How good is Kobe?

**nkhera1** · 06-09-2004, 12:10 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

IMO Jordan is better than Kobe, but you can't deny that besides shaq kobe doesn't have much help (except for this year), so what i'm trying to say is that mj's team wasn't that bad because they won 55 games the next year without him. Of course jordan is better imo.

Also remember with shaq sitting out the lakers still won some games in the WEST. People the WEST is better than the east overall so its harder to win. Besides if you think t-mac had it bad this year, i think kobe's without shaq is worse. Now i don't think t-mac is worse, i'm just throwing out my opinion. Because when shaq is gone who else can really step up and make shots. Same goes with t-macs team but i think most people would take t-macs supporting cast rather than bryants excluding shaq.

Also i don't remember a streak where t-mac scored 40 or more in 9 consecutive games. It was pretty funny because in the 10th game everyone seemed so dissapointed that bryant only dropped in around 33 or 36.

Just my thoughts, i did not say anywhere in there that bryant was better than t-mac or mj, i'm just stating my opinion.

**Flyboy** · 06-09-2004, 12:11 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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T-Mac potentially is the best player in the NBA, but he has a weak mind. Kobe's already a champion; as confident as he can get.

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This sums it up -- the thread can be closed now.

**Flyboy** · 06-09-2004, 12:11 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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T-Mac potentially is the best player in the NBA, but he has a weak mind. Kobe's already a champion; as confident as he can get.

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This sums it up -- the thread can be closed now.

**Flyboy** · 06-09-2004, 12:11 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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T-Mac potentially is the best player in the NBA, but he has a weak mind. Kobe's already a champion; as confident as he can get.

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This sums it up -- the thread can be closed now.

**nkhera1** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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noa999 said:
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nkhera1 said:
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noa999 said:
I'll start it again: He has Shaq... oh, and two other hall-of-famers.

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yeah how many points did the two other hall-of-famers score?

oh right 11.

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More to basketball than points scored.

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malone was hurt a lot of the game, and if i'm not mistaken payton had 3,3, and 3. Nobody on the lakers scored more than 9 points except for shaq and bryant.

**nkhera1** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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noa999 said:
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nkhera1 said:
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noa999 said:
I'll start it again: He has Shaq... oh, and two other hall-of-famers.

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yeah how many points did the two other hall-of-famers score?

oh right 11.

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More to basketball than points scored.

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malone was hurt a lot of the game, and if i'm not mistaken payton had 3,3, and 3. Nobody on the lakers scored more than 9 points except for shaq and bryant.

**nkhera1** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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noa999 said:
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nkhera1 said:
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noa999 said:
I'll start it again: He has Shaq... oh, and two other hall-of-famers.

<hr /></blockquote>

yeah how many points did the two other hall-of-famers score?

oh right 11.

<hr /></blockquote>

More to basketball than points scored.

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malone was hurt a lot of the game, and if i'm not mistaken payton had 3,3, and 3. Nobody on the lakers scored more than 9 points except for shaq and bryant.

**EWRMETS** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

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KDRE said:
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EWRMETS said:
KDre, as if Jordan never had bad games?

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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played? Doc wasn't licking his chops then like he was tonight either. MJ did his thing under constant double and triple teams.

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Hmmm, I seem to remember Jordan taking a game winning shot, in the finals no less, at the top of the key ONE-ON-ONE against Byron Russell. A game when he had forty-somethin' no less.

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Maybe what you don't remember is that he missed a desperation shot in Game 5. Look I'm not taking anything away from MJ, but you can't expect ANY player to come through every game.

**EWRMETS** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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LedouxRoc said:
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KDRE said:
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EWRMETS said:
KDre, as if Jordan never had bad games?

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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played? Doc wasn't licking his chops then like he was tonight either. MJ did his thing under constant double and triple teams.

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Hmmm, I seem to remember Jordan taking a game winning shot, in the finals no less, at the top of the key ONE-ON-ONE against Byron Russell. A game when he had forty-somethin' no less.

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Maybe what you don't remember is that he missed a desperation shot in Game 5. Look I'm not taking anything away from MJ, but you can't expect ANY player to come through every game.

**EWRMETS** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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LedouxRoc said:
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KDRE said:
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EWRMETS said:
KDre, as if Jordan never had bad games?

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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played? Doc wasn't licking his chops then like he was tonight either. MJ did his thing under constant double and triple teams.

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Hmmm, I seem to remember Jordan taking a game winning shot, in the finals no less, at the top of the key ONE-ON-ONE against Byron Russell. A game when he had forty-somethin' no less.

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Maybe what you don't remember is that he missed a desperation shot in Game 5. Look I'm not taking anything away from MJ, but you can't expect ANY player to come through every game.

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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LedouxRoc said:
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KDRE said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

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Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

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Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

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Who cares. That means nothing at all. I hope you aren't trying to put up accolades of Kobe against MJ

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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LedouxRoc said:
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KDRE said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

<hr /></blockquote>

Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Who cares. That means nothing at all. I hope you aren't trying to put up accolades of Kobe against MJ

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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LedouxRoc said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
KDRE said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SoMiss2000 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

<hr /></blockquote>

Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Who cares. That means nothing at all. I hope you aren't trying to put up accolades of Kobe against MJ

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
LedouxRoc said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
KDRE said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SoMiss2000 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

<hr /></blockquote>

Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yea but.. T-Mac, Sprewell, all had similar performances. The 3-point line wasn't established until Michael's last year at ND (I think).

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:12 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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LedouxRoc said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
KDRE said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
SoMiss2000 said:
<blockquote>Quote:<hr />
Didn't say that bro, but where was this thread when the last game was played?

<hr /></blockquote> not talking about just this game. did you bother to watch the lakers/spurs series, or were you blinded so much by your dislike for Kobe and love for TMAC that you didn't pay attention. The guy was carving up a good defensive Spurs team. It's just sometimes, he seems to be able to get what he wants, much like another great SG in NBA history. That's what I think makes Kobe on the road to Greatness. Now bringing MJ into the argument for comparison, that's how he used to be.

<hr /></blockquote>

Now you're comparing him to MJ. I remember Bernard King getting to the whole whenever he wanted to. What's the deal with the comparison to MJ? Because he was a shooting guard? I saw what happened in the SA series. I didn't say he was a bad player. Again I say I give Kobe props, but you are so wanting to call me a ***** because I don't agree with you.

MJ did things Kobe will never do .

<hr /></blockquote>

Here's one think Kobe did that MJ will never do: Hit 9 threes in a row and 12 in a game.

<hr /></blockquote>

Yea but.. T-Mac, Sprewell, all had similar performances. The 3-point line wasn't established until Michael's last year at ND (I think).

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