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    • Aug 2005
    • 1165

    #6616
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Originally posted by ojandpizza
    I completely disagree that just because guys like Hayward and Parsons got big deals that everyone just needs to start getting overpaid..

    What is a max for Klay even worth, 16 a year or something? So just below Durant, Rose, Blake, on par with ZBo and Aldridge, more than Paul George, Marc Gasol, Love, Westbrook, Lopez, Wade, Wall, Harden, and a long list of other players?

    No way in hell is he worth that, and even if some people do consider him "all star caliber" he's not even in the same ball park as the guys he's going to be getting paid more than. Franchise players..

    What does being a "2 way player" even mean in this case. It's not like he's a great scorer and a great defender.. Are we seriously going to over praise him just because he's slightly above average at both? lol.. He doesn't contribute anything else to stat sheets, isn't a big rebounder, isn't a playmaker, doesn't get to the free throw line, production drops during the playoffs... Etc

    I just don't get it.. Guys like Martin, Johnson, Ellis, they've been doing what Klay does for years now. They also have the ability to create for themselves, and others, and do more than hit perimeter shots offensively.. Should they all be getting max money too? Well Joe already is but he's proven his worth in the playoffs.

    He's a great secondary scorer to Curry, that's honestly it. Hell even Nick Young and Jamal Crawford match his scoring output while coming off the bench.. Nothing Klay is doing is so impressive that we need to automatically label him a top 5 shooting guard and make him 3rd highest paid SG in the league.


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    Not saying the Parsons and Hayward deals mean he SHOULD be paid that, saying they mean he WILL be paid that.

    Remember, it only takes one team to look at all the factors involved and say its worth a shot. You take a team like Minnesota and what do they have to lose throwing him a deal hoping he turns into the star they don't have (if/when Love leaves)? Are they wasting cap space? No one is signing there.

    In an ideal world the only players receiving 15+ would be franchise guys, but that's not how it works. In the last 4-5 years we've seen tons of teams throw big money at young players that were risks and unproven on the wing hoping to find a star. Potential gets paid.

    Toronto with Derozan, Phoenix and New Orleans with Gordon, Charlotte and Utah with Hayward, Dallas with Parsons, New Orleans with Evans, Boston with Green... All of these are examples of teams paying over "what market value should be" for young wing players hoping they show promise. And the numbers have only gotten higher this offseason with Parsons and Hayward. That's just how this system works.

    You may not believe in Thompson. To be honest I don't really believe in Thompson. But you can see the reasons why he could get paid and that's enough. It only takes one to look at the same reasons and deduct its worth the risk, and for a lot of teams its a risk they have to take.
    Last edited by 702; 07-22-2014, 02:46 AM.

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    • jeebs9
      Fear is the Unknown
      • Oct 2008
      • 47568

      #6617
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      What's the deal with Ray Allen?
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      • BlueNGold
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2009
        • 21817

        #6618
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by jeebs9
        What's the deal with Ray Allen?
        Probably still debating on whether he's going to play one more year with LeBron or retire.
        Originally posted by bradtxmale
        I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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        • BlueNGold
          Hall Of Fame
          • Aug 2009
          • 21817

          #6619
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by The 24th Letter
          I really, really agree with Simmons here
          Originally posted by King_B_Mack
          They should have let him back just so we could see his reaction to LeBron leaving Miami.



          Bill Simmons is still an idiot. That 900,000 they didn't pay Parsons wouldn't have kept them from landing Bosh or Carmelo. They would have still had the room to give them a max and kept Parsons without having to overpay him 15 million. Morey got lucky that OKC was stupid enough to basically trade Harden for Perkins and Dwight to be stupid enough to opt into a contract with a team he didn't want to be on and Kobe being Kobe. Props to him for getting Duh to sign on there for less, no doubt. But overpaying Lin and Asik and landing Ariza now isn't cause to jump out and say that people were overreacting with the backlash of this year. He ****ed up plain and simple and couldn't luck his way out of this one. We'll see if he can bounce back, but I doubt it, because he'll be swinging for the fences in FA again next year and the year after I'm certain.
          Just to clarify, Simmons didn't write that. It was Andrew Sharp.
          Originally posted by bradtxmale
          I like 6 inches. Its not too thin and not too thick. You get the support your body needs.



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          • cavsfan2
            MVP
            • Aug 2010
            • 3902

            #6620
            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

            Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo · 4m
            Cavs to sign No. 1 pick Andrew Wiggins to a standard 2-year rookie contract with two option years,source told Yahoo. @twithersAP broke

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            • ex carrabba fan
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              • Oct 2004
              • 32744

              #6621
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Originally posted by cavsfan2
              Marc J. Spears @SpearsNBAYahoo · 4m
              Cavs to sign No. 1 pick Andrew Wiggins to a standard 2-year rookie contract with two option years,source told Yahoo. @twithersAP broke
              This mean he can't be traded for Love? Or at least temporarily

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              • cavsfan2
                MVP
                • Aug 2010
                • 3902

                #6622
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by ex carrabba fan
                This mean he can't be traded for Love? Or at least temporarily
                For 30 days I believe

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #6623
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by BlueNGold
                  Just to clarify, Simmons didn't write that. It was Andrew Sharp.
                  Statement stands. Simmons is an idiot lol

                  And yes, Wiggins can't be traded for 30 days at least.

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                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                    • Dec 2006
                    • 17294

                    #6624
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    ESPN - Bulls making renewed push to get into trade mix for Timberwolves All-Star Kevin Love - sources
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                    • cavsfan2
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                      • Aug 2010
                      • 3902

                      #6625
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                      ESPN - Bulls making renewed push to get into trade mix for Timberwolves All-Star Kevin Love - sources
                      Not sure how they can make a more attractive deal than the Cavs or warriors, unless Noah or Rose is part of the deal, which simply won't happen.

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                      • Rockie_Fresh88
                        Lockdown Defender
                        • Oct 2011
                        • 9621

                        #6626
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by cavsfan2
                        Not sure how they can make a more attractive deal than the Cavs or warriors, unless Noah or Rose is part of the deal, which simply won't happen.
                        Why would they even want too is the better question
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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                          • Dec 2006
                          • 17294

                          #6627
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by cavsfan2
                          Not sure how they can make a more attractive deal than the Cavs or warriors, unless Noah or Rose is part of the deal, which simply won't happen.

                          Supposedly Minnesota wants pieces they can win with right away, so Cleveland's offer wouldn't really be all that attractive unless they include Wiggins whose just too good a prospect to turn down.

                          Barnes and David Lee (potentially Klay) versus Gibson, Butler, Mirotic, and draft picks. Idk.
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                          • turty11
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                            • Apr 2013
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                            #6628
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            lol @ chicago ... you may as well just ship off d-rose and noah too...
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                            • ojandpizza
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                              • Apr 2011
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                              #6629
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              They want pieces they can win with now? They weren't even winning with Love lol


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                              • Yeah...THAT Guy
                                Once in a Lifetime Memory
                                • Dec 2006
                                • 17294

                                #6630
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                                They want pieces they can win with now? They weren't even winning with Love lol


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                                That's what Flip has said lol
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