Is Allen Iverson TOP 5 SG All-Time?

[ClutchCity]

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Top 5 combo guard of all-time. Top 10 SG of all-time.

[OSUFan_88]

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I can't imagine anyone who hated Iverson.

Still, Iverson is probably a top 10 SG all time.

No chance he cracks the top 5, though.

[jeebs9]

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Here is the thing that will always in my mind hold me back from saying Iverson with any All-Time great. His interview with David Aldridge is really telling. Iverson career could of been much better. We all know that. He will always be know in the streets though.

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That's the thing that will always bother me. He never worked on his game. Every year he though he was the best. And nothing had to improve on his end. It's another reason he flamed out so quick toward the back end of his career. Can anyone here imagine if Iverson got a legit trainer in his corner during the offseason? His career would of lasted a little long.

[24ct]

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Jordan
Kobe
AI
Wade
T-Mac

Reggie Miller & Ray Allen are nice too, but these are my favorite.

[Dice]

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For Iverson to carry that 2001 Sixers team to the Finals is basically astounding within itself and to me does merit him being a top 5 all-time SG. Other than Lebron in 2007, I can't remember a player in recent memory that carried a team on his shoulders all the way to the championship. And Iverson's 2001 playoff run is much more amazing than Lebron's because Iverson is a questionable 6'0" where Lebron is 6'8".

[AlexBrady]

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For Iverson to carry that 2001 Sixers team to the Finals is basically astounding within itself and to me does merit him being a top 5 all-time SG. Other than Lebron in 2007, I can't remember a player in recent memory that carried a team on his shoulders all the way to the championship. And Iverson's 2001 playoff run is much more amazing than Lebron's because Iverson is a questionable 6'0" where Lebron is 6'8".

That 01 Sixers team did have plenty of good defenders to cover for Iverson's defensive gambles. Aaron McKie, Tyrone Hill, George Lynch, Eric Snow, and Dikembe Mutombo.

Larry Brown instilled a mentality of hard work, speed, and ferocious defensive pressure. The strategy worked until the Finals. After game one, the Lakers trumped the Sixers' defensive pressure with back door cuts.

Iverson should have moved more without the ball than he did. Aaron McKie was a fine scorer and should have been involved more.

[slimm44]

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That 01 Sixers team did have plenty of good defenders to cover for Iverson's defensive gambles. Aaron McKie, Tyrone Hill, George Lynch, Eric Snow, and Dikembe Mutombo.

Larry Brown instilled a mentality of hard work, speed, and ferocious defensive pressure. The strategy worked until the Finals. After game one, the Lakers trumped the Sixers' defensive pressure with back door cuts.

Iverson should have moved more without the ball than he did. Aaron McKie was a fine scorer and should have been involved more.

As great as their defense was their offense was equally as horrible and one-dimensional. One really shouldn't be mentioned without the other.

[ojandpizza]

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As great as their defense was their offense was equally as horrible and one-dimensional. One really shouldn't be mentioned without the other.

The team as a whole is close to the worst I've ever saw in the finals. Even with that above average defense.

[The__Answ3r_i3]

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i got ai 5th behind mj,kobe,west and wade i don't get how some of you guys have ray allen or mitch ahead of ai ray was good but never on ai's level and mitch never really got his team anywhere.

[The__Answ3r_i3]

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Still, Iverson is probably a top 10 SG all time.

No chance he cracks the top 5, though.

no chance really? who's your top 5 sg's?

[superjames1992]

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The fact that he really fell off a cliff after he got a little age on him really knocks him down quite a bit in my book.

[BullFan 23]

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1. Michael Jordan
2. Kobe Bryant
3. Jerry West
4. Dwyane Wade
5. Bill Sharman
6. Sam Jones
7. Hal Greer
8. Clyde Drexler
9. Earl Monroe
10. Sidney Moncrief

Just missing: Joe Dumars, Lou Hudson, Ray Allen, and Mitch Richmond.

Iverson was incredibly tough and courageous but not as good as these guys.

Iverson was better than 8 people on that list. Let's compare stats and not accolades.

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[ojandpizza]

This is why a value Iverson so highly when comparing him to other shooting guards..

Iverson is probably the best scorer on anybody's SG list not named Michael Jordan. The guy could flat out score at will from anywhere on the court. Hell even Kobe didn't catch him on the all time scoring list until Iverson had been out of the league for 2 or 3 years and they came into the league at the same time. Scoring is the number one thing a shooting guard is supposed to do.

Iverson also did something nobody on the SG list has done (even MJ) and that is carry a HORRIBLE team all the way to the finals. He is the ultimate "put the team on your back" type of guy. Wade and Kobe have both struggled to win games when they weren't playing along other stars.

While you could argue someone like Wade is bigger and a better defender, you could also argue Iverson is a better ball handler, passer, shooter, and scorer..

Iverson plays with more heart than probably anybody on the SG list not named Jordan. He gave 110% every game with no regard to his body, and he wanted to win as bad as anybody. Regular season MVP, 4 scoring titles, and 2nd all time in playoff PPG behind Jordan..

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Other than Lebron in 2007, I can't remember a player in recent memory that carried a team on his shoulders all the way to the championship.

Jason Kidd did it the next year, although none of these 3 carried the teams to a Championship since they didn't win it.

[AlexBrady]

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Iverson was better than 8 people on that list. Let's compare stats and not accolades.

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Who was Iverson better than among the people I listed? My guys had complete games.
Compare stats? Numbers don't begin to tell the story. I go by what my eyes tell me.

This is why a value Iverson so highly when comparing him to other shooting guards..

Iverson is probably the best scorer on anybody's SG list not named Michael Jordan. The guy could flat out score at will from anywhere on the court. Hell even Kobe didn't catch him on the all time scoring list until Iverson had been out of the league for 2 or 3 years and they came into the league at the same time. Scoring is the number one thing a shooting guard is supposed to do.

Iverson also did something nobody on the SG list has done (even MJ) and that is carry a HORRIBLE team all the way to the finals. He is the ultimate "put the team on your back" type of guy. Wade and Kobe have both struggled to win games when they weren't playing along other stars.

While you could argue someone like Wade is bigger and a better defender, you could also argue Iverson is a better ball handler, passer, shooter, and scorer..

Iverson plays with more heart than probably anybody on the SG list not named Jordan. He gave 110% every game with no regard to his body, and he wanted to win as bad as anybody. Regular season MVP, 4 scoring titles, and 2nd all time in playoff PPG behind Jordan..

Iverson was a poor perimeter shooter. That failing automatically disqualifies him from being considered the best scorer behind Jordan.
What advantage is gained if Iverson scores 28 points while his opposite number scores 30? Defense is crucial.