us? Just lose again to OKC or the Spurs.

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        • ex carrabba fan
          I'll thank him for you
          • Oct 2004
          • 32744

          #1294
          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

          Originally posted by FloydNDLAL
          If Bynum can't step up his Pick and Roll Defense then what good is he to us? Just lose again to OKC or the Spurs.
          Uh, that's completely unrelated to my post.

          But I agree, the move for Nash doesn't really put them on paper, on OKC's level. Have to wait and see how Kobe plays with the rest of the team. Drew has showed so much immaturity and it's to the point where he's made his bed so to speak. However that doesn't mean LA simply "doesn't want him". That's silly talk.

          Undoubtedly a healthy Dwight is better than Bynum and also a better fit.

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #1295
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

            Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
            I'd consider two firsts and two second rounders pretty good for a 38 year old who will most likely only survive for 1 or 2 more years max... considering the alternate result, which would be nothing at all.

            As for a Howard/Bynum swap, you gotta have a lot of issues if anyone were to think LA "doesn't want" Bynum. That's a tough angle to sell, especially if you think he's one of 5 centers that are even worth anything.
            Considering im talking fans and bandwagon fans and how quickly and eager they seem to want to get rid of him for Dwight I think im spot on

            You got your little trade for trash this year , now go be content

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            • BlastX21
              MVP
              • Jul 2010
              • 2118

              #1296
              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

              What exactly would be the hypothetical trade for Howard? Bynum and a role player(s) or Bynum and picks?

              edit: referring to lakers
              Originally posted by Kaiser Wilhelm
              there should not be ties occurring in the NFL except when neither team wins the game.

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              • ex carrabba fan
                I'll thank him for you
                • Oct 2004
                • 32744

                #1297
                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                Originally posted by 23
                Considering im talking fans and bandwagon fans and how quickly and eager they seem to want to get rid of him for Dwight I think im spot on

                You got your little trade for trash this year , now go be content
                As I said, PHX actually did good for themselves by getting four draft picks. They weren't going to compete with LA anyway for the next few years, and Nash only has a few years left in the tank.

                Getting four picks is certainly better than getting nothing, and even better it's from a team in your division.

                As for your point about being content, that's fair. However what's not fair is you trying to somehow justify that Orlando would only be getting what LA "doesn't want" in Andrew Bynum. That's a stretch and silly to say. Drew is a top center in the league and Orlando would be smart to consider him as an option along with a few other packages from other teams.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #1298
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                  Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN
                  Ray Allen left Miami without accepting Heat offer, sources say he is torn on whether to leave Celtics:
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • Chrisksaint
                    $$$
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 19127

                    #1299
                    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                    Have a feeling if he left Miami without signing/agreeing that he'll return to Boston
                    Saints, LSU, Seminoles, Pelicans, Marlins, Lightning

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #1300
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      Brian Windhorst ‏@WindhorstESPN
                      Ray Allen left Miami without accepting Heat offer, sources say he is torn on whether to leave Celtics:
                      Come on Ray, don't pull a Nash.

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                      • 23
                        yellow
                        • Sep 2002
                        • 66469

                        #1301
                        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                        As I said, PHX actually did good for themselves by getting four draft picks. They weren't going to compete with LA anyway for the next few years, and Nash only has a few years left in the tank.

                        Getting four picks is certainly better than getting nothing, and even better it's from a team in your division.

                        As for your point about being content, that's fair. However what's not fair is you trying to somehow justify that Orlando would only be getting what LA "doesn't want" in Andrew Bynum. That's a stretch and silly to say. Drew is a top center in the league and Orlando would be smart to consider him as an option along with a few other packages from other teams.

                        Unless you have the selective reading gene, I said the fans, not the team, but im done with it, I said what I said

                        ...and please those 1st round picks are trash, and on top of that we all know PHX aint trying to build a team, especially when Sarver has been dismantling the team ever since he got there.

                        The cheap wad has done nothing but trade players for picks, low picks and cash and it didnt matter who the player was.

                        Evrybody knows that

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                        • Drewski
                          Basketball Reasons
                          • Jun 2011
                          • 3783

                          #1302
                          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                          I'd consider two firsts and two second rounders pretty good for a 38 year old who will most likely only survive for 1 or 2 more years max... considering the alternate result, which would be nothing at all.

                          As for a Howard/Bynum swap, you gotta have a lot of issues if anyone were to think LA "doesn't want" Bynum. That's a tough angle to sell, especially if you think he's one of 5 centers that are even worth anything.
                          Not to mention 2015 the Lakers have no one on the books besides Steve Nash. Who knows what shape the team will be in at that point, not a bad pick up for Phoenix. Phoenix did pretty damn good not taking on any salary and getting 4 draft picks. But if that's a trash trade considering the Suns were losing Nash to free agency then so be it.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #1303
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                            Originally posted by 23
                            Unless you have the selective reading gene, I said the fans, not the team, but im done with it, I said what I said

                            ...and please those 1st round picks are trash, and on top of that we all know PHX aint trying to build a team, especially when Sarver has been dismantling the team ever since he got there.

                            The cheap wad has done nothing but trade players for picks, low picks and cash and it didnt matter who the player was.

                            Evrybody knows that
                            They're trash? 4 picks is worse than nothing at all? Right.

                            Fans will be content if Dwight doesn't come. They're just showing their greed as usual but let's not pretend like fans don't want Andrew Bynum. That's silly talk.

                            Suns management has always been sketch but your logic of "OMG those 1st rounders are trash" is lacking.

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                            • 23
                              yellow
                              • Sep 2002
                              • 66469

                              #1304
                              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                              They're trash? 4 picks is worse than nothing at all? Right.

                              Fans will be content if Dwight doesn't come. They're just showing their greed as usual but let's not pretend like fans don't want Andrew Bynum. That's silly talk.

                              Suns management has always been sketch but your logic of "OMG those 1st rounders are trash" is lacking.
                              You cant be content and greedy at the same time.. oxymoron much, and I see that you love to select read so Ill go ahead and ignore you on that

                              Yep the picks are trash... low 1st rounders, most likley to turn into nothing, and PHX is hardly trying to rebuild, they could've traded Nash last season if they really wanted "something" and now that he's gone they wont be doing anything... Lets not ignore the history here, dont play that game.

                              .. also there are no OMG posts, dude stop being over dramatic

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                              • ex carrabba fan
                                I'll thank him for you
                                • Oct 2004
                                • 32744

                                #1305
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (Updates 1st PG)

                                Yes, you can be greedy at one point, then content at another. It's not a hard concept to follow.

                                The circumstances all point to fans showing their greed (for now) in wanting a trade for Dwight. Those circumstances include Drew showing consistent immaturity and obviously Steve Nash coming to town, where Dwight is a better fit than Drew. There are only a few other teams that can offer Orlando better packages than LA can. It makes sense for fans to clamor for a move.

                                With all that said, in no way does that mean LA fans don't want Drew.

                                Once the dust settles and Dwight is still in Orlando and Drew is still here, they will be just fine with him. These are the same fans who constantly point to Drew's "post game" being much more polished than Dwight's. These are the same fans that stretch any point they can to prove that Drew is as good as Dwight is.

                                As far as Nash again, well obviously he should have been traded earlier for more parts and assets. That goes without saying. I have no idea what game you're referring to. What they came up with now is a lot better than getting zero in return, low draft picks or not.

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