Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

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  • wwharton
    *ll St*r
    • Aug 2002
    • 26949

    #31
    Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    I meant "give Jordan credit" in terms of him making a play that really, even someone like him will rarely make. I wasn't saying you didn't give him credit.

    Again, Knight wasn't wrong in what he did. It's only that Jordan made an unbelievable play to convert the basket. Knight should not get any sort of criticism for trying to deflect the pass or impede Jordan. You make that play 10/10 times because as I said, most of the time, Jordan doesn't convert the bucket, he gets fouled and he's forced to make a pair of free throws. Something he never does.
    Not sure what part of any of this is an argument against any of my last post... first or second paragraph.

    Summary of said post:

    1. Part of what made the dunk amazing was it being a tough play bc of the defender no matter the size.

    2. I like that Knight tried to make a play and was being overly technical (and said as much initially and in the last post) about it being the only play he could make.

    What are you arguing?

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    • NbaLiveNba2k
      Rookie
      • Jun 2012
      • 54

      #32
      Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

      Originally posted by BlueNGold
      If we're going to talk "best lobbed dunks ever", I'm pretty sure the discussion begins and ends with this:

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      I'm from Toronto and have watched Vince Carter all my life, but I think this dunk was better than any of Vince's IN THE NBA. not including jumping over frederic weis during the olympics. Vince Carter is the best in game dunker, but i this dunk was the best of all time

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29806

        #33
        I could probably throw 5 Vince Carter dunks ahead of this one to be honest

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        • VDusen04
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2003
          • 13025

          #34
          Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          I could probably throw 5 Vince Carter dunks ahead of this one to be honest
          I concur. I was trying to think of a tactful way to say that. I'd actually likely prefer much more than five Carter dunks to this DeAndre slam.

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          • pietasterp
            All Star
            • Feb 2004
            • 6244

            #35
            Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

            Originally posted by mb625
            Speaking honestly here, I don't get all the "Brandon Knight was stupid for getting in the way" stuff. That's called playing defense. He did the only thing he could do in that situation to even have a shot at preventing that dunk, getting in the way of Jordan. I actually really liked the play Knight made. Not too many people in the NBA would be willing to do something like that
            Originally posted by wwharton
            1. I give Jordan props which is why I give this dunk a lot of credit no matter how big the guy in front of him was.

            2. Knight made the play he should make, hoping Jordan misses. That's not the same as "He did the only thing he could do in that situation to even have" which is what I was responding to... and pre-warned that my response was being technical. It ended up being the wrong play BECAUSE he made the dunk, but (like the post I quoted) I like that he tried anyway. I also agree with the other poster that most good defenders have been posterized. Gotta try even if you're wrong sometimes.

            I agree with you guys 100%. Never give up a free dunk. I get what wwharton is saying about being 'extra-technical', although that's basically like saying if Brandon Knight could look into the future and know DJ was gonna make that dunk, he should've steered clear...

            Anyway, it will be a sad day when guys are running out of the way of potential monster dunks because they don't wanna get posterized. Never give up that freebie.

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            • Eman5805
              MVP
              • Mar 2009
              • 3545

              #36
              Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

              The kids they showed in that TNT highlight could definetly say it was the best dunk of all time, because they were still in their dad's sack when Vince Carter was Man/Amazing. Whatever.

              In the greater scheme, it's just blown up because it's LA. It's Lob City. It's Clippers. I'd think the dunk was significant if it was on Tyson Chandler or some great shot blocker who was about DeAndre's size, sure. But that? Please.

              A solid 7 out of 10. Great, but not so amazing. Hell, most of the attention is directed at Brandon Knight than anyone else. Though that seems standard dunked on fare.

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              • wwharton
                *ll St*r
                • Aug 2002
                • 26949

                #37
                Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                Originally posted by pietasterp
                I agree with you guys 100%. Never give up a free dunk. I get what wwharton is saying about being 'extra-technical', although that's basically like saying if Brandon Knight could look into the future and know DJ was gonna make that dunk, he should've steered clear...

                Anyway, it will be a sad day when guys are running out of the way of potential monster dunks because they don't wanna get posterized. Never give up that freebie.
                Guys run out of the way all the time, lol!

                If I were to be more serious about my previous comment though, jumping was the problem with Knight's decision. I'm not one for undercutting people but considering where Jordan jumped from, I would've tried to plant outside of the "charge" area and held my ground. Psychologically it would've been harder for Jordan to be comfortable with trying to dunk from that range... realistically he probably woud've ended up undercut. Again, that's being very technical though. As someone said earlier, I think Knight jumped before really realizing Jordan was in position to try to dunk. At that point he was already in the air and didn't have much of a choice in how to respond.

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                • Sundown
                  MVP
                  • Oct 2010
                  • 3270

                  #38
                  Not even close to number 1.

                  Not even number 1 this season. I'll take Barnes over Pekovic to Jordan over a tiny Brandon Knight that happened to get in the way.

                  Nice dunk though, but small guys over big guys >>> the other way around.

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                  • d11king
                    MVP
                    • Feb 2011
                    • 2716

                    #39
                    Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                    Originally posted by JerzeyReign
                    That was a top posterizing dunks of all time.

                    Some off the top of my head:

                    Jordan baseline on Ewing
                    KJ over Akeem
                    Wade on Varejo
                    Wade on Perkins
                    Blake Griffin on Perkins
                    BG on Gasol
                    Starks baseline drive against Chicago
                    Vince Carter over Alonzo Mourning
                    Pippen's dunk on Ewing
                    The Kemp dunk when he starts pointing at the dude on the ground
                    Vince Carter jumping over dude in the Olympics
                    Vince Carter jumping over Tim Duncan
                    Wilkins dunking over Bird
                    Kobe on Yao

                    There are probably some other dunks out there but when you put Jordan's dunk up against some of the best... its up there. The power of the dunk makes it special.
                    Whoa I remember that Wade/Varejao dunk.. I gotta YouTube that. I remember Varejao had his feelings hurt hahah he tried retaliated the next play or time down haha

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                    • ex carrabba fan
                      I'll thank him for you
                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #40
                      Originally posted by wwharton
                      I see what you're getting at, but to be extra technical, he did not do the only thing to prevent the dunk... bc he didn't prevent the dunk. In short, ignoring the theatrics and posterization, he gave up two points and a trip to the foul line so whatever he was trying to do didn't work. In that sense, it would've made more sense to get out of the way. I'm not mad at him for trying to do something to prevent it, but in this case he should've gotten out of the way bc he had no choice but to foul and couldn't prevent the shot from going in (two things he probably could've assessed before jumping).
                      Youre clearly saying Knight should have conceded the lob dunk and got out of the way.

                      Knight did the right thing by trying to break up the play and certainly should not have gotten out of the way.

                      Sent from my LG-MS910 using Tapatalk 2

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                      • d11king
                        MVP
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 2716

                        #41
                        Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

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                        I'm surprised no one's mentioned VC on Mourning.. That was honestly one of my favorite dunks of all-time. The behind the back, up to the bump/contact, that little "push back" in the air, and still to viciously throw it down with such power, I mean look at how Mourning just falls back hahaha.. I'm not going to rank this but I will enjoy it

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                        • ojandpizza
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29806

                          #42
                          I like dunks like the VC over Mourning one you just posted.

                          I'm always more impressed by a guy who just takes it hard to rack and dunks over somebody.

                          It's much easier to catch an oop or get a tip-slam over someone, especially when they don't realize it's coming, than it is to take it hard at a guy waiting to block your shot and just rising over him..

                          I'm sure there are some people in here who can dunk or used to could dunk. What are your opinions? For me personally 9 times out of 10 a guy waiting to block me alters my "dunk" into a lay-up.. Where as on rebounds and lobs its easier because they have to react, and often times it isn't quick enough because I'm already in the air.

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                          • XenoZograscope
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2005
                            • 3202

                            #43
                            Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

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                            idc what you think man, only god can jude me.

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                            • LingeringRegime
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Jun 2007
                              • 17089

                              #44
                              Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                              This gets my vote for Dunk of the year.

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                              • d11king
                                MVP
                                • Feb 2011
                                • 2716

                                #45
                                Re: Where does Deandre Jordan's dunk rank all time?

                                Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                                This gets my vote for Dunk of the year.

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                                Would've been nicer had Dwight actually challenged haha. But he's got some bunnies... I must've missed this game, wtf.

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