These are Mac's real choices (Vescey was half right)

**Skins4Life** · 05-31-2004, 10:56 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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jt45 said:
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Skins4Life said:
I dont see Artest and JO getting traded.

I think Al may get traded, and Tinsley may, although Donnie Walsh has always liked his game and wants to let him grow. I also dont think Bender will get traded, as this team, namely DW is really high on him, hence his big contract extension.

I dont pretend to be a gm, cause half of my "proposed" trades would have backfired on me, but DW seems to know what he is doing, and I think he is in the top 3 for GM's in the league, so I never doubt him.

It will be interesting to see how this off season works out

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Doesn't Larry Bird call the shots for Indiana now?

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I dont know for sure. I read somewhere, but you may be right. I think one is taking care of the players, while one is doing more of the "managment". Either way, it will be interesting to see the way it works out

**jt45** · 05-31-2004, 11:04 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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Skins4Life said:
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jt45 said:
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Skins4Life said:
I dont see Artest and JO getting traded.

I think Al may get traded, and Tinsley may, although Donnie Walsh has always liked his game and wants to let him grow. I also dont think Bender will get traded, as this team, namely DW is really high on him, hence his big contract extension.

I dont pretend to be a gm, cause half of my "proposed" trades would have backfired on me, but DW seems to know what he is doing, and I think he is in the top 3 for GM's in the league, so I never doubt him.

It will be interesting to see how this off season works out

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Doesn't Larry Bird call the shots for Indiana now?

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I dont know for sure. I read somewhere, but you may be right. I think one is taking care of the players, while one is doing more of the "managment". Either way, it will be interesting to see the way it works out

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I think they hired Bird to take over because Walsh is on the verge of retiring and is try to back out slowly.

**jt45** · 05-31-2004, 11:04 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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Skins4Life said:
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jt45 said:
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Skins4Life said:
I dont see Artest and JO getting traded.

I think Al may get traded, and Tinsley may, although Donnie Walsh has always liked his game and wants to let him grow. I also dont think Bender will get traded, as this team, namely DW is really high on him, hence his big contract extension.

I dont pretend to be a gm, cause half of my "proposed" trades would have backfired on me, but DW seems to know what he is doing, and I think he is in the top 3 for GM's in the league, so I never doubt him.

It will be interesting to see how this off season works out

<hr /></blockquote>

Doesn't Larry Bird call the shots for Indiana now?

<hr /></blockquote>

I dont know for sure. I read somewhere, but you may be right. I think one is taking care of the players, while one is doing more of the "managment". Either way, it will be interesting to see the way it works out

<hr /></blockquote>

I think they hired Bird to take over because Walsh is on the verge of retiring and is try to back out slowly.

**jt45** · 05-31-2004, 11:04 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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Skins4Life said:
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jt45 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Skins4Life said:
I dont see Artest and JO getting traded.

I think Al may get traded, and Tinsley may, although Donnie Walsh has always liked his game and wants to let him grow. I also dont think Bender will get traded, as this team, namely DW is really high on him, hence his big contract extension.

I dont pretend to be a gm, cause half of my "proposed" trades would have backfired on me, but DW seems to know what he is doing, and I think he is in the top 3 for GM's in the league, so I never doubt him.

It will be interesting to see how this off season works out

<hr /></blockquote>

Doesn't Larry Bird call the shots for Indiana now?

<hr /></blockquote>

I dont know for sure. I read somewhere, but you may be right. I think one is taking care of the players, while one is doing more of the "managment". Either way, it will be interesting to see the way it works out

<hr /></blockquote>

I think they hired Bird to take over because Walsh is on the verge of retiring and is try to back out slowly.

**fsquid** · 05-31-2004, 11:44 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

**fsquid** · 05-31-2004, 11:44 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

**fsquid** · 05-31-2004, 11:44 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

23 · 05-31-2004, 11:55 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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fsquid said:
Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

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Yes, but his team is talking about rebuilding. I don't think he wants to rebuild. He just wants to win. The Magic haven't done a thing to say they'll improve much. The only thing hockeyman said was Mac better make a decision by July 1st or else.

23 · 05-31-2004, 11:55 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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fsquid said:
Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

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Yes, but his team is talking about rebuilding. I don't think he wants to rebuild. He just wants to win. The Magic haven't done a thing to say they'll improve much. The only thing hockeyman said was Mac better make a decision by July 1st or else.

23 · 05-31-2004, 11:55 AM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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fsquid said:
Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, but his team is talking about rebuilding. I don't think he wants to rebuild. He just wants to win. The Magic haven't done a thing to say they'll improve much. The only thing hockeyman said was Mac better make a decision by July 1st or else.

**Skins4Life** · 05-31-2004, 12:18 PM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

how about his, yes, I am bored

Indiana trades: PF Austin Croshere (5.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Jonathan Bender (7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.9 minutes)
PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 30.9 minutes)
PG Fred Jones (4.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 18.6 minutes)
Indiana receives: C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.1 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +18.0 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +3.2 apg.

Orlando trades: C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.1 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
Orlando receives: PF Austin Croshere (5.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 77 games)
SF Jonathan Bender (7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 21 games)
PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 79 games)
PG Fred Jones (4.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 81 games)
Change in team outlook: -18.0 ppg, -4.4 rpg, and -3.2 apg.

**Skins4Life** · 05-31-2004, 12:18 PM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

how about his, yes, I am bored

Indiana trades: PF Austin Croshere (5.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Jonathan Bender (7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.9 minutes)
PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 30.9 minutes)
PG Fred Jones (4.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 18.6 minutes)
Indiana receives: C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.1 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +18.0 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +3.2 apg.

Orlando trades: C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.1 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
Orlando receives: PF Austin Croshere (5.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 77 games)
SF Jonathan Bender (7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 21 games)
PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 79 games)
PG Fred Jones (4.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 81 games)
Change in team outlook: -18.0 ppg, -4.4 rpg, and -3.2 apg.

**Skins4Life** · 05-31-2004, 12:18 PM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

how about his, yes, I am bored

Indiana trades: PF Austin Croshere (5.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 13.7 minutes)
SF Jonathan Bender (7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 12.9 minutes)
PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 30.9 minutes)
PG Fred Jones (4.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 18.6 minutes)
Indiana receives: C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.1 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
Change in team outlook: +18.0 ppg, +4.4 rpg, and +3.2 apg.

Orlando trades: C Andrew DeClercq (3.2 ppg, 4.5 rpg, 0.6 apg in 17.1 minutes)
PF Juwan Howard (17.0 ppg, 7.0 rpg, 2.0 apg in 35.5 minutes)
SG Tracy McGrady (28.0 ppg, 6.0 rpg, 5.5 apg in 39.9 minutes)
Orlando receives: PF Austin Croshere (5.0 ppg, 3.2 rpg, 0.7 apg in 77 games)
SF Jonathan Bender (7.0 ppg, 1.9 rpg, 0.4 apg in 21 games)
PF Al Harrington (13.3 ppg, 6.4 rpg, 1.7 apg in 79 games)
PG Fred Jones (4.9 ppg, 1.6 rpg, 2.1 apg in 81 games)
Change in team outlook: -18.0 ppg, -4.4 rpg, and -3.2 apg.

**fsquid** · 05-31-2004, 12:29 PM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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KDRE said:
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fsquid said:
Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

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Yes, but his team is talking about rebuilding. I don't think he wants to rebuild. He just wants to win. The Magic haven't done a thing to say they'll improve much. The only thing hockeyman said was Mac better make a decision by July 1st or else.

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then wait until your FA year.

**fsquid** · 05-31-2004, 12:29 PM

Re: These are Mac\'s real choices (Vescey was half right)

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KDRE said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
fsquid said:
Wow, T-MAC doesn't want to wait on a high schooler to develop?? Hmmm, I think the kid forgot that once he was that high schooler than needed time.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yes, but his team is talking about rebuilding. I don't think he wants to rebuild. He just wants to win. The Magic haven't done a thing to say they'll improve much. The only thing hockeyman said was Mac better make a decision by July 1st or else.

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then wait until your FA year.

These are Mac's real choices (Vescey was half right)

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