2014 Off-Season Thread

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Four straight Finals appearances, two rings, and Miami being a hot spots for veteran free agents "looking to take a pay cut" (which hasn't born itself out in this free agency thus far) are direct results of LeBron James being there. Wherever he goes, that will undoubtedly follow.

Wherever he goes is obviously a contender, but you don't up and leave and have to build chemistry elsewhere in order to get the same result you already have. In a town where your friends live, family lives, etc.

If he wants to leave he will leave, but to think Riley has to actually pitch something other than the winning culture he's already in.. That's ridiculous.



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[vtcha]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Ariza and Pau signing would be soooo good.

[turty11]

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i dont think lebron has to be pitched at all. i think it really just depends on whats around him but i think the longer he waits the more it hurts the team, because who knows if these guys will commit to less money without knowing 100% lebron is coming back

vtcha,

[Majingir]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

i wonder how next years draft will play into some of these teams decisions. 2 legit 7 footers sitting there along with some real solid guards

@majin, honestly it depends what happens with the wizards/bulls/paces/heat in the rest of FA

i think they will win the division again, but where they finish in the top 4..thats up in the air. i wont say first, but i think 2-3 is also a decent posiblity

If Pacers basically stay the same(except Lance is for sure gone isn't he?), Heat stay the same and Bulls get Melo, then I do see Raptors 4th,but even then,still could be a 50 win team,especially since Raptors get to play the Atlantic teams more than anyone else in top 4 contention of the conference.

[JazzMan]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Four straight Finals appearances, two rings, and Miami being a hot spots for veteran free agents "looking to take a pay cut" (which hasn't born itself out in this free agency thus far) are direct results of LeBron James being there. Wherever he goes, that will undoubtedly follow.

It's only been 2 days.

I agree with you when you say LeBron was the direct result of Miami's success. Without him, they probably wouldn't have made the Finals in any of those 4 years, especially if he was still in the East. But there's a reason why he couldn't get it done in Cleveland. The front office in CLE was incompetent and seemed like they refused giving LeBron any help. Miami has at least shown that they're looking to bring guys in to keep their success and to keep LeBron James.

[JazzMan]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

i wonder how next years draft will play into some of these teams decisions. 2 legit 7 footers sitting there along with some real solid guards

Everybody needs to hop on that Terran Petteway train. If he declares, at least.

[turty11]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

cant believe we all just forgot about channing frye like that...

[Cavsfan4life]

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It's only been 2 days.

I agree with you when you say LeBron was the direct result of Miami's success. Without him, they probably wouldn't have made the Finals in any of those 4 years, especially if he was still in the East. But there's a reason why he couldn't get it done in Cleveland. The front office in CLE was incompetent and seemed like they refused giving LeBron any help. Miami has at least shown that they're looking to bring guys in to keep their success and to keep LeBron James.

Its not like the Cavs refused to give LBJ any help, Gilbert was willing to spend and Ferry made solid moves, even though we never had a true #2, Mo was close. I always hated this narrative, just because we never added another all star talent doesn't mean they didnt attempt too, but this isnt the thread for this.

[Sgt_Carnage]

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Its not like the Cavs refused to give LBJ any help, Gilbert was willing to spend and Ferry made solid moves, even though we never had a true #2, Mo was close. I always hated this narrative, just because we never added another all star talent doesn't mean they didnt attempt too, but this isnt the thread for this.

I'm sorry,but bringing in a washed up Shaq isn't what I'd consider a solid move.

[TheMatrix31]

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It's only been 2 days.

Yes it has, but in those two days, Gortat and Lowry are gone, two guys who were supposedly on Miami's radar to help bolster the team going forward. Gasol, another guy they've talked about, appears to not be willing to take much of a paycut.

Unless you're talking about your bargain basement types that sign for a million, two million a year. Of course there's some of those guys still. But they'll go wherever he goes. Doesn't have to be Miami.

[Majingir]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Kyle Lowry signing for that contract is good news for the Suns, I'd say. Bledsoe's number comes down, and one more asset off the table for Miami.

You never know with free agency, but if Lowry(one of most wanted free agents of this years class) gets paid 12M(which has him only 10th among highest paid PGs), Bledsoe doesn't have much bargaining room at this point,unless there's a team who doesn't care about comparing his salary to other players at his position and just pays what they think it'll take to outbid all other teams.

[iLLWiLL9105]

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Cle definitely tried to bring talent in for Lebron. They tried hard to get Amare before they settled for Jamison. It just never went through. The problem was they settled to often and didnt seem to have a firm grasp of what the plan was. Jamison and Stoudemire are vastly different players as was Shaq. I think the difference is Riley has a clear cut plan and type of player he wants to sign every year and he goes out and tries to get them. A lot of that is about having a coach with an actual system which Brown did not have.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Yes it has, but in those two days, Gortat and Lowry are gone, two guys who were supposedly on Miami's radar to help bolster the team going forward. Gasol, another guy they've talked about, appears to not be willing to take much of a paycut.

Unless you're talking about your bargain basement types that sign for a million, two million a year. Of course there's some of those guys still. But they'll go wherever he goes. Doesn't have to be Miami.

The chances of Gortat leaving for Miami were pretty much nil since he was looking for one last pay day and he loved being in DC and wasn't looking to leave.

[ojandpizza]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Miami was never going to be able to afford Gortat. The only shot was if he decided he really wanted a ring and left for a season or two to be underpaid. I don't think many ever expected it to be a possibility.


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[ex carrabba fan]

Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

Miami was never going to be able to afford Gortat. The only shot was if he decided he really wanted a ring and left for a season or two to be underpaid. I don't think many ever expected it to be a possibility.


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Neither was Lowry IMO