2014 Draft Discussion

[og236]

Re: 2014 Draft Class

He doesn't have the jumper and the total inside package that ZBo has. He literally has to barrel him way close enough to the rim to hit that little left handed shot. It's been pretty easy for him in college because he's bigger/stronger than everyone but also quick enough to get by big men. It'll be a completely different game for him when he first hits the league.. If he can add that stuff to his game this offseason before he hits the court as a pro he could be very solid..

Either way I don't think ZBo is the best comparison for him, I think it's easy for people to say because they look alike with similar build lol... ZBo had 10times the touch Randle has and Randle is quite a bit more athletic than Zack has ever been.

He has awesome potential as a rebounder.

Yea I 100% agree with you man. His jumpshot has some potential, but he's gonna have to put that time in. It's up to him if he wants to be a very good player instead of just a good player at the next level.


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[BleacherBum2310]

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What guys do you think will leave from Michigan and MSU? Dawson and Harris for msu, stauskas grob3 and mcgary for michigan. I'm just talking about underclass men.

For Michigan Stauskas is gone but I think there is chance for McGary to be back. GR3 I truly don't know.

[redsrule]

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For Michigan Stauskas is gone but I think there is chance for McGary to be back. GR3 I truly don't know.

I'd be surprised if McGary comes back honestly. I don't think he wants to risk getting hurt again.

Haven't watched much of the Harrison twins until the sec tourney and so far in the ncaa tourney. I think both guys will be better pros than college players. I could see both being potential starters on a contending team. Think for both of them their best role would be as the first guard off the bench. Can be a combo type who might actually have enough size to slide to the 3 in some lineups.

They have a lot of talent. Andrew is finally getting to the point that he probably should have been a couple months ago. Because of that Aaron is getting better looks and is getting a lot more confidence shooting. I believe he is about 50% from 3 since the SEC tournament start (something like 16-32).
I'd rather have Andrew Harrison than Tyler Ennis, although I wouldn't touch either in the lottery.

His issue with me is still scoring. I think if you are a team who is needing their pick to be one of the focal points of the offense he's not the pick for them. But you have to take him early because his size, strength, rebounding makes him one of the more NBA-ready players in the draft.

Honestly if I was a team that already had scorers but lacked a great PF I would take him as early as possible. It'll be interesting to see where the Lakers pick is, with Kobe, Young, Meeks, Johnson, etc on the wing capable of scoring and 14 point guards already on the roster I think he would be a great addition for them.

He is a good offensive player. He forces it too much on offense, but he constantly is getting double and tripled team here. It hasn't helped that court spacing has been atrocious at Kentucky & the defense has packed it in because of the lack of shooting for most of the year. Randle doesn't have the offensive game of Parker but his is solid. His jump shot isn't bad when he takes his time and doesn't rush it & he can occasionally hit a 3 (although he hasn't done it well this year)

[kaletore11]

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Seems like Saric is going to Efes in Turkey, not the NBA.

[KG]

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Haven't watched much of the Harrison twins until the sec tourney and so far in the ncaa tourney. I think both guys will be better pros than college players. I could see both being potential starters on a contending team. Think for both of them their best role would be as the first guard off the bench. Can be a combo type who might actually have enough size to slide to the 3 in some lineups.

They seem so slow and mechanical to me although you can see the improvement between the first game and now.

He doesn't have the jumper and the total inside package that ZBo has. He literally has to barrel him way close enough to the rim to hit that little left handed shot. It's been pretty easy for him in college because he's bigger/stronger than everyone but also quick enough to get by big men. It'll be a completely different game for him when he first hits the league.. If he can add that stuff to his game this offseason before he hits the court as a pro he could be very solid..

Either way I don't think ZBo is the best comparison for him, I think it's easy for people to say because they look alike with similar build lol... ZBo had 10times the touch Randle has and Randle is quite a bit more athletic than Zack has ever been.

He has awesome potential as a rebounder.

Zbo didn't have anything close to that jumper at Michigan State. He's always had a feathery touch around the rim though.

[ojandpizza]

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They seem so slow and mechanical to me although you can see the improvement between the first game and now.

Zbo didn't have anything close to that jumper at Michigan State. He's always had a feathery touch around the rim though.

And he's always had it with either hand, posting up or off a face up..

What worries me most about Randle is that I've been able to see Kentucky quite a few times since they are always on TV and I can count on one hand probably the number of times he's done something other than that left handed shot within two feet of the rim.. It's almost as if he has zero confidence in a jumpshot, or in finishing with his right hand, or in making any type of post move other than trying to knock his man out of his way. I would like to see him at least taking some jumpshots and miss them, rather than look like he has zero confidence in his ability to score unless he's within 5 foot of the rim..

Also he usually misses one or two times before every basket he scores. He throws his body into the defenders trying to get a foul instead of just making the shot. I don't think he'll be the biggest and strongest guy on an NBA court the way he is in college.. He won't be able to get 3 looks at half his shot attempts like he does now.

I'm not saying he won't or can't develop his game to become a better offensive player, I just don't think a team that desperately needs a scorer should take him within the top few picks. Still think he would be a strong fit with the Lakers, maybe the Bucks if they can't land Wiggins or Exum.

[BleacherBum2310]

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I'd be surprised if McGary comes back honestly. I don't think he wants to risk getting hurt again.

probably would be the smart decision. only reasoning for me is he is projected to go in the 2nd round. So a year to prove he's healthy and in Beilein system could help that's all.

[ehh]

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Noah Vonleh is entering the draft. I like that kid a lot and he's still young (doesn't turn 19 until August).

DX has him at #7, I'd go one notch higher if I were a GM and take him over Smart.

[Caveman24]

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Noah Vonleh is entering the draft. I like that kid a lot and he's still young (doesn't turn 19 until August).

DX has him at #7, I'd go one notch higher if I were a GM and take him over Smart.

Did Smart declare already?

[Caveman24]

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Hardly nobody talking about LeBryan Nash? I think he can be an great defender and an solid 10-13 PPG guy going forward.I would draft based of his name alone haha.

[og236]

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Hardly nobody talking about LeBryan Nash? I think he can be an great defender and an solid 10-13 PPG guy going forward.I would draft based of his name alone haha.

His problem is that he's too inconsistent & his jumper needs work. He's also not very aggressive offensively. Kinda reminds me of Perry Jones


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[Caveman24]

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His problem is that he's too inconsistent & his jumper needs work. He's also not very aggressive offensively. Kinda reminds me of Perry Jones


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Yikes he reminds me nothing of Perry Jones.

[og236]

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Yikes he reminds me nothing of Perry Jones.

Look at the 2 compared, kinda similar






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[ojandpizza]

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So most mock drafts I've saw have Philly taking Embiid, whether it's with the first pick or third pick or wherever they have them finishing.. Am I the only one this doesn't make any sense at all to? They just got Noel, unless their is zero faith in him to become a good player from management this makes zero sense to me.. You just gutted the entire team, you need a sure thing instead of banking on pure potential.. Just my opinion.

I would think Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Smart, would all be better choices for them at this point.. They have a starting front court of Young and Noel coming in to next season, and Sims has been alright for them since coming in the trade and should be decent as a bench option next season.

[redsrule]

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So most mock drafts I've saw have Philly taking Embiid, whether it's with the first pick or third pick or wherever they have them finishing.. Am I the only one this doesn't make any sense at all to? They just got Noel, unless their is zero faith in him to become a good player from management this makes zero sense to me.. You just gutted the entire team, you need a sure thing instead of banking on pure potential.. Just my opinion.

I would think Wiggins, Parker, Exum, Smart, would all be better choices for them at this point.. They have a starting front court of Young and Noel coming in to next season, and Sims has been alright for them since coming in the trade and should be decent as a bench option next season.

Yes it would be dumb to draft Embiid considering Noel has as much potential as Embiid does imo. Noel is an elite shot blocker already, and is a very good defensive player as a whole. His offensive game obviously needs work, and he has some question marks about his knee. If they get the #1 pick, it should be Wiggins 10 times out of 10 imo. They have a potential future all star PG and a future potential defensive stopper in Noel. They will also be getting the Pelicans pick most likely and can pick up another quality guy. If Smart falls, to say 7 (where the Pelicans pick might end up) they could grab Smart who could start at the 2 for them.
That lineup would have some offensive problems, but a core of MCW-Noel-Wiggins-Smart is pretty good.