Is Artest going to be suspended?

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timid said:
Boston better hope he's out. I dont care what anybody says, he had PP on lockdown. Hell, he commited 8 turnovers and everytime he finally touched the ball, he had Artest in his hip pocket. The only ones who can stop Artest are the league officials, lol.

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The eight turnovers werent due to Artest, and you'd know if you watched the game. He had two offensive fouls which are counted as turnovers, and entry pass to him in the post he mishandled off his foot, not Artest. there was 3 shot clock violations and one was on Harrington. I'd say Artest forced two turnovers from Pierce, three to be generous.

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FGM/FGA 5-18

nuff said

[Tha_Kid]

Re: Is Artest going to be suspended?

not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

[Tha_Kid]

Re: Is Artest going to be suspended?

not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

[Tha_Kid]

Re: Is Artest going to be suspended?

not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

[Skins4Life]

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BigMike said:
not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

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OK, Im sorry. First you say Boston can beat Indiana. Then you say they wont be swept. Now you are saying Artest had nothing to do with PP bad game. No, Artest didnt guard him one on one. Indina plays team defense as well as anyone, and they are esp. committed to not letting PP put the ball on the floor. So yes, players will be around to pick up PP for when he either A. puts the ball on the floor or B. beats Artest to the hole

Keep telling yourself Artest didnt do anything to PP.. Artest didnt block that PP shot in the third, Artest wasnt draped all over him, Artest wasnt all over the passing lanes.

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BigMike said:
not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

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OK, Im sorry. First you say Boston can beat Indiana. Then you say they wont be swept. Now you are saying Artest had nothing to do with PP bad game. No, Artest didnt guard him one on one. Indina plays team defense as well as anyone, and they are esp. committed to not letting PP put the ball on the floor. So yes, players will be around to pick up PP for when he either A. puts the ball on the floor or B. beats Artest to the hole

Keep telling yourself Artest didnt do anything to PP.. Artest didnt block that PP shot in the third, Artest wasnt draped all over him, Artest wasnt all over the passing lanes.

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BigMike said:
not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

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OK, Im sorry. First you say Boston can beat Indiana. Then you say they wont be swept. Now you are saying Artest had nothing to do with PP bad game. No, Artest didnt guard him one on one. Indina plays team defense as well as anyone, and they are esp. committed to not letting PP put the ball on the floor. So yes, players will be around to pick up PP for when he either A. puts the ball on the floor or B. beats Artest to the hole

Keep telling yourself Artest didnt do anything to PP.. Artest didnt block that PP shot in the third, Artest wasnt draped all over him, Artest wasnt all over the passing lanes.

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Ron Artest played a huge role in Indiana's dominating Game 1 win over Boston, but the Pacers might be without their star in Game 2.


Artest is facing a possible suspension for briefly leaving the bench during a confrontation between teammate Jermaine O'Neal and Boston's Brandon Hunter and Ricky Davis.


"If it's judged on intent, he won't be suspended," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said Sunday. "If it's judged technically, he will. Frankly, neither decision would surprise me."

Artest said he gave a statement to a league official on Sunday morning and was assured that he would not be suspended.


But an NBA spokesman said officials are still reviewing the play and have not made a decision.


Losing Artest would be a big blow to the top-seeded Pacers. He scored 24 points and shut down Paul Pierce for the final three quarters of the Pacers' easy win.


The Celtics are lobbying hard for a suspension.


"I state emphatically you cannot leave the bench. It's illegal to do it, and once you do it, you've broken the rule," Celtics coach John Carroll said. "The rule states if you leave the bench you should be suspended for a game. He clearly left the bench. He's just lucky a fight didn't break out, but it could have broken out."


Carroll said he told league officials that if they do not suspend Artest, "they're setting themselves up for future problems. You cannot have a player leave the bench and come on the court for any reason whatsoever."


Carlisle defended his player, saying Artest's "intentions were purely benevolent. ... He saw that Jermaine was in the process of being intentionally provoked into an ejection. His instinct was to go pull him out, so he didn't get ejected and then, three steps out, he realized he wasn't supposed to be out there and he got back."


The confrontation has touched off some verbal sparring between Carlisle and Carroll.


On Sunday, Carlisle suggested that Hunter, a seldom-used rookie, was intentionally trying to provoke the Pacers' leading scorer and rebounder.


"If they're going to deem this situation a suspendable offense for one of our All-Star players, then they have to take a hard look at what Hunter did and that's got to be dealt with severity commensurate with what they're going to do to our guy," Carlisle said.


"To see him grab an MVP-caliber player and just throw him to the floor, to me, was out of character for him," Carlisle said of Hunter. "That's why it got my attention."


Carroll strongly denied that Hunter was being used to provoke O'Neal.


"Rick's entitled to say what he wants to say," Carroll said. "That's his choice. That's his opinion. I'm disappointed in those kinds of quotes. People don't know me very well if they insinuate that."


Carroll said Hunter was inserted to spell a fatigued front line, not to start a fight.


"I would never, ever, ever ruin the integrity of the game to be able to win a game," Carroll said. "I would never send anybody into a game to hurt anybody on purpose."


O'Neal said he thought the Hunter's takedown was intentional, but didn't take it personally.


"I think he might've been put in the game just for that," O'Neal said. "I'm prepared for it. I'm about to go lift some more weights right now and get ready for Game 2 [on Tuesday]."





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Whow, the Celtics really do want to get Artest suspended. any one think they would be going through all of this had this been the regular season. This after the Celtic coach was quotes as saying "I told your guys we could hang with the Pacers, just not for 48 minutes"

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Re: Is Artest going to be suspended?

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Ron Artest played a huge role in Indiana's dominating Game 1 win over Boston, but the Pacers might be without their star in Game 2.


Artest is facing a possible suspension for briefly leaving the bench during a confrontation between teammate Jermaine O'Neal and Boston's Brandon Hunter and Ricky Davis.


"If it's judged on intent, he won't be suspended," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said Sunday. "If it's judged technically, he will. Frankly, neither decision would surprise me."

Artest said he gave a statement to a league official on Sunday morning and was assured that he would not be suspended.


But an NBA spokesman said officials are still reviewing the play and have not made a decision.


Losing Artest would be a big blow to the top-seeded Pacers. He scored 24 points and shut down Paul Pierce for the final three quarters of the Pacers' easy win.


The Celtics are lobbying hard for a suspension.


"I state emphatically you cannot leave the bench. It's illegal to do it, and once you do it, you've broken the rule," Celtics coach John Carroll said. "The rule states if you leave the bench you should be suspended for a game. He clearly left the bench. He's just lucky a fight didn't break out, but it could have broken out."


Carroll said he told league officials that if they do not suspend Artest, "they're setting themselves up for future problems. You cannot have a player leave the bench and come on the court for any reason whatsoever."


Carlisle defended his player, saying Artest's "intentions were purely benevolent. ... He saw that Jermaine was in the process of being intentionally provoked into an ejection. His instinct was to go pull him out, so he didn't get ejected and then, three steps out, he realized he wasn't supposed to be out there and he got back."


The confrontation has touched off some verbal sparring between Carlisle and Carroll.


On Sunday, Carlisle suggested that Hunter, a seldom-used rookie, was intentionally trying to provoke the Pacers' leading scorer and rebounder.


"If they're going to deem this situation a suspendable offense for one of our All-Star players, then they have to take a hard look at what Hunter did and that's got to be dealt with severity commensurate with what they're going to do to our guy," Carlisle said.


"To see him grab an MVP-caliber player and just throw him to the floor, to me, was out of character for him," Carlisle said of Hunter. "That's why it got my attention."


Carroll strongly denied that Hunter was being used to provoke O'Neal.


"Rick's entitled to say what he wants to say," Carroll said. "That's his choice. That's his opinion. I'm disappointed in those kinds of quotes. People don't know me very well if they insinuate that."


Carroll said Hunter was inserted to spell a fatigued front line, not to start a fight.


"I would never, ever, ever ruin the integrity of the game to be able to win a game," Carroll said. "I would never send anybody into a game to hurt anybody on purpose."


O'Neal said he thought the Hunter's takedown was intentional, but didn't take it personally.


"I think he might've been put in the game just for that," O'Neal said. "I'm prepared for it. I'm about to go lift some more weights right now and get ready for Game 2 [on Tuesday]."





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Whow, the Celtics really do want to get Artest suspended. any one think they would be going through all of this had this been the regular season. This after the Celtic coach was quotes as saying "I told your guys we could hang with the Pacers, just not for 48 minutes"

[Skins4Life]

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Ron Artest played a huge role in Indiana's dominating Game 1 win over Boston, but the Pacers might be without their star in Game 2.


Artest is facing a possible suspension for briefly leaving the bench during a confrontation between teammate Jermaine O'Neal and Boston's Brandon Hunter and Ricky Davis.


"If it's judged on intent, he won't be suspended," Pacers coach Rick Carlisle said Sunday. "If it's judged technically, he will. Frankly, neither decision would surprise me."

Artest said he gave a statement to a league official on Sunday morning and was assured that he would not be suspended.


But an NBA spokesman said officials are still reviewing the play and have not made a decision.


Losing Artest would be a big blow to the top-seeded Pacers. He scored 24 points and shut down Paul Pierce for the final three quarters of the Pacers' easy win.


The Celtics are lobbying hard for a suspension.


"I state emphatically you cannot leave the bench. It's illegal to do it, and once you do it, you've broken the rule," Celtics coach John Carroll said. "The rule states if you leave the bench you should be suspended for a game. He clearly left the bench. He's just lucky a fight didn't break out, but it could have broken out."


Carroll said he told league officials that if they do not suspend Artest, "they're setting themselves up for future problems. You cannot have a player leave the bench and come on the court for any reason whatsoever."


Carlisle defended his player, saying Artest's "intentions were purely benevolent. ... He saw that Jermaine was in the process of being intentionally provoked into an ejection. His instinct was to go pull him out, so he didn't get ejected and then, three steps out, he realized he wasn't supposed to be out there and he got back."


The confrontation has touched off some verbal sparring between Carlisle and Carroll.


On Sunday, Carlisle suggested that Hunter, a seldom-used rookie, was intentionally trying to provoke the Pacers' leading scorer and rebounder.


"If they're going to deem this situation a suspendable offense for one of our All-Star players, then they have to take a hard look at what Hunter did and that's got to be dealt with severity commensurate with what they're going to do to our guy," Carlisle said.


"To see him grab an MVP-caliber player and just throw him to the floor, to me, was out of character for him," Carlisle said of Hunter. "That's why it got my attention."


Carroll strongly denied that Hunter was being used to provoke O'Neal.


"Rick's entitled to say what he wants to say," Carroll said. "That's his choice. That's his opinion. I'm disappointed in those kinds of quotes. People don't know me very well if they insinuate that."


Carroll said Hunter was inserted to spell a fatigued front line, not to start a fight.


"I would never, ever, ever ruin the integrity of the game to be able to win a game," Carroll said. "I would never send anybody into a game to hurt anybody on purpose."


O'Neal said he thought the Hunter's takedown was intentional, but didn't take it personally.


"I think he might've been put in the game just for that," O'Neal said. "I'm prepared for it. I'm about to go lift some more weights right now and get ready for Game 2 [on Tuesday]."





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Whow, the Celtics really do want to get Artest suspended. any one think they would be going through all of this had this been the regular season. This after the Celtic coach was quotes as saying "I told your guys we could hang with the Pacers, just not for 48 minutes"

[timid]

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Yeah, if Artest didnt have anything to do with the fact that PP had a bad game, then why are they trying so hard to get him suspended?

[timid]

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Yeah, if Artest didnt have anything to do with the fact that PP had a bad game, then why are they trying so hard to get him suspended?

[timid]

Re: Is Artest going to be suspended?

Yeah, if Artest didnt have anything to do with the fact that PP had a bad game, then why are they trying so hard to get him suspended?

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BigMike said:
not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

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OK, Im sorry. First you say Boston can beat Indiana. Then you say they wont be swept. Now you are saying Artest had nothing to do with PP bad game. No, Artest didnt guard him one on one. Indina plays team defense as well as anyone, and they are esp. committed to not letting PP put the ball on the floor. So yes, players will be around to pick up PP for when he either A. puts the ball on the floor or B. beats Artest to the hole

Keep telling yourself Artest didnt do anything to PP.. Artest didnt block that PP shot in the third, Artest wasnt draped all over him, Artest wasnt all over the passing lanes.

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Dont put words in my mouth. I didnt say Artest had nothing to do with his bad game. I just said you give him too much credit. You cant tell a game from the box score, and that whole post was about how u tried to use one stat to say Artest shut him down.

On another note, It is kind of embarrassing how Carroll is shamelessly pushing for Artest's suspension

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Skins4Life said:
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BigMike said:
not enough said. paul was just out of his rhythm as the whole game had transformed between the time he left the game in the 2nd and when he came back. It went from a tied game to a double-digit deficit. And if you think Artest guarded him one-on-one by himself most of the game, you're kidding yourselves. that stat tells nothing at all about the defensive play of Artest, it just shows misses and makes.

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OK, Im sorry. First you say Boston can beat Indiana. Then you say they wont be swept. Now you are saying Artest had nothing to do with PP bad game. No, Artest didnt guard him one on one. Indina plays team defense as well as anyone, and they are esp. committed to not letting PP put the ball on the floor. So yes, players will be around to pick up PP for when he either A. puts the ball on the floor or B. beats Artest to the hole

Keep telling yourself Artest didnt do anything to PP.. Artest didnt block that PP shot in the third, Artest wasnt draped all over him, Artest wasnt all over the passing lanes.

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Dont put words in my mouth. I didnt say Artest had nothing to do with his bad game. I just said you give him too much credit. You cant tell a game from the box score, and that whole post was about how u tried to use one stat to say Artest shut him down.

On another note, It is kind of embarrassing how Carroll is shamelessly pushing for Artest's suspension