Lol there are years when Ron Artest didn't even MAKE the playoffs. That has never happened to Melo. But let's cherry pick stats to prove the importance of defense when Ron Artest in his prime was a 20 PPG scorer. He doesn't even fit this argument. His defense was obviously top flight, but he certainly was not a defensive specialist in the mold of a Tony Allen. Awful example.
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Re: Players That Are Paid For Playing Defense
He was Defensive Player of the year for a reason. What good is making the playoffs when you don't do anything. Making it out of the 1st round once? Cool story bro. Point blank period Carmelo contributes almost nothing outside of being a volume scorer. The least he could do is play defence or something else of value (rebounding but that's pretty much mandatory). His offensive value (which is overrated) is severely diminished by his fleeting lack of defensive value.Comment
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Re: Players That Are Paid For Playing Defense
Ron Artest will most likely go down as one of the best defensive players to play his position and probably one of the best of all time. And this is prime, mid 00s Ron Artest I'm speaking of.His defense was obviously top flight, but he certainly was not a defensive specialist in the mold of a Tony Allen. Awful example
To say that he is "not a defensive specialist in the mold of Tony Allen" is a slap in the face to Artest.#RespectTheCultureComment
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Re: Players That Are Paid For Playing Defense
I think you're misunderstanding what he is saying there. He's actually complementing Artest, saying that not only was he a great defensive player, like Allen is, but that he was so much than that. A very good all around player and not just a defensive specialist.Jordan Mychal Lemos
@crypticjordan
Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.
Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.Comment
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I wasn't talking about Red's post. I was speaking of the one before his. I agreed with everything RS said in his post.#RespectTheCultureComment
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Jordan Mychal Lemos
@crypticjordan
Do this today: Instead of $%*#!@& on a game you're not going to play or movie you're not going to watch, say something good about a piece of media you're excited about.
Do the same thing tomorrow. And the next. Now do it forever.Comment
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Sure fooled me because the way I read that post, it didn't sound like he was complimenting him, unless he meant to quote someone else. I read Red's post before that and that sounded like he was complimenting Artest.#RespectTheCultureComment
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Bottomline, Ron Artest was getting paid and made his name on his defense. While he was a capable offensive player in his prime he was a better defender than he was offensive player and that's the biggest reason Ron was getting broke off.Comment
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Actually, Artest was a legit MVP candidate before he decided to go after a fan. He was a great defender, great scorer, and great rebounder and passer for his position. He was about as close to Scottie Pippen as we've seen (unless you count Lebron). He was far more than a "capable" offensive player in his prime.
I think the correct, short and sweet response was "he doesn't belong in this discussion".Comment
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