Eyes or Stats: How Do You Determine How Good A Player Is?

[NINJAK2]

Re: Eyes or Stats: How Do You Determine How Good A Player Is?

"Numbers don't tell the whole story, but they also don't lie."

That's partly true Professa but most of the time when we watch someone play we aren't judging how good he is based strictly on stats. Stats are used more as a support system to help back or debate an opinion. Stats are only accumulated after that act is performed on the floor which is where we first get the opportunity to judge them. Watching them gives us more insight to maybe why someone performs how they do in the stat sheet. How good are his teammates? What kind of offense are they running? What kind of defense is the opponent playing against them? What's his demeanor/body language like? Chemistry with teammates?

I remember that Cavs/Bos playoff game before LBJ bolted for MIA. If you were to just look at that stat sheet LBJ wasn't bad at all. To anyone watching that game though you could see that LBJ wasn't mentally there or at his best imo. No doubt stats like FT%/ FG%/3FG% can tell you how good someone shoots in those areas but there are always subtle things that you can only discover by watching that stats can't always get across. Great thread.

[Hassan Darkside]

Well yeah if a player is battling an injury or just coming back from a serious injury, then that will also play a role in that player's minutes. Otherwise, I'd say that's the best way to see why a player is only playing a certain amount of minutes unless you're going to watch said player every single second/moment he's out there, which most people won't do.

For those that use 70% or higher eyes, which stats do you use because they're(Eyes)are only going to tell you so much.

There's more factors than that. Fatigue, whether or not a player's in shape, whether they hustle or they're lazy, IQ, etc. Using something just like fpg doesn't explain bench player minutes either.

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[ross6655]

Re: Eyes or Stats: How Do You Determine How Good A Player Is?

I honestly think using your 'eyes' to determine stats can be very deceiving. Stats are the more accurate way to go, but I like to judge a player on what I see. That way, you see what type of an impact they make, and so forth. For instance, intangibles, leadership, and wit can't be measured by statistics.

[dramachild11]

Re: Eyes or Stats: How Do You Determine How Good A Player Is?

I honestly think it depends on what kind of fan you are (casual or a student)... A casual fan can't see the importance of plays that don't end up on the stat sheet like hustling for loose balls or stopping a fast break by getting back on D, which is usually why they regurgitate numbers at you to justify their own opinion but when talking about all-star or all-time players there is usually very little that separates them when it comes to numbers (unless your talking mvp's and championships)... So the difference between say a Reggie miller an a Tracy mcgrady in their primes usually comes down to what you saw with your own two eyes

[biggiejerseys]

Both. But more eye test than stats.

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