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  • RockinDaMike
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    • Feb 2003
    • 9092

    #2656
    Originally posted by TheMatrix31
    Scola is a flopping bitch, but he's also a very good locker room presence, fundamentally sound, and has a connection with Dragic. That's good move. Just don't flop.
    I hate it too. He's gonna flop regardless Matrix but as much as I hate his flopping,, I like everything else.

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    • Boltman
      L.A. to S.D. to HI
      • Mar 2004
      • 18283

      #2657
      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

      That would be three solid, good players on the Suns. Well... 3 guys who's game I like, Dragic, Gortat & now Scola.

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      • wwharton
        *ll St*r
        • Aug 2002
        • 26949

        #2658
        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

        Originally posted by Weeks
        Jason Kidd arrested for drunk driving

        http://www.insidehoops.com/blog/?p=10522
        This guy really doesn't get enough grief for the piece of work he is.

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        • IlliniM1ke
          Heroes Never Die
          • Feb 2003
          • 8082

          #2659
          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

          Originally posted by Boltman
          That would be three solid, good players on the Suns. Well... 3 guys who's game I like, Dragic, Gortat & now Scola.
          Some nice pieces but while they'll be competitive I don't see them being good enough to go to the WCF and they won't be bad enough to land an elite player to put them over the hump unless they luck out with someone falling to them in the draft.
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          • RocketTMac1
            MVP
            • Sep 2006
            • 1864

            #2660
            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

            I PHX gets Mayo with Beasley man oh man talk about fun times lol

            The Buzz is Back in the Queen City. Cho........I have no idea what you are going to do in this draft man.

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            • RockinDaMike
              All Star
              • Feb 2003
              • 9092

              #2661
              Originally posted by CardsFan27
              Some nice pieces but while they'll be competitive I don't see them being good enough to go to the WCF and they won't be bad enough to land an elite player to put them over the hump unless they luck out with someone falling to them in the draft.
              Suns have 8 picks in the next two years. They can do some damage with that

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              • TheMatrix31
                RF
                • Jul 2002
                • 52927

                #2662
                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                Originally posted by CardsFan27
                Some nice pieces but while they'll be competitive I don't see them being good enough to go to the WCF and they won't be bad enough to land an elite player to put them over the hump unless they luck out with someone falling to them in the draft.
                I hate the "well, if you can't contend then you should just suck" mentality. It's horrible.

                NBA fans are under this ridiculous notion that you can just throw a star team together and contend immediately, and if you can't, then you might as well be in the bottom 5 of the league. Well guess what, outside of the top 5 and the bottom 5, there are a bunch of teams that occupy those remaining spots.

                There is something to be said about making smart moves to stay relevant. To grow chemistry. To gain experience. You think losers like Michael Beasley and OJ Mayo would respond well to bottoming out? No. How are idiots like THOSE guys going to learn ANYTHING about maturity if we're drowning at the bottom? How do you figure a guy like Kendall Marshall or Markeiff Morris will grow as players if we're down there? Getting guys like Scola, or Michael Redd, or whoever HELP the team regardless. They help the team grow. They help players grow up.

                Not to mention that even though the team may not "have a superstar", that doesn't mean that A) players don't want to play there (because the Suns ALWAYS draw free agents, including Eric Gordon this year, who'd obviously be a Sun if he werent an RFA) and B) that the team can't accumulate assets for trades in the future, when a situation comes up where a star player needs to get dumped, etc.

                Jordan's Bulls didn't say "oh, screw it, we're not contending and we cant beat these Pistons and Celtics, let's just blow it all up". The Warriors didn't say "oh damn, we're up against the Mavericks who won 60-whatever games this year, we're gonna get rocked." The Sixers didn't say "Number 8 seed? Holy hell, whens our tee time?"

                There are like three contenders per year, so saying that if you're not one of them you just need to suck and pin your hopes on a draft pick is insane.

                This is the NBA2kificiation of things. The OKC/Miami/whatever BS mentality that's gripped the league and suffocated all the fun and common sense out of the league. The league I used to love.

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                • fluent2332
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                  • Aug 2005
                  • 1735

                  #2663
                  Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                  Wow, forgot the Suns picked up Beasley. If they get Mayo...

                  A lineup of

                  Dragic
                  Mayo
                  Beasley
                  Scola
                  Gortat

                  Is that the best offensive 5 in the NBA right now? I think so. That's going to be an exciting team to watch.

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                  • ehh
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 28962

                    #2664
                    Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                    ^ No, not even close.
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                    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                      • Dec 2006
                      • 17294

                      #2665
                      Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                      Originally posted by fluent2332
                      Wow, forgot the Suns picked up Beasley. If they get Mayo...

                      A lineup of

                      Dragic
                      Mayo
                      Beasley
                      Scola
                      Gortat

                      Is that the best offensive 5 in the NBA right now? I think so. That's going to be an exciting team to watch.


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                      • ex carrabba fan
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                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #2666
                        Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                        Originally posted by wwharton
                        This guy really doesn't get enough grief for the piece of work he is.
                        You're correct sir, some guys just get the pass for whatever reason... it's interesting...
                        Originally posted by RockinDaMike
                        Suns have 8 picks in the next two years. They can do some damage with that

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                        Yep, as much as it was lame for Sarver to trade Nash to LA, those picks are going to really help them, if not the actual picks, what they can get for them in a package...
                        Originally posted by fluent2332
                        Wow, forgot the Suns picked up Beasley. If they get Mayo...

                        A lineup of

                        Dragic
                        Mayo
                        Beasley
                        Scola
                        Gortat

                        Is that the best offensive 5 in the NBA right now? I think so. That's going to be an exciting team to watch.
                        That would be an awesome team considering where they were last year... and they could still add a lot to that core immediately.

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                        • TheMatrix31
                          RF
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 52927

                          #2667
                          Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                          Originally posted by wwharton
                          This guy really doesn't get enough grief for the piece of work he is.
                          He's a complete piece of crap.

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                          • SteelersFreak
                            All Star
                            • May 2004
                            • 9582

                            #2668
                            Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                            Originally posted by ehh
                            ^ No, not even close.
                            I would say it's closer than you think. Those are 5 legit offensive players, most teams have 3 starters that are solid offensive guys like that at most.

                            Now they won't be playing any defense...
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                            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                              • Dec 2006
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                              #2669
                              Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                              Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                              I would say it's closer than you think. Those are 5 legit offensive players, most teams have 3 starters that are solid offensive guys like that at most.

                              Now they won't be playing any defense...
                              Gortat isn't a legit offensive player. He makes Dwight Howard look like he has the most versatile offensive game since The Dream. Literally all he can do is pick and roll.

                              Mayo and Beasley are solid scorers, but we're talking about two guys that came off the bench the past few years (at least it's seemed that way). Same can be said about Dragic, except he's more of a solid all-around guy rather than just a scorer, but he was also very inconsistent.
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                              • ehh
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Mar 2003
                                • 28962

                                #2670
                                Re: NBA Movement Central 2012 (All Transactions 1st Page)

                                Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                                I would say it's closer than you think. Those are 5 legit offensive players, most teams have 3 starters that are solid offensive guys like that at most.

                                Now they won't be playing any defense...
                                I don't think that'd even be a Top 10 offensive unit. Not a single elite scorer or star. Put Mayo and Beasley in a lineup and I'm not counting on great chemistry and ball movement either.
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