Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

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  • AlexBrady
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 3341

    #16
    Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

    Originally posted by kingkilla56
    Asking Dwight Howard to get a jumpshot is a little absurd. How many centers have a jumpshot?
    Howard was taking and making ten foot jumpers in the early part of the 2011 season. Why didn't he continue to work on this skill?

    How many centers have a jump shot? Well, Hakeem Olajuwon, David Robinson, Dave Cowens, Jerry Lucas, Willis Reed, Zelmo Beaty, Patrick Ewing, Bob Lanier, and many more.

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    • The 24th Letter
      ERA
      • Oct 2007
      • 39373

      #17
      I think Amare will flourish with a PG who can run a P&R successfully in Felton...as long as his jumper and finishing ability haven't fallen off too much, he'll be fine.

      Not sold on his defense though...that's my real question...I can't name many 4's that are worse defensively than this guy...

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      • kingkilla56
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2009
        • 19395

        #18
        Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

        How many of these guys play today?

        Anyway, I still have no reservations about Stat coming back. The team is bigger than one guy.
        Last edited by kingkilla56; 12-21-2012, 08:04 PM.
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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #19
          Originally posted by kingkilla56
          How many of these guys play today?

          Anyway, I still have no reservations about Stat coming back. The team is bigger than one guy.
          None of those guys play today.. There is a sever lack of good big men in today's game

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          • The 24th Letter
            ERA
            • Oct 2007
            • 39373

            #20
            Originally posted by kingkilla56
            How many of these guys play today?

            Anyway, I still have no reservations about Stat coming back. The team is bigger than one guy.
            Defense? The majority of the guys are serviceable at least...Amare is in the "liability" range...

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            • InthePaint
              Banned
              • Nov 2012
              • 707

              #21
              Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

              The real question is if a healthy STAT will hurt the three pointer + Melo regular season ISO ball.

              If i was Woodson id like to have the problem of trying to maximize Stat within Woodsons derivative Mike D'Antoni offense.

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              • AlexBrady
                MVP
                • Jul 2008
                • 3341

                #22
                Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                Originally posted by kingkilla56
                Shouldnt Howard be the one grabbing double teams in the post and Gasol knocking down shots?
                Howard's post up moves are crude and predictable and he can only make the easiest of out passes.

                Originally posted by bigeastbumrush
                You're basing it off of last year. Ok.

                Different coach, different role, different responsibilities. All of which none of us have seen because Amare hasn't even practiced with the team as yet.

                Since when does a player has to do all of those things to win a championship because you say so? Can they make the playoffs first...lol.

                Melo's really gotta work on that snaking I tell ya. That will definitely take his game to the next level.
                The good teams field defenses that load up against one on one players and can easily anticipate where the ball will wind up. The counter to these defenses is to be in constant motion.

                Snaking back and forth off a matched pair of baseline screens is a totally viable (and winning) strategy. Reggie Miller made a career out of it.

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                • InthePaint
                  Banned
                  • Nov 2012
                  • 707

                  #23
                  Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                  Originally posted by AlexBrady
                  Howard's post up moves are crude and predictable and he can only make the easiest of out passes.



                  The good teams field defenses that load up against one on one players and can easily anticipate where the ball will wind up. The counter to these defenses is to be in constant motion.

                  Snaking back and forth off a matched pair of baseline screens is a totally viable (and winning) strategy. Reggie Miller made a career out of it.
                  Ril Smits was the inside balance.

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                  • kingkilla56
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 19395

                    #24
                    Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                    Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                    Defense? The majority of the guys are serviceable at least...Amare is in the "liability" range...
                    Uh what? What in that quote did I say anything about defense. Even if Amare is the worst defender of all time he will not hurt this team for long aka he will be sat. And even then I think people will be shocked at the effort he gives.

                    He's played his whole career for Mike Dantoni. Nuff said.
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                    • cavsfan2
                      MVP
                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3902

                      #25
                      Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                      Its on amare. If he comes back with the same defensive intensity as melo and everyone else on the knicks (I doubt it) then he will help. If, on the other hand, he continues to not give a crap about defense then he is a detriment.
                      I would like to see amare get a shot though, he and Felton had sone awesome chemistry 2 years ago

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                      • The 24th Letter
                        ERA
                        • Oct 2007
                        • 39373

                        #26
                        Originally posted by kingkilla56
                        Uh what? What in that quote did I say anything about defense. Even if Amare is the worst defender of all time he will not hurt this team for long aka he will be sat. And even then I think people will be shocked at the effort he gives.

                        He's played his whole career for Mike Dantoni. Nuff said.
                        You made a non quoted post under mine, so I assumed you were referring to what I said....and just to make sure you were referring to my post...I put a question mark after defense, lol

                        But yeah, Well definitely see if he buys in though..

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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #27
                          Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                          He could be great if he comes off the bench.

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                          • dramachild11
                            Pro
                            • Oct 2007
                            • 888

                            #28
                            Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                            I think shumpert coming back healthy is what will benefit amare & the Knicks in the long term... Shumperts return should push Kidd to the bench which means they'll have a four deep bench of stat, smith, Kidd, and Novak... 3 shooters around stat sounds pretty good to me.. My guess though is that they'll struggle for 10 or 20 games before finding a real comfort level

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                            • ehh
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 28962

                              #29
                              Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                              Everyone debates the offensive side of things for some reason. Please, he'll be a great addition now that he has three PG's that can PnR with him.

                              His defense and rebounding is what scares the **** out of me. More likely than not he'll kill us on that end of the floor, as he always has.
                              "You make your name in the regular season, and your fame in the postseason." - Clyde Frazier

                              "Beware of geeks bearing formulas." - Warren Buffet

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                              • lhslancers
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2011
                                • 3589

                                #30
                                Re: Will the knicks be better with stoudemire?

                                Anthony shouldn't be playing any more than 30 or so minutes if he's gonna have anything left for the playoffs. Amare should be used to front a second team coming off the bench maybe he can get the Knicks 15 points. Maybe but I wouldn't try to put Anthony and him on the court at the same time.

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