12/31 - 1/6 Game Discussion Thread

[Vni]

Re: 12/31 - 1/6 Game Discussion Thread

I guess that game goes into the 'If kobe scores 30 or more Lakers loose' list aswell right?

Legit statistic.

[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 12/31 - 1/6 Game Discussion Thread

I believe it's 35 or more points. And I believe it's 0-9 now... lol.

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Why I don't see the Clippers being a true championship contender, is when it's playoff time and the game slows down, outside of a Chris Paul pick and roll, they have no offense. They will not beat the Thunder or Spurs 4x with that malarkey.

Jamal Crawford disagrees. He wasn't there tonight and is a big part of the offense. Its always isos but its usually him kicking things off that turns into team ball

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[23]

That was the play they drew up on a time out? Good thing Paul has a mid-range game.

Vinny
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[Vni]

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I ain't getting fooled though. That game was a 2 points game with 2' to go but it's only because the clippers basically thought it was some sort of all star game against a D league team and stopped playing.

I wish lakers wouldda got embarassed terribly so D'Antoni is even more exposed.

Anyway doesn't matter who the coach is, it's like everyone is injured now or coming back from injury. This team is done.

[buickbeast]

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Phil Jackson must be laughing his *** off with his new fiance.

[Kashanova]

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Lost to the bulls with out D Rose... At Home! Horrible.... Again Mario Chalmers shows why he's terrible.


Luckily Kobe shot a lot and lost again.

If not I'd be in a worst mood lol

[Vni]

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He had 9 shots at half time. Then when the Lakers where down 19 he realised he was surrounded by scrubs and started to make everything. Got the game a 2 points game with two to go. CP3 killed the game and Kobe chucked some hopeless shots. Kobe is the only thing that kept this game from beeing a blow out.

But yeah we'll just say that Kobe shot too much and cost the Lakers the win, if that makes you feel better.

[DonWuan]

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so mad i missed this game.

stay at computer=watch 20 games

get on big comfy sofa with 60inch=watch 1 game and dose off lol

Loved the Chi vs Mia game.

[TajDeni]

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i used to get really annoyed with pau and at times i still do, but after how he played in the olympics ive had a change in pov. he's a victim of poor coaching in regards to his talent.

the lakers are screwed because they are trying so hard to please dwight, when i my opinion we should be posting pau up more as far as str8t post ups. because once pau gets the ball on the block he basically becomes another point guard. he can score and progress the offense from the post.

dwight is only looking to score from the post. which would be ok, if he actually had real back to the basket skills. from a str8t post up perspective, we should post up pau or kobe more rather than dwight.
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somehow i ended up seeing some old nash/amare highlights, everybody always gives nash the credit and he deserves alot butand the thing that truly made it special was that amare could roll or pop. the lakers dont have that at all.

dwight can only roll, there's no option to pop. once he gets back to being healthy again, even though you lose some athletic force on the roll. i think the lakers offense would flow better if gasol was involved in the pick n roll with nash more.
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lets be honest at this point, someone is potentially getting traded because its not working and d'antoni will scream he doesnt have the players to run his system. what if the lakers traded pau and dwight left in the offseason. im of the opinion that dwight is leaving for houston; big city, lax media market (in ny, philly or LA dirk would be getting destroyed for becoming a fat slob after he won the chip). dwight can make up that extra yr in salary from the boost he would gain from the yao ming/jeremy lin asia market.

now i may be the only person in the world who thinks this...but if i was the lakers id consider trading dwight. i think the team would flourish alot more in d'antoni's system if gasol was the feature big man.

it would be a super bold move, but imo this is the type of super bold move that dr. buss used to pull of in the past that always seemed to pay off.

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i think dwight has been exposed as not being a true franchise player. in orlando, he was a big fish in a small pond. so the thought was always the players around dwight are not good enough for dwight to take them to the next level. so the blame was always pointed at his teammates instead of him.

but in L.A. he is just another big fish in the ocean. in L.A. kobe gets all the blame. and this shift in spotlight i think has exposed dwight as not really being a true franchise player in the highest sense of the word. dwight howard is pau gasol in memphis.

this isnt based off of 1 game, having the oppertunity to really see him and his game up close in personal now, this is my current running opinion of him. even if you have a dwight on your team, you still need a kobe or a lebron to get you over the top.

thats why once shaq faded and when he was healthy, i always thought yao ming was more of a franchise center than dwight. seeing him up this closely has only re-enforced my opinion.

[Vni]

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You overrate Pau Gasol's abilities in the post.



He shots 30.8% from there. I understand that the closer to the basket the better he is and will be, but it's not gona make a world of difference. Pau is either playing through injury or is done for some reason. He looks so weak on his legs. Yesterday he posted up Griffin, Griffin has bumped him and he was pushed 2 feets away. He has lost all his athleticism and legs. Another proof is that he has shot the ball pretty poorly since 2 games.

Look thoses 2 shot charts:

2011 - 2012



2012 - 2013



I personnaly am getting sick of the Pau Gasol's drama. He just isn't as good as he used to be for whatever reason and people should stop making excuses for him. Kobe doesn't make excuses. Dwight doesn't make excuses. Steve doesn't make excuses. Yes he needs more touches down low, but he also has to man up a little bit, or be benched the time he recovers from his knees injury or whatever other injuries he has because he just isn't performing at a high level right now wether it is defense or offense.

Talent is overrated. Right now it's about the hustle. Hill isn't as talented as Gasol but right now I'd take him over Gasol to start games. Because Hill hustles. He's hungry for rebounds, he has legs, he make the other team works inside.

[LionsFanNJ]

In hindsight I'm glad Dwightmare is over for the Nets and we kept Brook (who is younger) and all the picks. Of all the Nets players he's playing the most consistent with his awkward *** post game. But it works for 20 a night so I can't complain.

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[Nathan_OS]

Lost to the bulls with out D Rose... At Home! Horrible.... Again Mario Chalmers shows why he's terrible.


Luckily Kobe shot a lot and lost again.

If not I'd be in a worst mood lol

Or the Bulls showed you why we're not a team to be messed with..

[Kashanova]

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He had 9 shots at half time. Then when the Lakers where down 19 he realised he was surrounded by scrubs and started to make everything. Got the game a 2 points game with two to go. CP3 killed the game and Kobe chucked some hopeless shots. Kobe is the only thing that kept this game from beeing a blow out.

But yeah we'll just say that Kobe shot too much and cost the Lakers the win, if that makes you feel better.

I never said they lost cause of Kobe. It just so happens to be that they lose every time he shoots or scores over a certain amount. Besides, I had no idea Nash(more mvps than kobe) Howard(multiple time all star) and Gasol(multiple time all star) were scrubs... Blowout or not. It's a lost.

Or the Bulls showed you why we're not a team to be messed with..

They've shown me that a few times but that always changes come playoff time. So I'm not discouraged. I am however discouraged at Chalmers progression, or lack there of I should say.

[Vni]

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I never said they lost cause of Kobe. It just so happens to be that they lose every time he shoots or scores over a certain amount

You really believe that kind of gimicky stat? It's just a stat that looks good, that everyone understands, sells paper and makes for entertaining TV debate.

Yesterday Kobe has put up one of his top 20 best performances ever. When him and Nash where on a the bench the clippers went on a 15 - 0 run. How about you start watching the games instead of just hating on Kobe? What's the point?

How many times Kobe makes a great play for the team and see the guy throw up a brick? It happens 10 times per games.

The guy scored 38 points on 60% shooting while playing 43 minutes and guarding Chris Paul when everyone else minus Nash and dwight wheren't hitting anything. Yeah he has definately hurt the team. Ridiculous.