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  • ojandpizza
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    • Apr 2011
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    #226
    3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by 23
    That was Houston's offense before he got there but I do agree its always ebst to go through the middle thats not rocket science.

    Dwights instincts arent always sharp so do it too much and he becomes a turnover machine and predictable.

    I actually think it's looked worse this season than last season, maybe I've just been watching the wrong games. But they have looked a lot this season like if they couldn't hit Dwight off a pick and roll they didn't know how to use him, especially early in the year..

    When you have arguably the best center and shooting guard in the league it's a pretty simple complex, you use the big man to get the guard easier looks and use the guard to get the big man easier looks..

    That second part they have been great at. They have guards who can get in the lane and are good and willing passers to hit Dwight on dump downs or oops.. It's that first part where they struggle.. And games like tonight when they actually use it shows how effective it can be. They went to him earlier and it opened up some kick outs and hit some cutters and the offense looked smooth ever since.. Nice balance too as Harden and Parsons his Dwight for some dunks.. They just look much better in games like tonight IMO..


    I agree with the second part of you post though 100%.. That's been a problem with him his whole career.. But even where he struggles at things like that his is good enough to carry a team to success, we've seen it far to many times and he's the closest thing to a "dominant center" that we have in today's game.

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    • Rockie_Fresh88
      Lockdown Defender
      • Oct 2011
      • 9621

      #227
      Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

      Originally posted by The 24th Letter
      I'm saying man, when they pull the "Games of the Year", 75% of them will be POR games
      So true. they might face the clippers in the first round . Man I know some of those games will be epic
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      • DamnYanks2
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        #228
        Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

        Is there a reason that somebody can come up with that would explain why the west is always so much better and deeper then the East? It's just ridiculous.

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        • ojandpizza
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          • Apr 2011
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          #229
          Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by DamnYanks2
          Is there a reason that somebody can come up with that would explain why the west is always so much better and deeper then the East? It's just ridiculous.

          Most of the teams in the West have had much better front offices for the past few years, and betters coaches IMO..

          as a whole there are better guards and centers in the West than in the East... The top two teams in the East start George Hill and Mario Chalmers, who are among the bottom of the list for starting point guards.. Same with big men, sure there is Noah and Hibbert but the majority of good big men are in the West, power forwards and centers both..

          Also the West isn't really as good defensively, they usually aren't. So teams often trade lots of wins because there isn't a lot of effort out towards stopping the other from scoring.. Look at the top 10 teams this season in PPG and Miami is the only team from the East in that group..

          And I'm not trying to hate here, I love Phoenix and what they've done this year.. But no way should that rotation of players be scoring 106ppg, same with the Lakers being 14th in the league, regardless of if they play at a fast pace or not, teams are letting that line up score 101ppg..

          West teams in general play at a little faster pace which yields to high scoring games, but the defense still is lacking.. That's why the West is usually so evened out as far as seeds 3-8.. It's a year after year thing. You play defense you win in this conference.

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          • 23
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            • Sep 2002
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            #230
            Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread







            Last edited by 23; 03-08-2014, 02:37 AM.

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            • JazzMan
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              • Feb 2012
              • 13547

              #231
              Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by ojandpizza
              Most of the teams in the West have had much better front offices for the past few years, and betters coaches IMO..

              as a whole there are better guards and centers in the West than in the East... The top two teams in the East start George Hill and Mario Chalmers, who are among the bottom of the list for starting point guards.. Same with big men, sure there is Noah and Hibbert but the majority of good big men are in the West, power forwards and centers both..

              Also the West isn't really as good defensively, they usually aren't. So teams often trade lots of wins because there isn't a lot of effort out towards stopping the other from scoring.. Look at the top 10 teams this season in PPG and Miami is the only team from the East in that group..

              And I'm not trying to hate here, I love Phoenix and what they've done this year.. But no way should that rotation of players be scoring 106ppg, same with the Lakers being 14th in the league, regardless of if they play at a fast pace or not, teams are letting that line up score 101ppg..

              West teams in general play at a little faster pace which yields to high scoring games, but the defense still is lacking.. That's why the West is usually so evened out as far as seeds 3-8.. It's a year after year thing. You play defense you win in this conference.
              Memphis was a great example, especially after they traded Rudy Gay for Tayshaun Prince of all people. They played great defense and rebounded well and it got them to the WCF. There was maybe only 3 players (Randolph, Gasol, Conley) that could actually score over 10 points a game consistently in the playoffs.
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              • vtcha
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                • Nov 2009
                • 2180

                #232
                Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by BringTheHeat
                Shaqtin' a fool ... what Kenny!!?? ... his shaqtin' a fool .... what what !!?? ... he shaqtin' a fool ... with Dennis Scott

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                • FlyRice
                  Lillard Time
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 1280

                  #233
                  Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by 23
                  Turner just wanted to know what Harden's beard smelled like.
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                  • DJ_Solis
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                    • Jan 2014
                    • 2216

                    #234
                    Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                    Originally posted by ojandpizza
                    Most of the teams in the West have had much better front offices for the past few years, and betters coaches IMO..

                    as a whole there are better guards and centers in the West than in the East... The top two teams in the East start George Hill and Mario Chalmers, who are among the bottom of the list for starting point guards.. Same with big men, sure there is Noah and Hibbert but the majority of good big men are in the West, power forwards and centers both..

                    Also the West isn't really as good defensively, they usually aren't. So teams often trade lots of wins because there isn't a lot of effort out towards stopping the other from scoring.. Look at the top 10 teams this season in PPG and Miami is the only team from the East in that group..

                    And I'm not trying to hate here, I love Phoenix and what they've done this year.. But no way should that rotation of players be scoring 106ppg, same with the Lakers being 14th in the league, regardless of if they play at a fast pace or not, teams are letting that line up score 101ppg..

                    West teams in general play at a little faster pace which yields to high scoring games, but the defense still is lacking.. That's why the West is usually so evened out as far as seeds 3-8.. It's a year after year thing. You play defense you win in this conference.

                    I would think that the biggest factor is the front offices being better. Also about the coaches, I feel like the coaches in the East are being replaced more than the West, which I also think is a factor.
                    I don't really understand this thing about the defense though, at least for this year. I wouldn't say that either conference is stronger defensively. There are 5 teams from each conference in the top 10 of defensive efficiency. I don't think that Western terms trade wins so often because of lack of defense, I think there is just a lot more offensive talent in the west.
                    Btw if you play defense, you'll win no matter the conference lol.


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                    • lilteapot
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                      • Aug 2013
                      • 4550

                      #235
                      Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                      Originally posted by vtcha
                      Shaqtin' a fool ... what Kenny!!?? ... his shaqtin' a fool .... what what !!?? ... he shaqtin' a fool ... with Dennis Scott
                      This week it was KENNY THE FOO lmao

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                      • DIESEL
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                        • Feb 2003
                        • 1426

                        #236
                        Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                        Originally posted by 23







                        The slow reveal on the Harden gif. is unbelievable.
                        Good job! Good effort!

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                        • Vni
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                          #237
                          Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                          Lakers are getting murdered. I don't think you could play laziyer defense than that.

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                          • SteelersFreak
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                            • 9582

                            #238
                            Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

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                            • z Revis
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                              • Oct 2008
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                              #239
                              Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
                              The Rockets are one of the hottest teams in the league and are @ Home but 23 Points better?

                              Also would Paul George from the 1st 2 months of the season PLEASE COME BACK! That Guy was awesome and fun!
                              To be fair to PG he is dealing with a back injury he suffered last weekend. Don't know how much it's hurting him, but he has said he hasn't felt right since. Something to do with his tailbone I believe.

                              Regardless George could not even be on the court and we still shouldn't get embarrassed the way we have the last 2 games.
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                              • ProfessaPackMan
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #240
                                Re: 3/4 - 3/10 Games Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                Honestly, I think you guy's pick it a part more than anything

                                just about every fan base has that player they love to hate...

                                Bulls have Boozer, I have Bonner, it goes on....it's nothing to really dig that deep into....if you don't feel that way about someone on your team, then you wouldn't understand...but i'd get used to it...because it's not going to stop anytime soon, lol....
                                The thing is...the hate is coming from NON Heat Fans and the Lebron James Fans(who are fans of his and couldn't care less about the team). The Heat fans(the ones that fans of the team)accept him for what he is. That's the funny part about all of this to me LOL.

                                Originally posted by The 24th Letter
                                Well, if you don't think guy's like Chalmers matter....chill with the cape every time some one gets on him....if Bron can't hurt his feels, we certainly can't....he'll be ok.
                                Was the cape comment in reference to me or to Ex? If it's to me, how'd you come to that conclusion that I'm saving Mario everytime someone says something negative about him?

                                Originally posted by SteelersFreak
                                It's because of the attitude he has, people don't like when mediocre players act like they're hot ****. Notice you don't see anyone saying anything like this about Norris Cole.

                                Also I think his statistics are greatly helped by how much he gets to play with the big three.
                                I forgot society hates cocky players or players who play with supreme confidence in themselves. And of course nobody here nitpicks about ****ing Norris Cole. He's a ****ing bench player and who wastes their time to nitpick about a bench player that most of us rarely pay attention to? That'd be like me nitpicking Shane Larkin's game or Jae Crowder's game or Devin Harris' game at this point.
                                Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 03-08-2014, 02:13 PM.
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