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  • Adampa1006
    Rookie
    • Jul 2012
    • 134

    #31
    Originally posted by InthePaint
    jumpshot kobe
    Yes you are right. His mid range is better. Look at their career 3pt% though. You will be surprised to see that they are almost equal. People argue LeBron has no outside game and just trucks the lane and gets fouled but his 3pt shooting is the same as Kobe's.

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    • ballsohard
      Pro
      • Jan 2012
      • 640

      #32
      Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

      LeBron is the better overall player. Kobe is more clutch.

      If I had one game to win or one shot to make, I'm taking Kobe.

      If I could have either of them from the beginning of their career until the end, I'm taking LeBron.

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #33
        It's not called "opening the floor for your teammates" when you don't pass them the ball.

        It obvious Kobe has often times shot to the detriment of his team, hell even coaching/management in LA knows this. Have they ever went out and got a good PG? No they build the team with rebounders..

        Nothin wrong with it, I'm just saying Kobe isn't being a playmaker when he's taking all those shots. Even a hardcore Lakers fan could tell you that.

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        • StankonYa
          Pro
          • Sep 2006
          • 908

          #34
          Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

          In my honest opinion.....




          what I truly believe.....




          I think the media and the (NBA as a whole) keeps us talking about these type of things. Which is there (the NBA's)ultimate goal, to push there stars while at the same time promote there product.

          Genius!!!

          As for this topic ... on whether Lebron is better than Kobe, Lebron,Kobe better than M.J.... M.J better than Magic.... Magic better than Bird......

          Well Blahh is better than Blahh, of course!!!!!!!!!! If we look into the Blahh you are sure to Blahh that Blahh is Blahh, Bla'Bla'Blahh.
          Last edited by StankonYa; 11-12-2012, 03:11 AM.

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #35
            Originally posted by killerx2
            is it too much to ask for a thread about this without a bunch of haters, of course it is.
            i'm gonna compare kobe in his prime to lebron now... could also be his prime or beginning of his prime. kobe has the better basketball IQ. dont say he shoots too much, that opens the floor for his team, check your facts.going to be interesting this year that he probably wont have to do that with howard and nash. he has a more competitive drive than lebron thats is only just below jordans.
            i'm gonna say their equally mature since lebron has improved a lot since the decision.
            lebron is the better athlete but not by much, young kobes dunks are second to jordan. just look up best kobe dunks.
            lebron is the better overall player, defense, offense, rebounding, post up, assists.lebron is the player you want in a rebuilding process, kobe is a player you want in an established team like the lakers would be without him.
            now wilt vs mj is the real question, so many stupid haters i love to fact check.
            This whole post makes little to no sense..

            Kobe's dunks are second to Jordan? I hope you're kidding. I could probably name 10 to 15 dunkers I'd put ahead of Kobe.. But why does that matter? How does dunking make you a good player lol?? Also, how can you judge athleticism solely on dunking? Please explain Mr. Fact Check?

            And why does people opinions that LeBron is better than Kobe, or the other way around make us all a bunch of "haters".. From what I've read there hasn't been much bashing of either player in this thread.

            Also Wilt vs. MJ? Where did that come from? This is a LeBron and Kobe thread.
            Last edited by ojandpizza; 11-12-2012, 03:13 AM.

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            • Kashanova
              Hall Of Fame
              • Aug 2003
              • 12695

              #36
              Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

              Originally posted by AlexBrady
              Lets break down their respective games as much as possible. Comparing Kobe's apex to LeBron's current peak on a 10 point most scale.

              LeBron
              Strength-10
              Speed-9
              Quickness-9
              Left hand-10
              Elevation-10
              Creativity-10
              Anticipation-9
              Man to man defense-7
              Team defense-9
              Passing-9
              Rebounding-9
              Post up-8
              Field goal shooting-7
              Finishing-10
              Handle-9
              Free throws-7
              Clutch performance-8
              Average-8.82

              Kobe
              Strength-8
              Speed-9
              Quickness-9
              Left hand-7
              Elevation-9
              Creativity-10
              Anticipation-9
              Man to man defense-9
              Team defense-7
              Passing-7
              Rebounding-9
              Post up-8
              Field goal shooting-8
              Finishing-9
              Handle-8
              Free throws-8
              Clutch performace-10
              Average-8.47
              I only disagree with two of the points here, Man to man defense I'd say Kobe is hugely overrated. Also the field goal shooting is another one. Lebron's %s trump kobe's numbers.

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              • InthePaint
                Banned
                • Nov 2012
                • 707

                #37
                Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                Kobe developed his Postup game a while ago while LeBron is just now getting it down.
                Kobe has a reliable turn around for a minute as well as upand unders.

                I give the edge to Kobe.

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                • ProfessaPackMan
                  Bamma
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 63852

                  #38
                  Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                  Mods, ya'll are slacking right now.
                  #RespectTheCulture

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                  • Fresh Tendrils
                    Strike Hard and Fade Away
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 36131

                    #39
                    Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                    Pack, it's a yearly debate.

                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...rime-kobe.html

                    http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2041117573



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                    • DukeC
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2011
                      • 5751

                      #40
                      Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                      Originally posted by Kashanova
                      I only disagree with two of the points here, Man to man defense I'd say Kobe is hugely overrated. Also the field goal shooting is another one. Lebron's %s trump kobe's numbers.
                      I'd argue Lebron only started to incorporate the mid range into his game his last year in Cleveland and beyond. Before that he was a "Drive, Drive, Drive, and shoot the occasional 3 pointer" type of player.

                      I don't mean to say he wasn't effective at doing it, because he was, but he wasn't a jumpshooter.

                      Of course it also depends on the interpretation of what AB posted. So, you could very well be right though. I just thought I'd point out the above.

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                      • Kashanova
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 12695

                        #41
                        Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                        Originally posted by DukeC
                        I'd argue Lebron only started to incorporate the mid range into his game his last year in Cleveland and beyond. Before that he was a "Drive, Drive, Drive, and shoot the occasional 3 pointer" type of player.

                        I don't mean to say he wasn't effective at doing it, because he was, but he wasn't a jumpshooter.

                        Of course it also depends on the interpretation of what AB posted. So, you could very well be right though. I just thought I'd point out the above.
                        that's the thing AB doesn't specify if Field Goal shooting is mid-range or what. As far I can tell it could mean anything as far as Field Goals go, or it could mean shot selection. If wasn't tied down to mid range shooting and since it wasn't I'd have to take Lebron. I mean this is like his 4th year in a row shooting over 50% something Kobe has never done for a season.

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                        • jeebs9
                          Fear is the Unknown
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 47568

                          #42
                          Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                          But I will say even though LeBron has put in the mid range game. He still shoots a very high percentage. I kind of wish Kobe would take a page out of LeBron/Wade's book from last year. And ban 3 pointers for a little while. I'd love to see him "22 feet and in" type of thing. He probably would shoot a high percentage.
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                          • slimm44
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2005
                            • 3253

                            #43
                            Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                            Over the past 4 seasons from mid-range (16-23FT):

                            Kobe 789 for 1943 = 40.6%
                            Lebron 666 for 1632 = 40.8%

                            Not sure how you could say that either one has a definitively better mid-range jumper than the other.
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                            • Kashanova
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 12695

                              #44
                              Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                              Originally posted by jeebs9
                              But I will say even though LeBron has put in the mid range game. He still shoots a very high percentage. I kind of wish Kobe would take a page out of LeBron/Wade's book from last year. And ban 3 pointers for a little while. I'd love to see him "22 feet and in" type of thing. He probably would shoot a high percentage.
                              Kobe's confidence is a gift and a curse, He feels he can make any shot. His shot selection will always dip his FG%

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                              • AlexBrady
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 3341

                                #45
                                Re: Kobe Vs. Lebron

                                Originally posted by Kashanova
                                that's the thing AB doesn't specify if Field Goal shooting is mid-range or what. As far I can tell it could mean anything as far as Field Goals go, or it could mean shot selection. If wasn't tied down to mid range shooting and since it wasn't I'd have to take Lebron. I mean this is like his 4th year in a row shooting over 50% something Kobe has never done for a season.
                                Field Goal shooting=perimeter shooting.

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