2014 Off-Season Thread

[redsrule]

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You can't make this stuff up with the Kings. They trade for Gay. Boot Thomas out of town and pay Collison the money instead. Now this

ESPN sources say Pistons and Kings on hunt for a third team to help facilitate deal but Sacramento continues to express interest in Smith

— Marc Stein (@ESPNSteinLine)

July 17, 2014

Please let this happen. I'll drive up to Michigan myself and take him to the airport.
They NEED to get rid of him.

[AC]

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Maybe they're trying to acquire as many chuckers as possible to limit the amount of shots each of them can take and making them more efficient? lol

[OSUFan_88]

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Gay and Smith on the same team may be the worst fit in NBA history.

Sacramento is in this constant loop of insanity. Just...absolute morons.

[King_B_Mack]

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Such bull**** man. So somebody will trade for this dude Josh Smith and his 14 million a year for the next three ****ing years and Phil can potentially get a deal together to ship out Amar'e and his 23 million dollar deal but Boozer's expiring 16.8 is unmovable? **** NBA GMs *kicks over a chair*


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[jeebs9]

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Such bull**** man. So somebody will trade for this dude Josh Smith and his 14 million a year for the next three ****ing years and Phil can potentially get a deal together to ship out Amar'e and his 23 million dollar deal but Boozer's expiring 16.8 is unmovable? **** NBA GMs *kicks over a chair*


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Isn't that crazy!!?

But I think Boozer is really really bad. I'd probably take Josh Smith out of the 3. But it might be a tie between Amare and Boozer lol.

Gay and Smith on the same team may be the worst fit in NBA history.

Sacramento is in this constant loop of insanity. Just...absolute morons.

I will never understand their moves.

[Rockie_Fresh88]

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My Lawd Gay-Smith-Cousins front court

Chucks and T's all year

[BlueNGold]

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Isn't that crazy!!?

But I think Boozer is really really bad. I'd probably take Josh Smith out of the 3. But it might be a tie between Amare and Boozer lol.



I will never understand their moves.

I would definitely take Josh over Amar'e and Boozer. I still feel like in the right situation with the right coaching he could redefine his game and become one of the better and most impactful players in the league.

[King_B_Mack]

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I would definitely take Josh over Amar'e and Boozer. I still feel like in the right situation with the right coaching he could redefine his game and become one of the better and most impactful players in the league.

Why do people still feel like this? Josh Smith is a knucklehead. Dude is about to be 29 years old in December. He is what he is. There's no salvaging him at this point. This dude is the case study for Russell Westbrook. Westbrook will be doing the same **** he does now at 29 and dudes will still be talking about the right situation turning it around for him. If you haven't solved maturity issues at this point in your life, you never will. Not while you have productive career years left anyway.

[BlueNGold]

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Why do people still feel like this? Josh Smith is a knucklehead. Dude is about to be 29 years old in December. He is what he is. There's no salvaging him at this point. This dude is the case study for Russell Westbrook. Westbrook will be doing the same **** he does now at 29 and dudes will still be talking about the right situation turning it around for him. If you haven't solved maturity issues at this point in your life, you never will. Not while you have productive career years left anyway.

Because we've seen guys salvage their careers countless times in the past.

When has he ever had a coach good enough to set him straight and get him playing right? Detroit was a complete mess last year and in Atlanta he had bad coaches plus he was put in the role of always being the second option at worst.

I feel like if he had a coach like Rivers, Thibodeau, Popp, Carlisle, etc and was on a team where there was actual leadership he would be great.

[King_B_Mack]

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Because we've seen guys salvage their careers countless times in the past.

When has he ever had a coach good enough to set him straight and get him playing right? Detroit was a complete mess last year and in Atlanta he had bad coaches plus he was put in the role of always being the second option at worst.

I feel like if he had a coach like Rivers, Thibodeau, Popp, Carlisle, etc and was on a team where there was actual leadership he would be great.

How many guys have we actually seen go from knucklehead to turning it all around though? Yeah, we see guys who had potential in their games but could never put it together or just overwhelmed by the NBA eventually come into their own put it together with a good coach, but how man knuckleheads suddenly aren't knuckleheads? And going to Sacramento certainly isn't going to solve Josh's problem.

Some of those guys, Doc, Thibs, Pop, they don't get through to every one all the time. Would it be nice to see if they can? Sure, but it's no guarantee that you just send somebody like Josh to them and he's suddenly okay. Even if they got him towards the right track, he still wouldn't be worth the 14 million a year he'd be getting. But bottomline, I don't think he's one of those dudes that can change who they are. He thinks he can shoot, so he'll continue building houses among other issues he has.

[ex carrabba fan]

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Definitely takes a special situation for Smith. If he didn't have such a ****ty contract maybe those special situations would have taken a chance on him but he has 3 more years at 13.5 million. Yikes.

[JODYE]

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The coach thing is relative though. Larry Drew wasn't a leader? Mike Woodson? Both of those guys coached teams that he was on to winning seasons. Everyone else seemingly bought in.

Who are other players with the on court mentality of Josh Smith that have been salvaged?

He is who he is, and he isn't going to change.

[The 24th Letter]

2014 Off-Season Thread

I think the difference with someone like Westbrook is that neutering his aggressiveness would also hurt what he brings to the team...that's something he'll have to develop internally and figure out

Josh Smith in a situation where he's not relied on heavily for offense...just play defense
rebound, and attack could really help a team IMO..

No doubt in my mind there are coaches out there that can all bit eliminate that long 2 from his game...

[BlueNGold]

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How many guys have we actually seen go from knucklehead to turning it all around though? Yeah, we see guys who had potential in their games but could never put it together or just overwhelmed by the NBA eventually come into their own put it together with a good coach, but how man knuckleheads suddenly aren't knuckleheads? And going to Sacramento certainly isn't going to solve Josh's problem.

Some of those guys, Doc, Thibs, Pop, they don't get through to every one all the time. Would it be nice to see if they can? Sure, but it's no guarantee that you just send somebody like Josh to them and he's suddenly okay. Even if they got him towards the right track, he still wouldn't be worth the 14 million a year he'd be getting. But bottomline, I don't think he's one of those dudes that can change who they are. He thinks he can shoot, so he'll continue building houses among other issues he has.

Zach Randolph is the first example that jumps to mind. Rasheed Wallace is probably another one.

Don't get me wrong though, I do agree that some guys are just lost causes no matter what the situation.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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I'd take Smith over Boozer at this point.

And an expiring contract by itself doesn't carry the same weight it used to. Otherwise if they did, guys like Boozer and Amar'e and anyone else with a year remaining on their contract would've gotten moved easily. GMs don't just want expiring contracts, they want more included in any deal.