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    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #2446
    Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

    Yeah but they were basically looking for a reason to out him at this point

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    • Caveman24
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      • Jul 2011
      • 1352

      #2447
      Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

      I made it http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2044414654
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      • CMH
        Making you famous
        • Oct 2002
        • 26203

        #2448
        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        What makes Brian Shaw such a good Coach other than being associated with Phil while he was coaching in LA? Serious question BTW
        Whoa, never said Brian Shaw was good. Only said I would rather have him try than Mike Brown.


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        "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

        "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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        • CMH
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          • Oct 2002
          • 26203

          #2449
          Originally posted by WTF
          Basically just talking about how he felt it was unfair, and that the new PG was injured, the offense was still in limbo, learning the system. He didn't have a fair crack. He was just spot on, on everything that they were asking him about. I enjoyed listening to him.
          So Antonio Davis is ignoring Brown's performance last year? It sounds like he's ignoring his performance last year.


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          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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          • ProfessaPackMan
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            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #2450
            Originally posted by CMH
            Whoa, never said Brian Shaw was good. Only said I would rather have him try than Mike Brown.


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            Nah, it was a question general, lol. I've heard people throw his name out there in regards to Coaching Vacancies do I've just been curious as to where all the praise/hype for him has come from.
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            • CMH
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              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #2451
              I think it has to do with him being a beloved Laker player and more importantly having learned from Phil Jackson.

              Also if Shaw failed, I personally think more people would just say it didn't work. He learned from the best and just isn't the best. They would move on and question the hiring much less than the Brown hiring.


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              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #2452
                Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

                Actually what I mean CMH.
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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #2453
                  Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

                  but he can't get a head coaching job anywhere

                  but his name is thrown around by fans like free liquor

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                  • CMH
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                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #2454
                    Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

                    Originally posted by 23
                    but he can't get a head coaching job anywhere

                    but his name is thrown around by fans like free liquor
                    Hey, there's a guy in Chicago that had a similar problem. (I know I'm reaching hard here to compare him to that, but it's true. It did happen).

                    I think it's obvious GMs aren't necessarily very good at recognizing coaching talent.

                    And I'm not saying I am either because I think recognizing coaching talent is probably one of the hardest things to do in professional sports. There are far too many intangibles that actually matter in coaching than in actually playing the game.

                    You sometimes get these guys that are strategic brainiacs as assistants or in interviews (ie Eric Musselman) and for other reasons, it doesn't translate to success.

                    Then you might get the complete opposite of that guy that's the innovative, free-spirited player's coach and they can't make the proper adjustments to succeed.

                    But you can also name guys that have succeeded under those parameters. You just never know until you know.

                    I do know that Mike Brown is a bum.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • CMH
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                      • Oct 2002
                      • 26203

                      #2455
                      Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

                      Originally posted by jeebs9
                      Actually what I mean CMH.
                      I basically stole your comment that was already made.
                      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                      "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                      • ProfessaPackMan
                        Bamma
                        • Mar 2008
                        • 63852

                        #2456
                        Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

                        Hey, there's a guy in Chicago that had a similar problem. (I know I'm reaching hard here to compare him to that, but it's true. It did happen).
                        Thibs went thru the same deal Shaw is/has been dealing with?
                        #RespectTheCulture

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                        • CMH
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                          • Oct 2002
                          • 26203

                          #2457
                          Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

                          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                          Thibs went thru the same deal Shaw is/has been dealing with?
                          He went through years of being mentioned as a head coach candidate and was never given a job.

                          I remember him being regarded as an assistant that could be a good head coach as far back as 2003 or 2004. But maybe that's because I'm a Knicks fan and they liked the idea of bringing him back.
                          "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                          "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                          • 23
                            yellow
                            • Sep 2002
                            • 66469

                            #2458
                            Originally posted by CMH
                            He went through years of being mentioned as a head coach candidate and was never given a job.

                            I remember him being regarded as an assistant that could be a good head coach as far back as 2003 or 2004. But maybe that's because I'm a Knicks fan and they liked the idea of bringing him back.
                            He was jvg and doc rivers defensive guru

                            What the heck had Shaw done at all

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                            • JODYE
                              JB4MVP
                              • May 2012
                              • 4834

                              #2459
                              Re: 10/30 - 11/7 Games Discussion Thread.

                              Originally posted by 23
                              He was jvg and doc rivers defensive guru

                              What the heck had Shaw done at all

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                              Only studied the triangle offense under one of the innovators of the scheme, and one of the greatest coaches of all time.

                              Just like Thibs, I think Shaw definitely deserves a shot. You'll never know what he can really do until he gets his opportunity. Did anyone firmly believe Thibs would transcend the Bulls to 60 win status in one season? I know I sure didn't.

                              Plus at the time, Shaw had earned great respect in that locker room. At least enough to be given a chance.
                              Last edited by JODYE; 11-09-2012, 04:42 PM.
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                              • 23
                                yellow
                                • Sep 2002
                                • 66469

                                #2460
                                Thibs affected more than one lockerroom

                                He also was the main defensive reason Boston won

                                Not just another assistant

                                Shaw is no different than any other assistant out there

                                Its not like was Tex winters...shoot Jim Clemons deserves a shot before him if that's the case

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