Should the NBA/NCAA allow players to go strait to the pros?

[ojandpizza]

Should the NBA/NCAA allow players to go strait to the pros?

I think if an NBA team drafts a kid who's 18 and he's not physically or mentally ready for the league then it's their own damn fault for not making smarter draft choices..

These kids shouldn't be penalized because front offices in the NBA have made past mistakes when drafting very underdeveloped players.

I still like the idea of 1 year removed from high school, player can go to college or if they want to skip the college process straight to a more minor league type of D-League system..

[KG]

Re: Should the NBA/NCAA allow players to go strait to the pros?

I think if an NBA team drafts a kid who's 18 and he's not physically or mentally ready for the league then it's their own damn fault for not making smarter draft choices..

These kids shouldn't be penalized because front offices in the NBA have made past mistakes when drafting very underdeveloped players.

I still like the idea of 1 year removed from high school, player can go to college or if they want to skip the college process straight to a more minor league type of D-League system..

A lot of GMs would love a 3yrs in college/21 yrs old limit. It would make talent evaluation easier for them and kill a lot of the "tremendous upside" talk.

[da ThRONe]

Re: Should the NBA/NCAA allow players to go strait to the pros?

I think if an NBA team drafts a kid who's 18 and he's not physically or mentally ready for the league then it's their own damn fault for not making smarter draft choices..

These kids shouldn't be penalized because front offices in the NBA have made past mistakes when drafting very underdeveloped players.

I still like the idea of 1 year removed from high school, player can go to college or if they want to skip the college process straight to a more minor league type of D-League system..

That's the thing most of the guys that left from high school don't bust. Some mature faster than others, but it's not like there's a huge percentage of player that bust. So what's the big deal?

[ProfessaPackMan]

Should the NBA/NCAA allow players to go strait to the pros?

Throne's been gone most of the year and he's already busted out that "reduce the season" nonsense again LOL.

Good to have you back, man.

As for the question, just go back and copy and read my thoughts on this issue from the numerous times we've had this discussion on here because they haven't changed.

[da ThRONe]

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The young guys do get in great individual workouts though, before games and on days off.

It's such a hard decision because kids mature differently (on & off the court). There was a time in the late-90s, early 2000s where a lot of the NBA stars were kids straight out of HS (Kobe, T-Mac, KG, etc...). IDK, maybe the league should expand the draft allowing teams to stash more kids in the D-League for development.

Bynum, Stoudemire, J. O'Neal, Ibaka, Howard, Jefferson all seem to all develop just fine with no college. This isn't even talking about guys like Chandler and Perkins who played major roles on title teams.


Again where are all these under developed players out of HS that justify the rule.

[da ThRONe]

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Throne's been gone most of the year and he's already busted out that "reduce the season" nonsense again LOL.

Good to have you back, man.

As for the question, just go back and copy and read my thoughts on this issue from the numerous times we've had this discussion on here because they haven't changed.

Good to be back.


For the record I been lurking in the wings the whole time.

[KG]

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Bynum, Stoudemire, J. O'Neal, Ibaka, Howard, Jefferson all seem to all develop just fine with no college. This isn't even talking about guys like Chandler and Perkins who played major roles on title teams.


Again where are all these under developed players out of HS that justify the rule.

Don't need to convince me. I'm in favor of HS->Pros


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[ojandpizza]

Re: Should the NBA/NCAA allow players to go strait to the pros?

That's the thing most of the guys that left from high school don't bust. Some mature faster than others, but it's not like there's a huge percentage of player that bust. So what's the big deal?

I don't have a problem with it, I'm not against you here.. My problem is basically forcing kids to either attend college or move to another country.. If the NBA is going to keep the one year removed from college or an age limit rule, whatever the case may be, I would rather the kids have the option of spending that one year in the D-League rather than go to college.. College isn't for everyone, and if a player does decide he wants to try the college route and ends up not liking college I don't think they should be required to spend an extra 2 or 3 years there just to be eligible for the NBA.

[da ThRONe]

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Don't need to convince me. I'm in favor of HS->Pros


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Yeah I was adding on to your comment.

[redsrule]

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For every guy you say that has developed fine, you have 5 that were giant busts and didn't develop at all. I personally think you should have to stay in school 2 years before the NBA. It helps both games. If a kid doesn't want to go to college there is always oversees or the D-League. The D-League is just as bad as AAU though, they play no defense whatsoever so it's kind of hard to "develop" when it's so skewed to the offensive game there.

[da ThRONe]

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For every guy you say that has developed fine, you have 5 that were giant busts and didn't develop at all. I personally think you should have to stay in school 2 years before the NBA. It helps both games. If a kid doesn't want to go to college there is always oversees or the D-League. The D-League is just as bad as AAU though, they play no defense whatsoever so it's kind of hard to "develop" when it's so skewed to the offensive game there.

Ok give me 25 HS bigs that didn't develop. Then I'll give you a list of bigs that stayed at least 2 years in college that busted out of the league.

[BJNT]

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Me personally, I would love to increase the age limit to 2 years. Those that dont want to play college ball can play overseas, the D-League, or some other minor league. For every one Lebron James there are ten Kwame Browns. Yes at 18 you can vote in elections and fight for your country in the military but yet you have to wait to until you're 21 in order to drink. Why? Maturity. Mentally and physically.

However, I believe the league and the Player's Association will compromise and do what baseball does. With the only difference being instead of 3 years if the player decides to go to college it will be only 2 years. I just don't see them agreeing to more than 2. I also seeing each team having their own D-League team and possibly expanding the draft to 3 or 4 rounds.

[superjames1992]

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Yes, they should be able to go straight to the pros. One-and-dones have done a lot of harm to college sports, IMO... It's a joke to have guys that are NBA caliber come in and play for one year and everyone knows it.

Or, if you're going to have an age limit, make it 20 or 21. Making players stay in college for one year is just terrible.

[dsallupinyaarea]

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For every guy you say that has developed fine, you have 5 that were giant busts and didn't develop at all.

You can say that about all basketball players. Regardless of their path to the NBA.

For every Tim Duncan, there's 25 Christian Laettners.

Also, (and I haven't looked into this) I suspect a lot of this is narrative driven. Historically, is the bust rate higher for straight to pro and/or 1 and done players? Do we even have enough of a sample size of 1 and done players to come to a meaningful conclusion? The rule is less than 10 years old and, if we're being honest, the talent pool has exploded in the NBA since it's implementation. How are we explaining this explosion in talent if the development system (AAU/College/etc) is broken?

[DJ_Solis]

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Just looked through the 1998-2005 drafts to see how all the straight out of HS players careers turned out. I must say, I'm surprised. I thought I would find a lot more busts or players I've never heard of but most players have had pretty good careers or are still in the league.
I always liked when players go to college but it doesn't decide the success of an NBA career.


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