How good is Kobe?

23 · 06-09-2004, 12:54 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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Wait, the Bulls minus Jordan are better than Kobe minus the Lakers? ARE YOU NUCKING FUTS????? The Bulls had NO ONE who could stop Shaq. The Lakers are MUCH better than the Bulls without Jordan and Kobe.

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ANYONE AGREE WITH THIS GUY!!!!

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I do.

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So do I

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no you don't, you just want to disagree with me. You actually telling me that the team that on 55 without MJ can't beat these Lakers without Kobe. Is that what you're telling me? IF SO, my argument is done cause I can't believe nothing you say.

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Bye

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:56 AM

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Defense with a "c"? Guess that makes my opinion pretty invalid, huh?

<hr /></blockquote> every one of your opinions are invalid when you don't know what you're talking about.

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Look at you're keyboard. I don't check what I type in Word after every post, because I don't expect morons to judge what I say based on typos I produce. You seriously need to grow up. Your last comment has nothing to do with the topic.

<hr /></blockquote>Moron? I need to grow up?

. And I didn't even call you one directly, but you made the connection. Good job. Keep it up.

<hr /></blockquote>Did I know point out a typo of yours? Wouldn't that make me a direct recipient of your insult, better yet, personal attack.

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Hrm, you typed "know" instead of "not"... just a typo, no big deal.

Regarding your second statement. Exactly, but you made that connection, and you're not the first person to critique my spelling, grammar, etc. You understood what I was trying to say, but you tested me anyway. Get it?

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:56 AM

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SoMiss2000 said:
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noa999 said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Defense with a "c"? Guess that makes my opinion pretty invalid, huh?

<hr /></blockquote> every one of your opinions are invalid when you don't know what you're talking about.

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Look at you're keyboard. I don't check what I type in Word after every post, because I don't expect morons to judge what I say based on typos I produce. You seriously need to grow up. Your last comment has nothing to do with the topic.

<hr /></blockquote>Moron? I need to grow up?

. And I didn't even call you one directly, but you made the connection. Good job. Keep it up.

<hr /></blockquote>Did I know point out a typo of yours? Wouldn't that make me a direct recipient of your insult, better yet, personal attack.

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Hrm, you typed "know" instead of "not"... just a typo, no big deal.

Regarding your second statement. Exactly, but you made that connection, and you're not the first person to critique my spelling, grammar, etc. You understood what I was trying to say, but you tested me anyway. Get it?

**noa999** · 06-09-2004, 12:56 AM

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SoMiss2000 said:
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noa999 said:
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SoMiss2000 said:
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Defense with a "c"? Guess that makes my opinion pretty invalid, huh?

<hr /></blockquote> every one of your opinions are invalid when you don't know what you're talking about.

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Look at you're keyboard. I don't check what I type in Word after every post, because I don't expect morons to judge what I say based on typos I produce. You seriously need to grow up. Your last comment has nothing to do with the topic.

<hr /></blockquote>Moron? I need to grow up?

. And I didn't even call you one directly, but you made the connection. Good job. Keep it up.

<hr /></blockquote>Did I know point out a typo of yours? Wouldn't that make me a direct recipient of your insult, better yet, personal attack.

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Hrm, you typed "know" instead of "not"... just a typo, no big deal.

Regarding your second statement. Exactly, but you made that connection, and you're not the first person to critique my spelling, grammar, etc. You understood what I was trying to say, but you tested me anyway. Get it?

**immortal** · 06-09-2004, 12:56 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

Statistical breakdown:

Jordan's first career:
Shot above 50% in almost every year.
Kobe has not shot over 45.1% in ANY year.

Jordan's second best player was Pippen.
Kobe's second best player (if not best) is Shaq.

Jordan averaged above 31 ppg every year.
Kobe has averaged above 30 once.

Jordan's best year, he averaged 32.5 ppg (lead league), 3 steals (lead league), 8 rebounds, 8 assists and shot .525 from the field. He won the MVP, DPOY, All-star game MVP, All-NBA first team.

Kobe's best year, he averaged 30 ppg, 5.9 assists, 6.9 rebounds, 2.2 steals, shot .451 from the field.

Jordan was doubled and tripled every night.
Kobe is rarely even doubled.

Jordan averaged 49 ppg in his second year in the league in the first round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics. Bulls lost in 3 straight, but every game was decided by less than 8 points. Jordan's second best player was Orlando Woolridge.

Kobe's Lakers went 2-9 when Shaq was injured.

Jordan was the Defensive Player of the year more than once.
Kobe hasn't done it once.

Jordan won the scoring title 8 consecutive years.
Kobe hasn't won it yet.

Jordan - 6 rings with questionable teammates and undoubtedly would've won 8 consecutive if he hadn't retired.

Kobe - 3 rings (maybe 4 this year) with teammates such as Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

**immortal** · 06-09-2004, 12:56 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

Statistical breakdown:

Jordan's first career:
Shot above 50% in almost every year.
Kobe has not shot over 45.1% in ANY year.

Jordan's second best player was Pippen.
Kobe's second best player (if not best) is Shaq.

Jordan averaged above 31 ppg every year.
Kobe has averaged above 30 once.

Jordan's best year, he averaged 32.5 ppg (lead league), 3 steals (lead league), 8 rebounds, 8 assists and shot .525 from the field. He won the MVP, DPOY, All-star game MVP, All-NBA first team.

Kobe's best year, he averaged 30 ppg, 5.9 assists, 6.9 rebounds, 2.2 steals, shot .451 from the field.

Jordan was doubled and tripled every night.
Kobe is rarely even doubled.

Jordan averaged 49 ppg in his second year in the league in the first round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics. Bulls lost in 3 straight, but every game was decided by less than 8 points. Jordan's second best player was Orlando Woolridge.

Kobe's Lakers went 2-9 when Shaq was injured.

Jordan was the Defensive Player of the year more than once.
Kobe hasn't done it once.

Jordan won the scoring title 8 consecutive years.
Kobe hasn't won it yet.

Jordan - 6 rings with questionable teammates and undoubtedly would've won 8 consecutive if he hadn't retired.

Kobe - 3 rings (maybe 4 this year) with teammates such as Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

**immortal** · 06-09-2004, 12:56 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

Statistical breakdown:

Jordan's first career:
Shot above 50% in almost every year.
Kobe has not shot over 45.1% in ANY year.

Jordan's second best player was Pippen.
Kobe's second best player (if not best) is Shaq.

Jordan averaged above 31 ppg every year.
Kobe has averaged above 30 once.

Jordan's best year, he averaged 32.5 ppg (lead league), 3 steals (lead league), 8 rebounds, 8 assists and shot .525 from the field. He won the MVP, DPOY, All-star game MVP, All-NBA first team.

Kobe's best year, he averaged 30 ppg, 5.9 assists, 6.9 rebounds, 2.2 steals, shot .451 from the field.

Jordan was doubled and tripled every night.
Kobe is rarely even doubled.

Jordan averaged 49 ppg in his second year in the league in the first round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics. Bulls lost in 3 straight, but every game was decided by less than 8 points. Jordan's second best player was Orlando Woolridge.

Kobe's Lakers went 2-9 when Shaq was injured.

Jordan was the Defensive Player of the year more than once.
Kobe hasn't done it once.

Jordan won the scoring title 8 consecutive years.
Kobe hasn't won it yet.

Jordan - 6 rings with questionable teammates and undoubtedly would've won 8 consecutive if he hadn't retired.

Kobe - 3 rings (maybe 4 this year) with teammates such as Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

**Leon** · 06-09-2004, 12:57 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

It's their opinion to agree with him, why are you saying they just want to disagree with you? Also, I think that '94 team can beat this current Laker team without Kobe but in a series, I think the Lakers edge them out. Why? Shaq.

**Leon** · 06-09-2004, 12:57 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

It's their opinion to agree with him, why are you saying they just want to disagree with you? Also, I think that '94 team can beat this current Laker team without Kobe but in a series, I think the Lakers edge them out. Why? Shaq.

**Leon** · 06-09-2004, 12:57 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

It's their opinion to agree with him, why are you saying they just want to disagree with you? Also, I think that '94 team can beat this current Laker team without Kobe but in a series, I think the Lakers edge them out. Why? Shaq.

**Dynasty4Kobe** · 06-09-2004, 01:01 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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immortal said:
Statistical breakdown:

Jordan's first career:
Shot above 50% in almost every year.
Kobe has not shot over 45.1% in ANY year.

Jordan's second best player was Pippen.
Kobe's second best player (if not best) is Shaq.

Jordan averaged above 31 ppg every year.
Kobe has averaged above 30 once.

Jordan's best year, he averaged 32.5 ppg (lead league), 3 steals (lead league), 8 rebounds, 8 assists and shot .525 from the field. He won the MVP, DPOY, All-star game MVP, All-NBA first team.

Kobe's best year, he averaged 30 ppg, 5.9 assists, 6.9 rebounds, 2.2 steals, shot .451 from the field.

Jordan was doubled and tripled every night.
Kobe is rarely even doubled.

Jordan averaged 49 ppg in his second year in the league in the first round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics. Bulls lost in 3 straight, but every game was decided by less than 8 points. Jordan's second best player was Orlando Woolridge.

Kobe's Lakers went 2-9 when Shaq was injured.

Jordan was the Defensive Player of the year more than once.
Kobe hasn't done it once.

Jordan won the scoring title 8 consecutive years.
Kobe hasn't won it yet.

Jordan - 6 rings with questionable teammates and undoubtedly would've won 8 consecutive if he hadn't retired.

Kobe - 3 rings (maybe 4 this year) with teammates such as Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

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Dude, we are suppose to be talking about whether or not Kobe has the POTENTIAL to reach that level, not if he has done so already. You are basically comparing Jordan's entire career to Kobe, who questionably hasn't reached his prime. Let him finish his career before we compare the two.

As for my opinion, I do think Kobe has a CHANCE of reaching that level based on what he has done and potential, but I do think it is highly unlikely for him to get there.

**Dynasty4Kobe** · 06-09-2004, 01:01 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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immortal said:
Statistical breakdown:

Jordan's first career:
Shot above 50% in almost every year.
Kobe has not shot over 45.1% in ANY year.

Jordan's second best player was Pippen.
Kobe's second best player (if not best) is Shaq.

Jordan averaged above 31 ppg every year.
Kobe has averaged above 30 once.

Jordan's best year, he averaged 32.5 ppg (lead league), 3 steals (lead league), 8 rebounds, 8 assists and shot .525 from the field. He won the MVP, DPOY, All-star game MVP, All-NBA first team.

Kobe's best year, he averaged 30 ppg, 5.9 assists, 6.9 rebounds, 2.2 steals, shot .451 from the field.

Jordan was doubled and tripled every night.
Kobe is rarely even doubled.

Jordan averaged 49 ppg in his second year in the league in the first round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics. Bulls lost in 3 straight, but every game was decided by less than 8 points. Jordan's second best player was Orlando Woolridge.

Kobe's Lakers went 2-9 when Shaq was injured.

Jordan was the Defensive Player of the year more than once.
Kobe hasn't done it once.

Jordan won the scoring title 8 consecutive years.
Kobe hasn't won it yet.

Jordan - 6 rings with questionable teammates and undoubtedly would've won 8 consecutive if he hadn't retired.

Kobe - 3 rings (maybe 4 this year) with teammates such as Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

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Dude, we are suppose to be talking about whether or not Kobe has the POTENTIAL to reach that level, not if he has done so already. You are basically comparing Jordan's entire career to Kobe, who questionably hasn't reached his prime. Let him finish his career before we compare the two.

As for my opinion, I do think Kobe has a CHANCE of reaching that level based on what he has done and potential, but I do think it is highly unlikely for him to get there.

**Dynasty4Kobe** · 06-09-2004, 01:01 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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immortal said:
Statistical breakdown:

Jordan's first career:
Shot above 50% in almost every year.
Kobe has not shot over 45.1% in ANY year.

Jordan's second best player was Pippen.
Kobe's second best player (if not best) is Shaq.

Jordan averaged above 31 ppg every year.
Kobe has averaged above 30 once.

Jordan's best year, he averaged 32.5 ppg (lead league), 3 steals (lead league), 8 rebounds, 8 assists and shot .525 from the field. He won the MVP, DPOY, All-star game MVP, All-NBA first team.

Kobe's best year, he averaged 30 ppg, 5.9 assists, 6.9 rebounds, 2.2 steals, shot .451 from the field.

Jordan was doubled and tripled every night.
Kobe is rarely even doubled.

Jordan averaged 49 ppg in his second year in the league in the first round of the playoffs against the Boston Celtics. Bulls lost in 3 straight, but every game was decided by less than 8 points. Jordan's second best player was Orlando Woolridge.

Kobe's Lakers went 2-9 when Shaq was injured.

Jordan was the Defensive Player of the year more than once.
Kobe hasn't done it once.

Jordan won the scoring title 8 consecutive years.
Kobe hasn't won it yet.

Jordan - 6 rings with questionable teammates and undoubtedly would've won 8 consecutive if he hadn't retired.

Kobe - 3 rings (maybe 4 this year) with teammates such as Shaquille O'Neal, Karl Malone, Gary Payton.

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Dude, we are suppose to be talking about whether or not Kobe has the POTENTIAL to reach that level, not if he has done so already. You are basically comparing Jordan's entire career to Kobe, who questionably hasn't reached his prime. Let him finish his career before we compare the two.

As for my opinion, I do think Kobe has a CHANCE of reaching that level based on what he has done and potential, but I do think it is highly unlikely for him to get there.

**SoMiss2000** · 06-09-2004, 01:02 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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Exactly, but you made that connection, and you're not the first person to critique my spelling, grammar, etc. You understood what I was trying to say, but you tested me anyway. Get it?

<hr /></blockquote> Yeah, being able to make the connection means i'm not stupid. I know when someone is trying to insult me even when they say they didn't "directly". If you're going to insult me or call me a name, i'd rather you do it directly and not take the cowardly way out. Good nite kiddo.

**SoMiss2000** · 06-09-2004, 01:02 AM

Re: How good is Kobe?

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Exactly, but you made that connection, and you're not the first person to critique my spelling, grammar, etc. You understood what I was trying to say, but you tested me anyway. Get it?

<hr /></blockquote> Yeah, being able to make the connection means i'm not stupid. I know when someone is trying to insult me even when they say they didn't "directly". If you're going to insult me or call me a name, i'd rather you do it directly and not take the cowardly way out. Good nite kiddo.

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