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  • WTF
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    • Aug 2002
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    #61
    Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

    No, now I have to disagree. Lebron is showing his love for the game, and actually getting into the fact that the Cavaliers are a winning team. He is showing his emotion, which gets the crowd, and his team behind him. There is nothing wrong with that at all. Yeah, Carmelo smiles... a lot.

    But there is nothing by any means wrong with Lebron showing enthusiasm. The coach's, analysts, fans love to see a kid getting into the game.

    And when something bothers you, it gets on your nerves, not gets on your nervous.
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    • Programmed2Kill
      Banned
      • Jul 2002
      • 14644

      #62
      Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

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      Makaveli071 said:
      Another thing iv noticed in a change about LeBron, is that now all of the sudden his team is actually winning, he is starting to be cocky, a smug factor you would say. When he does something right, he has to dance or curse, about telling his defender to get off of him. Just shut your mouth &amp; get down the court, and play defense. 'Melo has this whole smiling all the time thing that kind of gets on my nervous, but its good for his game. If 'bron wants to be considered the R.O.Y, he needs to stop being cocky, the R.O.Y voters frown upon that. (sorry, just something i had to get off my chest)

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      See, you just messed up. You were doing ok until your <font color="green">LeBronitus</font> reared its ugly head once again.


      Leave him alone for once. Your rant has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

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      • Programmed2Kill
        Banned
        • Jul 2002
        • 14644

        #63
        Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

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        Makaveli071 said:
        Another thing iv noticed in a change about LeBron, is that now all of the sudden his team is actually winning, he is starting to be cocky, a smug factor you would say. When he does something right, he has to dance or curse, about telling his defender to get off of him. Just shut your mouth &amp; get down the court, and play defense. 'Melo has this whole smiling all the time thing that kind of gets on my nervous, but its good for his game. If 'bron wants to be considered the R.O.Y, he needs to stop being cocky, the R.O.Y voters frown upon that. (sorry, just something i had to get off my chest)

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        See, you just messed up. You were doing ok until your <font color="green">LeBronitus</font> reared its ugly head once again.


        Leave him alone for once. Your rant has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

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        • Programmed2Kill
          Banned
          • Jul 2002
          • 14644

          #64
          Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

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          Makaveli071 said:
          Another thing iv noticed in a change about LeBron, is that now all of the sudden his team is actually winning, he is starting to be cocky, a smug factor you would say. When he does something right, he has to dance or curse, about telling his defender to get off of him. Just shut your mouth &amp; get down the court, and play defense. 'Melo has this whole smiling all the time thing that kind of gets on my nervous, but its good for his game. If 'bron wants to be considered the R.O.Y, he needs to stop being cocky, the R.O.Y voters frown upon that. (sorry, just something i had to get off my chest)

          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


          See, you just messed up. You were doing ok until your <font color="green">LeBronitus</font> reared its ugly head once again.


          Leave him alone for once. Your rant has nothing to do with anything in this thread.

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          • Programmed2Kill
            Banned
            • Jul 2002
            • 14644

            #65
            Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

            And also this Carmelo-Pierce comparison needs to cease.

            BigMike put up the percentages and per game stats. Didn't tell the whole story. In Pierces second year, he played in 73 games, only like 6 games more than Carmelo at this point and damn near had 100 more 3 point attempts by now. And since then, Pierce has attempted over 300 three-point shots each season and in 2000-2001 season over 500 attempts. And in Pierce's rookie year (which was the lockout season), in 47 games, Pierce attempted 204 three-point shots. He was heading for almost 400 there.

            Carmelo right now in 67 games has 177 three-point attempts. NOWHERE near Paul Pierce-like.


            In Pierce's career, he is averaging 4.9 three-point attempts per game, while Carmelo so far is averaging 2.6 three-point attempts per game.


            I don't see how they compare.

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            • Programmed2Kill
              Banned
              • Jul 2002
              • 14644

              #66
              Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

              And also this Carmelo-Pierce comparison needs to cease.

              BigMike put up the percentages and per game stats. Didn't tell the whole story. In Pierces second year, he played in 73 games, only like 6 games more than Carmelo at this point and damn near had 100 more 3 point attempts by now. And since then, Pierce has attempted over 300 three-point shots each season and in 2000-2001 season over 500 attempts. And in Pierce's rookie year (which was the lockout season), in 47 games, Pierce attempted 204 three-point shots. He was heading for almost 400 there.

              Carmelo right now in 67 games has 177 three-point attempts. NOWHERE near Paul Pierce-like.


              In Pierce's career, he is averaging 4.9 three-point attempts per game, while Carmelo so far is averaging 2.6 three-point attempts per game.


              I don't see how they compare.

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              • Programmed2Kill
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 14644

                #67
                Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

                And also this Carmelo-Pierce comparison needs to cease.

                BigMike put up the percentages and per game stats. Didn't tell the whole story. In Pierces second year, he played in 73 games, only like 6 games more than Carmelo at this point and damn near had 100 more 3 point attempts by now. And since then, Pierce has attempted over 300 three-point shots each season and in 2000-2001 season over 500 attempts. And in Pierce's rookie year (which was the lockout season), in 47 games, Pierce attempted 204 three-point shots. He was heading for almost 400 there.

                Carmelo right now in 67 games has 177 three-point attempts. NOWHERE near Paul Pierce-like.


                In Pierce's career, he is averaging 4.9 three-point attempts per game, while Carmelo so far is averaging 2.6 three-point attempts per game.


                I don't see how they compare.

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                • Tha_Kid
                  All Star
                  • Oct 2002
                  • 6550

                  #68
                  Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

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                  HMcCoy said:
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                  BigMike said:
                  NEway, whoever said Lebron isnt known for being a spectacular dunker I respect your opinion but ..... I do agree that lebron's court vision has been hyped but theres a reason he no longer plays point, and thats because hes a great finisher (read: dunker)


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                  If your talking LeBron, please know what you are talking ABOUT.

                  P2K was absolutely right. LeBron rarely dunks unless its a fastbreak or breakaway. If the only footage you've seen on LB is on Sportscenter I can see you thinking thats all he does, because thats all they ever show of him. He plays the passing lanes well and gets at least one steal/dunk per game which is what they always show.

                  Finishing = dunking?. MJ was the best finisher in NBA history and are you saying Mike was ALL dunks? Don't be silly. Finishing means getting the ball into the bucket on a drive reguardless of contact, be it via finger roll, double-clutch, up and under, layup or the highest percentage shot - the dunk. AI is a great finisher and he rarely dunks.

                  LB doesn't play the point because having a McInnis takes alot of responsibility off of LB whereas he no longer has to bring the ball up, initiate the offense, keep everybody involved, and still try to work on his own development. Thats why their winning now. J-Mac also doesn't turn the ball over nearly as much as LB did.

                  "LeBron isn't the PG now because he dunks better" Some people....

                  Melo is a beast. I love his game and his attitude. This thread is about him. Why does every "props for Melo" thread end up being about how LeBron aint sh!t? No need to bring down James to prove how good Melo is.

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                  umm... where to start. I didnt say finishing = dunking did I? I used it as an example. You and the other poster took what I said and interpreted your own way. I also didnt say that all lebron did was dunk or that he did that the most. what I said was that when he dunks, its usually some spectacular dunk that people know him for. I didnt say that "lebron doesnt play point because he dunks better" you did. I meant with someone else playing point, he gets more points as he is dangerous as a finisher (u explained finishing). I merely was saying that dunking is one way to do it and one way that lebron distinguishes himself.

                  I know youre this boards #1 "Lebron" fan but theres no need to make a long *** post berating someone who didnt even put him down. I know how lebron plays, Ive watched their games. It was assumed that you knew the answer to "theres a reason why he doesnt play point" but obviously you took it and twisted what I said. You know why he doesnt play point and thats all the turnovers due to teammates not on his wavelength (ala J-Kidd) causing passes to make TOs. Noone put down Lebron in this thread and if someone did it wasnt me.

                  If you are going to set someone straight KNOW what YOU are talking about

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                  • Tha_Kid
                    All Star
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 6550

                    #69
                    Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    HMcCoy said:
                    </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                    BigMike said:
                    NEway, whoever said Lebron isnt known for being a spectacular dunker I respect your opinion but ..... I do agree that lebron's court vision has been hyped but theres a reason he no longer plays point, and thats because hes a great finisher (read: dunker)


                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                    If your talking LeBron, please know what you are talking ABOUT.

                    P2K was absolutely right. LeBron rarely dunks unless its a fastbreak or breakaway. If the only footage you've seen on LB is on Sportscenter I can see you thinking thats all he does, because thats all they ever show of him. He plays the passing lanes well and gets at least one steal/dunk per game which is what they always show.

                    Finishing = dunking?. MJ was the best finisher in NBA history and are you saying Mike was ALL dunks? Don't be silly. Finishing means getting the ball into the bucket on a drive reguardless of contact, be it via finger roll, double-clutch, up and under, layup or the highest percentage shot - the dunk. AI is a great finisher and he rarely dunks.

                    LB doesn't play the point because having a McInnis takes alot of responsibility off of LB whereas he no longer has to bring the ball up, initiate the offense, keep everybody involved, and still try to work on his own development. Thats why their winning now. J-Mac also doesn't turn the ball over nearly as much as LB did.

                    "LeBron isn't the PG now because he dunks better" Some people....

                    Melo is a beast. I love his game and his attitude. This thread is about him. Why does every "props for Melo" thread end up being about how LeBron aint sh!t? No need to bring down James to prove how good Melo is.

                    <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                    umm... where to start. I didnt say finishing = dunking did I? I used it as an example. You and the other poster took what I said and interpreted your own way. I also didnt say that all lebron did was dunk or that he did that the most. what I said was that when he dunks, its usually some spectacular dunk that people know him for. I didnt say that "lebron doesnt play point because he dunks better" you did. I meant with someone else playing point, he gets more points as he is dangerous as a finisher (u explained finishing). I merely was saying that dunking is one way to do it and one way that lebron distinguishes himself.

                    I know youre this boards #1 "Lebron" fan but theres no need to make a long *** post berating someone who didnt even put him down. I know how lebron plays, Ive watched their games. It was assumed that you knew the answer to "theres a reason why he doesnt play point" but obviously you took it and twisted what I said. You know why he doesnt play point and thats all the turnovers due to teammates not on his wavelength (ala J-Kidd) causing passes to make TOs. Noone put down Lebron in this thread and if someone did it wasnt me.

                    If you are going to set someone straight KNOW what YOU are talking about

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                    • Tha_Kid
                      All Star
                      • Oct 2002
                      • 6550

                      #70
                      Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      HMcCoy said:
                      </font><blockquote><font class="small">Quote:</font><hr />
                      BigMike said:
                      NEway, whoever said Lebron isnt known for being a spectacular dunker I respect your opinion but ..... I do agree that lebron's court vision has been hyped but theres a reason he no longer plays point, and thats because hes a great finisher (read: dunker)


                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">


                      If your talking LeBron, please know what you are talking ABOUT.

                      P2K was absolutely right. LeBron rarely dunks unless its a fastbreak or breakaway. If the only footage you've seen on LB is on Sportscenter I can see you thinking thats all he does, because thats all they ever show of him. He plays the passing lanes well and gets at least one steal/dunk per game which is what they always show.

                      Finishing = dunking?. MJ was the best finisher in NBA history and are you saying Mike was ALL dunks? Don't be silly. Finishing means getting the ball into the bucket on a drive reguardless of contact, be it via finger roll, double-clutch, up and under, layup or the highest percentage shot - the dunk. AI is a great finisher and he rarely dunks.

                      LB doesn't play the point because having a McInnis takes alot of responsibility off of LB whereas he no longer has to bring the ball up, initiate the offense, keep everybody involved, and still try to work on his own development. Thats why their winning now. J-Mac also doesn't turn the ball over nearly as much as LB did.

                      "LeBron isn't the PG now because he dunks better" Some people....

                      Melo is a beast. I love his game and his attitude. This thread is about him. Why does every "props for Melo" thread end up being about how LeBron aint sh!t? No need to bring down James to prove how good Melo is.

                      <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                      umm... where to start. I didnt say finishing = dunking did I? I used it as an example. You and the other poster took what I said and interpreted your own way. I also didnt say that all lebron did was dunk or that he did that the most. what I said was that when he dunks, its usually some spectacular dunk that people know him for. I didnt say that "lebron doesnt play point because he dunks better" you did. I meant with someone else playing point, he gets more points as he is dangerous as a finisher (u explained finishing). I merely was saying that dunking is one way to do it and one way that lebron distinguishes himself.

                      I know youre this boards #1 "Lebron" fan but theres no need to make a long *** post berating someone who didnt even put him down. I know how lebron plays, Ive watched their games. It was assumed that you knew the answer to "theres a reason why he doesnt play point" but obviously you took it and twisted what I said. You know why he doesnt play point and thats all the turnovers due to teammates not on his wavelength (ala J-Kidd) causing passes to make TOs. Noone put down Lebron in this thread and if someone did it wasnt me.

                      If you are going to set someone straight KNOW what YOU are talking about

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                      • Tha_Kid
                        All Star
                        • Oct 2002
                        • 6550

                        #71
                        Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

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                        Programmed2Kill said:
                        And also this Carmelo-Pierce comparison needs to cease.

                        BigMike put up the percentages and per game stats. Didn't tell the whole story. In Pierces second year, he played in 73 games, only like 6 games more than Carmelo at this point and damn near had 100 more 3 point attempts by now. And since then, Pierce has attempted over 300 three-point shots each season and in 2000-2001 season over 500 attempts. And in Pierce's rookie year (which was the lockout season), in 47 games, Pierce attempted 204 three-point shots. He was heading for almost 400 there.

                        Carmelo right now in 67 games has 177 three-point attempts. NOWHERE near Paul Pierce-like.


                        In Pierce's career, he is averaging 4.9 three-point attempts per game, while Carmelo so far is averaging 2.6 three-point attempts per game.


                        I don't see how they compare.

                        <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                        I know, the comparison has its weak spots but people were dogging melo and saying hes going to be one dimensional-only good for scoring player. I just thought that I could show people a different future for melo. You are right tho, 3 pointers are a big difference. Like I said earlier, this comparison is more from watching them play than #s. Its just that #s give credibility.....I'm ranting, so i'll just stop now.

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                        • Tha_Kid
                          All Star
                          • Oct 2002
                          • 6550

                          #72
                          Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

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                          Programmed2Kill said:
                          And also this Carmelo-Pierce comparison needs to cease.

                          BigMike put up the percentages and per game stats. Didn't tell the whole story. In Pierces second year, he played in 73 games, only like 6 games more than Carmelo at this point and damn near had 100 more 3 point attempts by now. And since then, Pierce has attempted over 300 three-point shots each season and in 2000-2001 season over 500 attempts. And in Pierce's rookie year (which was the lockout season), in 47 games, Pierce attempted 204 three-point shots. He was heading for almost 400 there.

                          Carmelo right now in 67 games has 177 three-point attempts. NOWHERE near Paul Pierce-like.


                          In Pierce's career, he is averaging 4.9 three-point attempts per game, while Carmelo so far is averaging 2.6 three-point attempts per game.


                          I don't see how they compare.

                          <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                          I know, the comparison has its weak spots but people were dogging melo and saying hes going to be one dimensional-only good for scoring player. I just thought that I could show people a different future for melo. You are right tho, 3 pointers are a big difference. Like I said earlier, this comparison is more from watching them play than #s. Its just that #s give credibility.....I'm ranting, so i'll just stop now.

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                          • Tha_Kid
                            All Star
                            • Oct 2002
                            • 6550

                            #73
                            Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

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                            Programmed2Kill said:
                            And also this Carmelo-Pierce comparison needs to cease.

                            BigMike put up the percentages and per game stats. Didn't tell the whole story. In Pierces second year, he played in 73 games, only like 6 games more than Carmelo at this point and damn near had 100 more 3 point attempts by now. And since then, Pierce has attempted over 300 three-point shots each season and in 2000-2001 season over 500 attempts. And in Pierce's rookie year (which was the lockout season), in 47 games, Pierce attempted 204 three-point shots. He was heading for almost 400 there.

                            Carmelo right now in 67 games has 177 three-point attempts. NOWHERE near Paul Pierce-like.


                            In Pierce's career, he is averaging 4.9 three-point attempts per game, while Carmelo so far is averaging 2.6 three-point attempts per game.


                            I don't see how they compare.

                            <hr /></blockquote><font class="post">

                            I know, the comparison has its weak spots but people were dogging melo and saying hes going to be one dimensional-only good for scoring player. I just thought that I could show people a different future for melo. You are right tho, 3 pointers are a big difference. Like I said earlier, this comparison is more from watching them play than #s. Its just that #s give credibility.....I'm ranting, so i'll just stop now.

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                            • Shaver
                              Legend
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 10148

                              #74
                              Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

                              If it walks like a Big Dog...

                              If it barks like a Big Dog...

                              It's a Big Dog...
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                              • Shaver
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                                #75
                                Re: Carmelo in 5 years: PP not Big Dog

                                If it walks like a Big Dog...

                                If it barks like a Big Dog...

                                It's a Big Dog...
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