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  • redsrule
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    • Apr 2010
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    #2191
    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

    Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
    Can I just ask why folks would consider exum #1 over wiggins and Parker. Like specifically about his skill set


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    He's such a question mark. The guy avoided all competitive basketball for the last year and he has somehow RISEN on draft boards. I think Exum is going to be a good NBA PG but I'm confused why someone would even think about taking him over Wiggins.
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    • Yeah...THAT Guy
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      • Dec 2006
      • 17294

      #2192
      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

      Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
      Can I just ask why folks would consider exum #1 over wiggins and Parker. Like specifically about his skill set


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      Projects to be a 2 way player like Wiggins, devastating first step, and probably a better finisher and passer than both of them right now. Needs to improve his left hand (like Wiggins) and his jumpshot though. He's got a chance to be a superstar, and it also helps that intangibles wise, he's as good as there is, but you have to have balls of steel to take him over Jabari and Wiggins with how much hype they have.
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      • ojandpizza
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        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #2193
        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

        Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
        I hear you. That's why I asked specifically about his skill set. He has not proven he can shoot at all, in fact right now it's below average unless he's made a quick improvement since scouts last saw him in real games. To take him #1 is basically doing so on very limited evidence. I would still take him top 5 but #1?

        Btw exum is nowhere near Westbrook in terms of explosiveness and athleticism


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        Exactly, I agree..

        And even if his skill set is comparable to someone like Westbrook, how good of a player is that really if you take away half of his explosiveness.


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        • turty11
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          • Apr 2013
          • 8923

          #2194
          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

          Originally posted by redsrule
          The guy avoided all competitive basketball for the last year and he has somehow RISEN on draft boards.
          guys always rise when there is no tape to criticize their game about. one of the benefits of being a young overseas draftee
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          • ex carrabba fan
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            • Oct 2004
            • 32744

            #2195
            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
            Projects to be a 2 way player like Wiggins, devastating first step, and probably a better finisher and passer than both of them right now. Needs to improve his left hand (like Wiggins) and his jumpshot though. He's got a chance to be a superstar, and it also helps that intangibles wise, he's as good as there is, but you have to have balls of steel to take him over Jabari and Wiggins with how much hype they have.
            Ok thank you for the response. Let's be real exum has not proven he's a better finisher than wiggins and Parker. How could he have proved that


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            • Yeah...THAT Guy
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              • Dec 2006
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              #2196
              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

              Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
              Ok thank you for the response. Let's be real exum has not proven he's a better finisher than wiggins and Parker. How could he have proved that


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              Well we can't really prove much of anything until they all play in the NBA, but he has great body control when he's in the air and has great touch around the rim. Just a really crafty finisher, and both Wiggins and Jabari struggle a bit in terms of finishing.
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              • turty11
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                • Apr 2013
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                #2197
                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                nice little article showing shot charts for the top guys in the draft.

                the difference between stauskas/mcbuckets and the rest of the guys is insane

                @ that guy, actually charts say otherwise for wiggins

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                • ex carrabba fan
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                  • Oct 2004
                  • 32744

                  #2198
                  Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                  Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Well we can't really prove much of anything until they all play in the NBA, but he has great body control when he's in the air and has great touch around the rim. Just a really crafty finisher, and both Wiggins and Jabari struggle a bit in terms of finishing.
                  I mean proved thus far. Wiggins and Parker played against college comp while exum played against high schoolers and even with that there's limited footage. I don't buy that exum is a better finisher especially if were projecting to the next level


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                  • turty11
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                    • Apr 2013
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                    #2199
                    Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                    almost evertyime someone talks about exum they mention how great he is finishing and getting to the rim, which is why i said he is like westbrook (ofc i wasnt saying hes that explosive, but hes quick as lightning)

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                    • ex carrabba fan
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                      • Oct 2004
                      • 32744

                      #2200
                      Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                      People say a lot of things though. I'm just asking for proof and evidence


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                      • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                        • Dec 2006
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                        #2201
                        Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                        Originally posted by turty11
                        nice little article showing shot charts for the top guys in the draft.

                        the difference between stauskas/mcbuckets and the rest of the guys is insane

                        @ that guy, actually charts say otherwise for wiggins

                        http://grantland.com/the-triangle/th...lottery-picks/

                        Wiggins and Jabari were pretty much average according to shot charts, but if you exclude the breakaway and uncontested dunks, they tended to really struggle finishing in traffic.
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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          #2202
                          Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                          People say a lot of things though. I'm just asking for proof and evidence


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                          Well we don't really have proof of how any of these guys will fare in the NBA. Exum has played against competition on par with the college guys as well, just not in awhile, and he excelled in those environments as well. Nobody knows for sure if Jabari or Wiggins will be able to beat their men off the dribble for awhile or finish in traffic against NBA athletes either. You just have to go with what you have. Based off of what people have seen of Exum, he appears to have a great combination or athleticism, body control, touch and craftiness around the rim.
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                          • turty11
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                            • Apr 2013
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                            #2203
                            Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                            A league source has told CSNNE.com that the Celtics have engaged the Cleveland Cavaliers about acquiring the No. 1 overall pick in Thursday’s NBA draft.


                            woah baby! make it so danny make it so, give em 6, 17 and another pick in furture years!
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                            • ex carrabba fan
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                              • Oct 2004
                              • 32744

                              #2204
                              Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                              I guess I'm more skeptical than you guys.. I don't take what "people say" on the surface level. I've seen him in action at the world summit but besides that there's limited footage. From what I've seen I just don't see how you would take him #1
                              But again I'd take him too 5


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                              • turty11
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                                • Apr 2013
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                                #2205
                                Re: 2014 Draft Discussion

                                you take/think about him #1 because hes a point guard. if he was a 2/3/ i doubt it would even be discussed
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