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  • AntiBandwagoner
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    • Jan 2013
    • 963

    #7186
    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

    Heat signed Shawne Williams. Is there any reason to care? Nope.

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    • ojandpizza
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      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #7187
      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

      Originally posted by redsrule
      Them giving Kyrie the max hurts them more than giving Love the max. Love is a max type player, Kyrie isn't.

      Not really, Kyrie's first 3 years in the league are just as good as Love's were. Plus he signed before any of this "return" stuff happened, he was their franchise player. Kyrie gets a lot of crap, and I guess rightfully so for the money he just got, but not many players in the league at 21 years old are as gifted as Kyrie. Honestly I think paired with LeBron people's perception of him is going to change big time this next season. I might be eating huge crow for saying that, but he's always looked great playing amongst good talent and when he's playing for a purpose rather than knowing he's playing for another lottery pick.

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      • jpshua15
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        • Jul 2012
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        #7188
        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

        Originally posted by AntiBandwagoner
        Heat signed Shawne Williams. Is there any reason to care? Nope.

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        • OSUFan_88
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          • Jul 2004
          • 25642

          #7189
          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

          Originally posted by ojandpizza
          I just wish one person on here could tell me what Love is brining this team that they NEED. Rather than "Love is a superstar", "Love is a top 10 player", "Love helps them win now"..
          Elite rebounding, proficient and efficient low post scoring, ability to stretch the floor, ability to have flexibility in offense, another passing big, a guy who can take the scoring load off of LeBron...

          How many needs do you want?
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          • TMagic
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            • Apr 2007
            • 7550

            #7190
            2014 Off-Season Thread

            Originally posted by ojandpizza
            I just wish one person on here could tell me what Love is brining this team that they NEED. Rather than "Love is a superstar", "Love is a top 10 player", "Love helps them win now".. We all realize that, but this is seriously becoming "hey let's add a star just because he's a star". Which doesn't make any sense to me.. Let's just say they trade for Love and win it all. What if Love is satisfied once he became a champion and left for LA? Or what if they lose and he's mad because he really believed playing with LeBron would get him a ring and leaves for LA? Or, what if he doesn't like taking a statistical hit, a superstar status hit, becoming a 3rd offensive option, so he leaves? Nobody knows how Love will handle this situation, also nobody knows if he can even stay healthy, or how well of a player he actually is when he isn't getting a touch every single trip up the court..

            I'm going to just throw out

            Obviously that's just some random trade I pulled out of my *** and likely would never happen. The point I'm trying to make is a team with LeBron, Kyrie, Waiters/Wiggins, doesn't need another star just to look cool on paper.. With the money they are going to spend to get and keep Love they can more than replace his value all while becoming arguably the deepest team in the entire league. If you can match the depth of a team like San Antonio, where you have subs who come in without taking a hit, and you add LeBron James on top of it, you are in a much better situation than you are having 3 big names on the back of your jerseys.

            Im in the camp that Superstars win championships.

            You cite San Antonio. But they have 3 stars of their own (4 counting Kawhi). The Heat have won the last two prior. Ill say that Dallas is the exception to the rule (Dirk was just amazing that year). Prior to that, the Lakers and Celtics were both loaded with Star power.

            Point is, history shows that talent wins.

            Adding a third "go to guy" pays dividends. As Ive mentioned before, Love wouldnt necessarily be needed every night. But those other nights where a typical "Love kinda night" is in order for them to win matters. Especially in the playoffs where every game counts. That one game could be the difference between being eliminated or advancing.

            Having 3 Stars makes your team very tough to beat.

            If a team only has 1 guy (Minnesota-Love) and he doesnt have his best game, they probably arent winning that game.

            If a team has two guys (Oklahoma-Russ/Durant), they can afford for one guy to have a night off. They still have another guy capable of carrying the scoring load and getting the W. But when both guys are off, they lose.

            Having three Stars, its highly unlikely that ALL 3, will be off in a game. That makes a team tough to beat because any one of those guys can have single handedly win them the game.

            Just look back to when the Bulls faced the Heat in the playoffs. I think the Bulls had the best record. Rose was MVP. They had good coaching and good role players. Played the best defense in the league.

            But with Rose neutralized, they could not keep up with the Heat. I remember all three had their shining moments in that series. So even if Lebron wasnt playing like the best player on the planet, they were too much for the Bulls and their reliance on Rose and his scoring on the offensive end. That series is the perfect example.

            History shows that star power wins championships.

            And thats without even going into how valuable it is to have someone you can run the offense through on the block. Or if injuries hit.
            Last edited by TMagic; 08-01-2014, 08:20 PM.
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            • OSUFan_88
              Outback Jesus
              • Jul 2004
              • 25642

              #7191
              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

              Originally posted by wwharton
              Anything's possible... but that wasn't the question.
              You are asking me for a guarantee, and I'm not sure I'm willing to give you that.

              On paper, barring injury, chemistry issues, and rookie coaching issues, I don't see a team that would be capable of stopping Irving, James, Love from winning a title.
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              • redsrule
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                • Apr 2010
                • 9396

                #7192
                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                You are asking me for a guarantee, and I'm not sure I'm willing to give you that.

                On paper, barring injury, chemistry issues, and rookie coaching issues, I don't see a team that would be capable of stopping Irving, James, Love from winning a title.
                How about the team that just obliterated a LeBron led team and resigned all their guys + got an awesome player for their system in the draft?

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                • OSUFan_88
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                  • Jul 2004
                  • 25642

                  #7193
                  Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                  Originally posted by redsrule
                  How about the team that just obliterated a LeBron led team and resigned all their guys + got an awesome player for their system in the draft?

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                  Well, if you want my honest opinion, the Cavs team this coming year would likely do the same thing to that Heat team. It looked old, slow, and got severely outcoached.

                  Obviously the Spurs could beat them. But...I don't know, on paper, I'd probably still pick the Cavs but I'd be willing to admit I could be a huge homer in this case.

                  It'd be a good series. I hope I can see it.
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                  • redsrule
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                    • Apr 2010
                    • 9396

                    #7194
                    Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                    I think they could definitely win and would be right there with San Antonio if they got Love., I just don't see how anyone would easily beat that San Antonio team unless there is some major regression/injuries.


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                    • EAGLESFAN10
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2011
                      • 2338

                      #7195
                      Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                      I'm just watching this Blue vs White USA game and I'm just thought about the talent in the Central Division

                      LeBron James - Cavs
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                      Andre Drummond - Pistons
                      Greg Monroe - Pistons
                      Tristan Thompson - Cavs
                      Doug McDormett - Cavs
                      Taj Gibson - Bulls
                      David West - Pacers
                      Rodney Stuckey - Pacers

                      Pacers , Cavs , and Bulls Games will be bad blood I can see it already

                      But the match ups we will be able to see will be Great
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                      • OSUFan_88
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                        • Jul 2004
                        • 25642

                        #7196
                        Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                        Originally posted by redsrule
                        I think they could definitely win and would be right there with San Antonio if they got Love., I just don't see how anyone would easily beat that San Antonio team unless there is some major regression/injuries.


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                        Easily? Who said easily?
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                        • redsrule
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                          • Apr 2010
                          • 9396

                          #7197
                          Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                          Originally posted by OSUFan_88
                          Easily? Who said easily?
                          You said barring those problems you don't see a term being able to stop the Cavs. I took that as easy, my bad.

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                          • OSUFan_88
                            Outback Jesus
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 25642

                            #7198
                            Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                            Originally posted by redsrule
                            You said barring those problems you don't see a term being able to stop the Cavs. I took that as easy, my bad.

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                            I do think the Spurs are the only team that could beat that Cavaliers team. Not many teams would matchup or be able to stop the Cavs enough times on the offensive end. Spurs could.

                            If the Cavaliers end up getting Love, the Cavs will be one giant matchup nightmare for nearly every team in the NBA.
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                            • z Revis
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                              • Oct 2008
                              • 13639

                              #7199
                              Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                              Like I said before, give Wiggins some time to show what he can do. There's no need to trade for Love right now. No other team is a threat to get him at this point. If Wiggins comes out balling and looks like the real deal, they could have their own "big 3" with Wiggins on a rookie contract. Much better than having Love, Bron, and Kyrie tied up in max contracts with not much depth.
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                              • turty11
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                                • Apr 2013
                                • 8923

                                #7200
                                Re: 2014 Off-Season Thread

                                lance gone, and now PG prob out the season..does hibbert get moved now?
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