Kawhi Leonard developing into a scoring Rodman?

[KG]

Re: Kawhi Leonard developing into a scoring Rodman?

I say his ceiling is Gerald Wallace. He has the same type of defensive instinct and scrappy just like him. I can't agree with Marion because of that ridiculous form on his jumpshot. I cant say Rodman because he was a in a different echelon of rebounding. I cant really agree with Iggy either because Iggy is a good passer and I dont think offensively Leonard would become a passer.

It's not about Marion's form, it's about the characteristics their games share.

Both are good rebounders for the SF position
Both can score w/o plays being run for them
Both are solid defenders
etc...

Gerald Wallace isn't too bad although I see Wallace as a broke Marion and I think Kahwai's offensive game already surpasses Crash's.

I'm just mad my Wiz took Vesely over him.

[ClutchCity]

Re: Kawhi Leonard developing into a scoring Rodman?

It's not about Marion's form, it's about the characteristics their games share.

Both are good rebounders for the SF position
Both can score w/o plays being run for them
Both are solid defenders
etc...

Gerald Wallace isn't too bad although I see Wallace as a broke Marion and I think Kahwai's offensive game already surpasses Crash's.

I'm just mad my Wiz took Vesely over him.

Yea I know what your saying, but Crash around the time he was leaving Charlotte was better than Leonard now. It may not seem like it, but he was a go to guy in Charlottes offense a few years ago. I beleive Leonard can become what Wallace was in Charlotte. He played a great series, but hes not s guy to depend on scoring wise every night. He got most of his points scrapping for boards and off of drive and kick plays. Same thing Wallace basically is.

[J_Posse]

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Yea I know what your saying, but Crash around the time he was leaving Charlotte was better than Leonard now. It may not seem like it, but he was a go to guy in Charlottes offense a few years ago. I beleive Leonard can become what Wallace was in Charlotte. He played a great series, but hes not s guy to depend on scoring wise every night. He got most of his points scrapping for boards and off of drive and kick plays. Same thing Wallace basically is.

Nah, the kid's offensive game is way more advanced than either Crash or Marion, IMO. He can already go and get his own, but that wasn't his role this season (you saw it in certain games like against Chicago). I think Pop will make it more of a priority to get Kawhi the ball more and he'll average anywhere from 15-18 ppg next season.

Did Crash or Marion ever have these moves in their prime?

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[SteelersFreak]

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Nah, the kid's offensive game is way more advanced than either Crash or Marion, IMO. He can already go and get his own, but that wasn't his role this season (you saw it in certain games like against Chicago). I think Pop will make it more of a priority to get Kawhi the ball more and he'll average anywhere from 15-18 ppg next season.

Did Crash or Marion ever have these moves in their prime?

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Do you not remember Shawn Marion when he played for the Suns?

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Sidenote: the Suns should really go back to those jerseys

[ClutchCity]

Re: Kawhi Leonard developing into a scoring Rodman?

Nah, the kid's offensive game is way more advanced than either Crash or Marion, IMO. He can already go and get his own, but that wasn't his role this season (you saw it in certain games like against Chicago). I think Pop will make it more of a priority to get Kawhi the ball more and he'll average anywhere from 15-18 ppg next season.

Did Crash or Marion ever have these moves in their prime?

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Well you are a SA guy, so you've probably watched him all season long, including his rookie season. I just think his hustle and tenacity on defense reminds me of Wallace. A guy that can go up and get you some extra boards on the offensive end. Wallace could create his own shot in his prime. He was an all star. I think Leonard is getting much more credit than he deserves. Cmon even putting him in a comparison to Rodman is ridiculous lol. Im still iffy on Shawn Marion for some reason. I dont know but I think his ceiling as a player is Crash.

[JerseySuave4]

Re: Kawhi Leonard developing into a scoring Rodman?

Nah, the kid's offensive game is way more advanced than either Crash or Marion, IMO. He can already go and get his own, but that wasn't his role this season (you saw it in certain games like against Chicago). I think Pop will make it more of a priority to get Kawhi the ball more and he'll average anywhere from 15-18 ppg next season.

Did Crash or Marion ever have these moves in their prime?

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Nothing in that video made me say WOW except that last play was pretty nice. 2 of the highlights were him getting fouled and missing the shot. But all of those plays were just him making pretty simple moves and making tough shots with guys on him.

[JasonWilliams55]

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With some work Kawhi could be a "poor mans" Pippen.

Solid body, strength, hustle, rebounding, decent mid, decent 3 ball, good defense.

[The 24th Letter]

Only part of Kawhis game im not sure about is taking people off the dribble...he attacked a lot in the Finals but it was off the catch...

[ex carrabba fan]

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Only part of Kawhis game im not sure about is taking people off the dribble...he attacked a lot in the Finals but it was off the catch...

And that's exactly what leaves me with a question mark on his potential as a franchise player.

Imagine teams keying in on him defensively, when he's the primary scorer. I don't think he's built for that type of role but we'll see.

[The 24th Letter]

And that's exactly what leaves me with a question mark on his potential as a franchise player.

Imagine teams keying in on him defensively, when he's the primary scorer. I don't think he's built for that type of role but we'll see.

Yeah, I couldn't really tell you honestly...it's not like he gets much of a chance to iso in Pops system...

It was encouraging to see the go to him in the post though...he honestly reminds me a lot of Paul George...and right now, his dribbling isn't his strong suit...

[702]

I believe Kawhis ceiling is that of Paul George right now.. 20, 8 and 5. Some steals and blocks as well.

I feel (from both pro and college) that he has the potential to create a bit. I don't know if traditionally off the dribble against elite defenders consistently but on the break, off the catch, I could see him doing damage. I know its silly to translate this but I remember in college he displayed a pretty solid handle and good vision. His handle is better than he gets credit for. He's been (rightly) brought along in a pretty confined role thus far, think he can show a lot more than he has once he's given more freedom.

On a side note I'm still shocked at how quickly he improved his shot after bring drafted.

[Moses Shuttlesworth]

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Is it just me is there a theme of players being compared to other players of past generations ironically by the way they look?

Kawhi's face resembles Rodman's
Jeff Green resembles James Worthy

[Bawstun]

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Is it just me is there a theme of players being compared to other players of past generations ironically by the way they look?

Kawhi's face resembles Rodman's
Jeff Green resembles James Worthy

Funny how you say that, not only his face, but some of his dunks remind you of James Worthy too.

[turty11]

Re: Kawhi Leonard developing into a scoring Rodman?

I dont know but I think his ceiling as a player is Crash.

thats rediculous, hes every bit as good a defender rebounder and possibly shot creator for himself as wallace is/was.

and i cant ever remember wallace being a consistent/good 3pt shooter, especially these past few seasons.

leonard has more potential in his left arm than wallace (yea im being drastic here but so what, kawhi is one of my favorites)

[BearClaw]

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His ceiling with any other team would be wear he is right now. With the Spurs he could quietly rise to be one of the best in the league. Am I a tad biased? Yeah, but the world got to see what the kid could do for 3 straight months, and you'd be hard pressed to think of a basketball skill set that he doesn't have or one that is impossible for him to develop.