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  • redsrule
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    • Apr 2010
    • 9396

    #6211
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by BlueNGold
    ****ing idiots. I swear.
    Why? Because they are trying to acquire a top 10 player? Dangling a guy that might become one? Kevin Love helps them win now.

    The Cavs don't have the cap space to sign him straight up I believe.
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    • cima
      Hall Of Fame
      • Sep 2004
      • 13478

      #6212
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by jeremym480
      Because if Love really wanted to go to Cleveland, then all he has to do is wait a year and he can play with Lebron and Wiggins. Love has all of the leverage because even if a team does come to Minnesota with a better offer, Love could refuse to sign an extension; and no other team is going to want to trade anything valuable for a one year rental. The Cavs likely aren't going to win it all next year anyway, so it's better to wait it out and keep Wiggins.

      Just my 02.
      Would they have enough cap room to sign him though?

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      • Vni
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2011
        • 14833

        #6213
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Love is really the ideal player next to Lebron. He puts 25 points and he barely touches the ball. I was enjoying the fact there was no real big three anymore in the league. It felt very balanced while it lasted lol.

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        • jeremym480
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          • Oct 2008
          • 18198

          #6214
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by Jimmy Waterhouse
          Would they have enough cap room to sign him though?
          I don't know, I haven't really looked at their cap situation. I would guess that Love would have to either take a discount or they would still have to do a sign and trade.
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          • redsrule
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            • Apr 2010
            • 9396

            #6215
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Wiggins, Thompson or Bennett, and a first is what I'm thinking. Keep either AB or TT to back Love up.
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            • 23
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              • Sep 2002
              • 66469

              #6216
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              If LeBron and Kyrie are maxed out im sure they can't outright sign him like that.

              At least not without giving up more players ala Houston

              ...and dang, if its true Brendan Haywood's contract is $10 million non guaranteed then they could make that work easy if Minny is looking for some cap relief to maybe sign Rubio to that max

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              • TheBrothers24
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                • Sep 2007
                • 1915

                #6217
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Why trade Wiggins now before they have to? At least give the team the first few months to see what they look like on the court together. Love will be there in Jan if you decide to trade for him. GSW/Boston isn't knocking down Minnesota's door or they would have traded for Love already. Also the longer the Cavs wait the more desperate Minnesota will be to get anything at all back for Love.

                No need to trade for Love right now & especially not right now if it means sending them Wiggins.
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                • redsrule
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                  • Apr 2010
                  • 9396

                  #6218
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by 23
                  If LeBron and Kyrie are maxed out im sure they can't outright sign him like that.

                  At least not without giving up more players ala Houston

                  ...and dang, if its true Brendan Haywood's contract is $10 million non guaranteed then they could make that work easy if Minny is looking for some cap relief to maybe sign Rubio to that max
                  Giving Rubio the max would be the most Minnesota thing ever. Other than drafting a PG after giving him the max.
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                  • ojandpizza
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                    • Apr 2011
                    • 29807

                    #6219
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    Wiggins AND someone else? HELL NO! that's a horrible move


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                    • wwharton
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                      • Aug 2002
                      • 26949

                      #6220
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by jeremym480
                      Because if Love really wanted to go to Cleveland, then all he has to do is wait a year and he can play with Lebron and Wiggins. Love has all of the leverage because even if a team does come to Minnesota with a better offer, Love could refuse to sign an extension; and no other team is going to want to trade anything valuable for a one year rental. The Cavs likely aren't going to win it all next year anyway, so it's better to wait it out and keep Wiggins.

                      Just my 02.
                      You don't even need the first sentence... if Love said "I want to play with Lebron" then no other team would offer them anything of value bc they know he wouldn't resign. Your last sentence is big too, bc they can wait Minnesota out if they want to.

                      Originally posted by Vni
                      Love is really the ideal player next to Lebron. He puts 25 points and he barely touches the ball. I was enjoying the fact there was no real big three anymore in the league. It felt very balanced while it lasted lol.
                      Bosh was a 25 and 10 guy before playing with James too. It doesn't mean Love isn't a good fit but his numbers are a bit inflated playing on the T'Wolves. Meanwhile he doesn't offer the defense that Bosh brought to the table. We could say "Well Bosh was never the rebounder Love is" but considering the shooters on the T'Wolves (looking at you, Rubio) Love had a lot of opportunities, and would/will have A LOT less rebound changes on a team with Lebron and sideshow Bob.

                      Definitely not saying they shouldn't try to get Love, but (I think oj has said this many times) he really doesn't add THAT MUCH to what they already have, while Wiggins (if he pans out) gives them exactly what they'd need... at a cheaper price. No way I'd trade Wiggins for Love... definitely wouldn't trade Wiggins "and pieces" for him.

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                      • SteelersFreak
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                        • May 2004
                        • 9582

                        #6221
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by Vni
                        Should Kings fans still have faith though?
                        They're pretty damn close to the breaking point of losing faith. I just felt like Hornets fans overreacted.
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                        • BlueNGold
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                          • Aug 2009
                          • 21817

                          #6222
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by redsrule
                          Why? Because they are trying to acquire a top 10 player? Dangling a guy that might become one? Kevin Love helps them win now.

                          The Cavs don't have the cap space to sign him straight up I believe.
                          I had a better response typed up but of course like an idiot I pressed one wrong button on my keyboard and lost it.

                          Anyways, this sums up a lot of my thoughts.

                          You know who else doesn’t need to make a move right away? The Cleveland Cavaliers! What’s the rush? Why do we have to finish our roster in July? What’s wrong with riding out the current nucleus for a few months, getting everyone in a training camp with LeBron, then seeing how everyone meshes with him?

                          What if Wiggins shows signs — day after day after day — of becoming the Pippen to LeBron’s MJ? What if LeBron is throwing him crazy alley-oops left and right and gushing, “I’ve always wanted to play with a freak athlete like this”?

                          What if Wiggins and LeBron are roaming around defensively like coyotes, stripping dudes at midcourt, jumping passing lines and basically looking like mid-1990s Pippen and MJ reincarnated?

                          What if sending Wiggins to Playing With LeBron Camp turned out to be the greatest thing that ever happened to Andrew Wiggins? What if this single-handedly altered his professional destiny? What if LeBron turned him into his basketball clone, much like Jordan brainwashed Pippen into evolving into his perfect sidekick?

                          Here’s the point: THE CAVALIERS HAVE TO FIND OUT. And they’ll know, or at least have a really good idea, by December or January.

                          And guess what. That same Wiggins-for-Love deal will still be sitting there after Christmas. None of the other 28 teams are trumping it. If it has to be done, then it has to be done — the Cavs can’t waste the rest of LeBron’s prime if Wiggins isn’t close to being ready yet, not with LeBron passing 40,000 career minutes during the first quarter of his first 2014 Cavs game. There’s a shelf life here. The Cavaliers can’t take their sweet time and wait for their supporting cast to catch up with the greatest player of his generation. They can’t.

                          At the same time, I need to see LeBron and the young’uns for a few months before I swing a mega-deal. I want to see how Kyrie Irving and Wiggins blend with LeBron — if they figure out how to run with him, space the floor for him, ease some of his playmaking burden and let HIM be the guy taking advantage of everyone else’s young legs for once. I want to see if Dion Waiters can become this generation’s Vinnie Johnson, a.k.a. Microwave 2.0. I want to see if Anderson Varejao can stay healthy for the first time since 1975, and I want to see if Tristan Thompson and Anthony Bennett jump a level because they’re suddenly playing with one of the league’s best passers.

                          I mean … is it OK that I see this for 45 to 50 games? Is that fine with everyone?
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                          • redsrule
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                            • Apr 2010
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                            #6223
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by BlueNGold
                            I had a better response typed up but of course like an idiot I pressed one wrong button on my keyboard and lost it.

                            Anyways, this sums up a lot of my thoughts.
                            I know that feeling. I've done that way too many times

                            They have a chance on getting one of the best players in the NBA. Wiggins could become a superstar, or he could become a bust and the Cavs would have missed out on one of the best players for a prospect. He could help win some championships in the future. Love can do that now while he is in his prime.
                            What lineup scares people more?
                            Kyrie-Wiggins (who's a natural 3)- LeBron-Thompson-Varaejo
                            or
                            Kyrie-Waiters-LeBron-Love-Varaejo?
                            For me it's the second one and it's not close. Love would help a lot against opposing teams bigs and if you have Thompson still it gives you a really good guy to come off the bench to help the team.

                            I personally think Wiggins needs to stay in Cleveland. LeBron would help him reach his potential better than anybody else imo.
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                            • TheShizNo1
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                              • Mar 2007
                              • 26341

                              #6224
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                              • ProfessaPackMan
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #6225
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                There's no need for Minnesota to move Love right now and there's no need for Cleveland to move Wiggins right now.

                                Hold pat until that time comes, which it will be very soon.
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