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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #6511
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    I honestly don't get the rush or the need to want to move Randle.

    It's like they really have no direction they want to go in other than "Oh, let's worry about making Kobe happy first and foremost".
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    • TheBrothers24
      SD/LA Chargers?
      • Sep 2007
      • 1915

      #6512
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      After the Boozer signing, the Lakers being dumb enough to trade Randle & a 1st for Bledsoe wouldn't surprise me.
      "This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli

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      • MattUM
        MVP
        • Aug 2013
        • 1051

        #6513
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Can't the Lakers just overpay Bledsoe? I didn't think PHX wanted to pay a whole lot & money is nothing to the Lakers.
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        • iLLosophy
          Plata o Plomo
          • Sep 2005
          • 3673

          #6514
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
          It's like they really have no direction they want to go in other than "Oh, let's worry about making Kobe happy first and foremost".
          You actually believe the "100% honesty" comment?

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852

            #6515
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Come on now, what type of question is that? Lol
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            • TheBrothers24
              SD/LA Chargers?
              • Sep 2007
              • 1915

              #6516
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Originally posted by MattUM
              Can't the Lakers just overpay Bledsoe? I didn't think PHX wanted to pay a whole lot & money is nothing to the Lakers.
              I don't know how much cap they have left to sign him. I don't think Hill or Young have signed their contracts yet, so they may have enough to offer more than the 12 mil Phoenix was offering. Then they can just resign Young & Hill after & go over the luxury tax line. If they haven't signed already but Hill's cap hold may be too large for my scenario to happen.
              "This is for all of my peoples who understand and truly recognize. Some won't get it and for that i won't apologize"- Talib Kweli

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              • MattUM
                MVP
                • Aug 2013
                • 1051

                #6517
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Just looked, they don't got **** to offer lol. I forgot how bad Lin and Nash's contracts were.
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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #6518
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by MattUM
                  Can't the Lakers just overpay Bledsoe? I didn't think PHX wanted to pay a whole lot & money is nothing to the Lakers.
                  Perfect time for this.



                  Committed salary for 2014/15: $46,403,492 (view full forecast)

                  Remaining cap space: A dollop, maybe (see below)


                  After striking out on the big names, the Lakers acquired Jeremy Lin and signed their draft pick, Julius Randle. That will frankly be the bulk of their business. The situation they have is thus:

                  Kobe Bryant - $23,500,000
                  Steve Nash - $9,701,000
                  Jeremy Lin - $8,374,646
                  Julius Randle - $2.997,360
                  Kendall Marshall - $915,243
                  Robert Sacre - $915,243

                  Jordan Hill* - $6,770,840
                  MarShon Brooks* - $2,179,354
                  Ryan Kelly* - $1,016,482
                  Kent Bazemore* - $915,243
                  Andrew Goudelock* - $915,243
                  Xavier Henry* - $915,243
                  Wesley Johnson* - $915,243
                  Nick Young* - $915,243


                  Those contracts and cap holds total $60,946,383. Hill and Young are going to re-sign with the team, but the Lakers have only non-Bird rights on Young, which would limit them to a contract starting at only 120% of the minimum were they to use them, which is not nearly enough for this purpose. So they will have to re-sign Young using the cap space they have remaining, and any more they open up.

                  They will open up a shred more through renouncements alone, albeit not huge amounts, since only Hill has a big hold. They can re-sign Hill with Bird rights, but only if they don't renounce him, thus his cap hold must sustain. In practice, Bazemore's cap hold will be removed when he joins Atlanta, Brooks and Goudelock will be renounced, and then Young will be re-signed. That leaves this:

                  Kobe Bryant - $23,500,000
                  Steve Nash - $9,701,000
                  Jeremy Lin - $8,374,646
                  Julius Randle - $2,997,360
                  Kendall Marshall - $915,243
                  Robert Sacre - $915,243

                  Jordan Hill* - $6,770,840
                  Ryan Kelly* - $1,016,482
                  Xavier Henry* - $915,243
                  Wesley Johnson* - $915,243
                  Roster charge - $507,336
                  Roster charge - $507,336

                  Total = $57,035,972 = $6,029,028

                  Let's say Young's four year $21 million reported agreed contract starts at $4.9 million with maximum 4.5% raises totalling $20,923,000. Take the $4.9 million out of that $6,029,028, then add back the amount of one less roster charge. That leaves $1,636,364 in cap room. You could add $200,000 to that amount by rescinding Kelly's QO, $509,146 by rescinding Kelly's QO and also renouncing him, and $407,907 for renouncements of each of Henry and Johnson. If all free agents other than Hill are renounced, then, the Lakers could re-sign Young for $4.9 million, have $2,961,324 more in cap space for someone else, and then still have the cap room mid-level exception to offer someone else. And they could do all this before re-signing Hill and adding Ed Davis at the minimum salary.

                  At least one more small move left in the gun, then. Potentially one big move in the gun if the stretch provision is used on Nash, but that's not conducive to a 2015 plan and ought not be expected.

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                  • ex carrabba fan
                    I'll thank him for you
                    • Oct 2004
                    • 32744

                    #6519
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    Good stuff King.

                    Ryan Kelly is returning on a 2 year deal and Wes Johnson is also returning on a one year deal worth 1 million

                    I didn't realize the Lakers still had the MLE, though there is nobody left worth paying that.

                    Bledsoe is so overhyped to me but that doesn't mean I don't think he's a valuable player. I have always been split on Randle's potential, still am after Summer League. I wouldn't be opposed to trading him for Bledsoe but keeping Randle also wouldn't be a bad move.

                    The Lakers should get at least 35 wins next year, it'll be interesting to monitor Bryant all year as they continue to lose as many as they win. They'd compete for a spot in the east but have no chance in the west.

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                    • Vni
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2011
                      • 14833

                      #6520
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Where does this bledsoe for randle rumour come from?

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                      • ex carrabba fan
                        I'll thank him for you
                        • Oct 2004
                        • 32744

                        #6521
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Some guy named Jordan Schultz on Twitter

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                        • Vni
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2011
                          • 14833

                          #6522
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                          Some guy named Jordan Schultz on Twitter
                          He has great ears it seems because he hears a lot of things.

                          Is he reliable because I have a hard time believing the Lakers are willing to offer Randle for Bledsoe.

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                          • ex carrabba fan
                            I'll thank him for you
                            • Oct 2004
                            • 32744

                            #6523
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Me personally, there's no way I'm offering Bledsoe a max extension regardless. That's what he's looking for...

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                            • Vni
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Sep 2011
                              • 14833

                              #6524
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Originally posted by turty11
                              i see LAL wants to be just good enough to not make the playoffs, yet finish to well for them to keep their own pick.
                              Well, Lakers will never go into a season to tank even if that means being mediocre for now. No teams should ever go into a season hoping to finish bottom 5.

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                              • Caveman24
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2011
                                • 1352

                                #6525
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Can't trade Jordan Hill till January and Randle till next month. Once again another slow day at the ESPN office.
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