How good is Kobe?

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:17 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

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Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do.

<hr /></blockquote>Like what?

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Go find out. If you don't know what MJ accomplished, you shouldn't have started this thread. In your defence, though... Kobe has a lot of legs left.

<hr /></blockquote>we spell defense with an "S" in the United States. Shut up youngsta. You haven't a clue. I don't need anyone to defend me. He said MJ did things that Kobe will never be able to do. Hell, i'm sure that he'll always be able to put the ball in the basket at will. He's showing signs of being able to have his way now.

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MJ did things Dr J didn't do. If He was playing the 86 Celtics, or the 89 Pistons, you know you;d see him get whooped on and not scoring 30 or 40.

**Leon** · 06-09-2004, 12:17 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

Ummm, if I remember correctly, 8 threes in a half.

**Leon** · 06-09-2004, 12:17 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

Ummm, if I remember correctly, 8 threes in a half.

**Leon** · 06-09-2004, 12:17 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

Ummm, if I remember correctly, 8 threes in a half.

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:18 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

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Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

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Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

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Yea but.. T-Mac, Sprewell, all had similar performances. The 3-point line wasn't established until Michael's last year at ND (I think).

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Read up!!!

All I did was tell you something Kobe did that Jordan didn't. You were talking about what Jordan did. And Tmac never had a similar game. Sprewell did though.

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Actually Mac did. He had a game of 8 straight 3's this past season if I recall correctly.

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:18 AM

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LedouxRoc said:
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KDRE said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

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Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

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Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

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Yea but.. T-Mac, Sprewell, all had similar performances. The 3-point line wasn't established until Michael's last year at ND (I think).

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Read up!!!

All I did was tell you something Kobe did that Jordan didn't. You were talking about what Jordan did. And Tmac never had a similar game. Sprewell did though.

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Actually Mac did. He had a game of 8 straight 3's this past season if I recall correctly.

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:18 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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LedouxRoc said:
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noa999 said:
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LedouxRoc said:
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KDRE said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

<hr /></blockquote>

Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yea but.. T-Mac, Sprewell, all had similar performances. The 3-point line wasn't established until Michael's last year at ND (I think).

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Read up!!!

All I did was tell you something Kobe did that Jordan didn't. You were talking about what Jordan did. And Tmac never had a similar game. Sprewell did though.

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Actually Mac did. He had a game of 8 straight 3's this past season if I recall correctly.

**2012** · 06-09-2004, 12:19 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

There's more to basketball than being an athlete.

IMO, Pierce is every bit the player that T-mac is. BTW, That is bs that Pierce and TMAc are double or tripled. MOst of the time, they play a strict one on one game. I've watched many games and never see three guys triple teaming T-mac. Those teams run iso plays and they go to the rack one on one.

NOw, Kobe is in a league of his own. He's being doubled and trapped off of screen roll. Most teams in the west have died because they don't believe that fisher, fox, rice, horry, rush can hit those open shots. Who's getting them those open shots, Kobe off the high screen. Guys are wide open all over the court.

Just think of the things we have yet to see, we've never seen kobe run guys off of multiple screens (ala T-mac, Rip, Reggie), we don't even see kobe in the low post (like MJ), we don't see kobe running the wing on the break (the lakers are a half court team).

As shaq gets older, we will see the lakers start to actually run plays for Bryant. Bryant is still an immature player. He's squeezing shots off just to take shots. He's standing at the three point line while his teammates have trouble feeding a simple post entry pass to Shaq. How many times do you see kobe get thrown the ball with 5 seconds left on the shot clock for the bail out shot. Like every 3rd offensive set. You run that kid some plays and he will be jordanesque.

**2012** · 06-09-2004, 12:19 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

There's more to basketball than being an athlete.

IMO, Pierce is every bit the player that T-mac is. BTW, That is bs that Pierce and TMAc are double or tripled. MOst of the time, they play a strict one on one game. I've watched many games and never see three guys triple teaming T-mac. Those teams run iso plays and they go to the rack one on one.

NOw, Kobe is in a league of his own. He's being doubled and trapped off of screen roll. Most teams in the west have died because they don't believe that fisher, fox, rice, horry, rush can hit those open shots. Who's getting them those open shots, Kobe off the high screen. Guys are wide open all over the court.

Just think of the things we have yet to see, we've never seen kobe run guys off of multiple screens (ala T-mac, Rip, Reggie), we don't even see kobe in the low post (like MJ), we don't see kobe running the wing on the break (the lakers are a half court team).

As shaq gets older, we will see the lakers start to actually run plays for Bryant. Bryant is still an immature player. He's squeezing shots off just to take shots. He's standing at the three point line while his teammates have trouble feeding a simple post entry pass to Shaq. How many times do you see kobe get thrown the ball with 5 seconds left on the shot clock for the bail out shot. Like every 3rd offensive set. You run that kid some plays and he will be jordanesque.

**2012** · 06-09-2004, 12:19 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

There's more to basketball than being an athlete.

IMO, Pierce is every bit the player that T-mac is. BTW, That is bs that Pierce and TMAc are double or tripled. MOst of the time, they play a strict one on one game. I've watched many games and never see three guys triple teaming T-mac. Those teams run iso plays and they go to the rack one on one.

NOw, Kobe is in a league of his own. He's being doubled and trapped off of screen roll. Most teams in the west have died because they don't believe that fisher, fox, rice, horry, rush can hit those open shots. Who's getting them those open shots, Kobe off the high screen. Guys are wide open all over the court.

Just think of the things we have yet to see, we've never seen kobe run guys off of multiple screens (ala T-mac, Rip, Reggie), we don't even see kobe in the low post (like MJ), we don't see kobe running the wing on the break (the lakers are a half court team).

As shaq gets older, we will see the lakers start to actually run plays for Bryant. Bryant is still an immature player. He's squeezing shots off just to take shots. He's standing at the three point line while his teammates have trouble feeding a simple post entry pass to Shaq. How many times do you see kobe get thrown the ball with 5 seconds left on the shot clock for the bail out shot. Like every 3rd offensive set. You run that kid some plays and he will be jordanesque.

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:20 AM

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noa999 said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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KDRE said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do.

<hr /></blockquote>Like what?

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Go find out. If you don't know what MJ accomplished, you shouldn't have started this thread. In your defence, though... Kobe has a lot of legs left.

<hr /></blockquote>we spell defense with an "S" in the United States. Shut up youngsta. You haven't a clue. I don't need anyone to defend me. He said MJ did things that Kobe will never be able to do. Hell, i'm sure that he'll always be able to put the ball in the basket at will. He's showing signs of being able to have his way now.

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Whoa... what's this about? Did I strike a nerve?

Defense with a "c"? Guess that makes my opinion pretty invalid, huh? You sound upset, I don't know why? I think Kobe's a great player. Not biased? Your last two sentences certainly say otherwise. Oh, don't even start to lecture me rhetorically.

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:20 AM

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SoMiss2000 said:
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noa999 said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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KDRE said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do.

<hr /></blockquote>Like what?

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Go find out. If you don't know what MJ accomplished, you shouldn't have started this thread. In your defence, though... Kobe has a lot of legs left.

<hr /></blockquote>we spell defense with an "S" in the United States. Shut up youngsta. You haven't a clue. I don't need anyone to defend me. He said MJ did things that Kobe will never be able to do. Hell, i'm sure that he'll always be able to put the ball in the basket at will. He's showing signs of being able to have his way now.

<hr /></blockquote>

Whoa... what's this about? Did I strike a nerve?

Defense with a "c"? Guess that makes my opinion pretty invalid, huh? You sound upset, I don't know why? I think Kobe's a great player. Not biased? Your last two sentences certainly say otherwise. Oh, don't even start to lecture me rhetorically.

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:20 AM

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SoMiss2000 said:
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noa999 said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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KDRE said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do.

<hr /></blockquote>Like what?

<hr /></blockquote>

Go find out. If you don't know what MJ accomplished, you shouldn't have started this thread. In your defence, though... Kobe has a lot of legs left.

<hr /></blockquote>we spell defense with an "S" in the United States. Shut up youngsta. You haven't a clue. I don't need anyone to defend me. He said MJ did things that Kobe will never be able to do. Hell, i'm sure that he'll always be able to put the ball in the basket at will. He's showing signs of being able to have his way now.

<hr /></blockquote>

Whoa... what's this about? Did I strike a nerve?

Defense with a "c"? Guess that makes my opinion pretty invalid, huh? You sound upset, I don't know why? I think Kobe's a great player. Not biased? Your last two sentences certainly say otherwise. Oh, don't even start to lecture me rhetorically.

**SoMiss2000** · 06-09-2004, 12:24 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

what the hell is ND? Notre Dame?

**SoMiss2000** · 06-09-2004, 12:24 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

what the hell is ND? Notre Dame?

How good is Kobe?

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