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  • KG
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    • Sep 2005
    • 17583

    #1561
    Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

    Originally posted by jeebs9
    This one of those situations if Nene gets the block out. Even if he didn't trip up. Al doesn't get a free rebound and wide open lay up. John Wall made the stop already. To completely the stop they needed that block out.

    Sorry I'm late.
    No one is denying that. I'm just saying the Wiz could have put themselves in a position to not let the final lay decide the game for them. Same goes for the Hawks.
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    • JODYE
      JB4MVP
      • May 2012
      • 4834

      #1562
      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

      Jeebs, what in god's name are you looking at? Lmfao

      The game 3 that we won I also was commenting how egregious the officiating was, on both ends. And have done so pretty much all year. Haven't been in here during these games as often in this series unfortunately due to work.

      I hate arguing the officiating thing, because people will see what they want to see, but in all seriousness, people really going to try to argue that LeBron lead teams don't get more favorable calls? That is hilarity in and of itself. Have people not watched the NBA the last 20-25 years?
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      • JazzMan
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        • Feb 2012
        • 13547

        #1563
        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

        I wish Chicago and Cleveland could both lose this series.
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        • Vni
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          • Sep 2011
          • 14833

          #1564
          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

          Originally posted by 13
          people really going to try to argue that LeBron lead teams don't get more favorable calls? That is hilarity in and of itself. Have people not watched the NBA the last 20-25 years?
          No wonder the guy gets cramps.

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          • RoundingThird
            Leyenda
            • Aug 2012
            • 3468

            #1565
            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

            Originally posted by JazzMan
            I wish Chicago and Cleveland could both lose this series.
            Yep. And I would also have liked to see the Hawks and Wizards in the Eastern Conference Finals, considering how long it's been since either one of them had a deep run.
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            • jeebs9
              Fear is the Unknown
              • Oct 2008
              • 47568

              #1566
              Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

              Originally posted by 13
              Jeebs, what in god's name are you looking at? Lmfao

              The game 3 that we won I also was commenting how egregious the officiating was, on both ends. And have done so pretty much all year. Haven't been in here during these games as often in this series unfortunately due to work.

              I hate arguing the officiating thing, because people will see what they want to see, but in all seriousness, people really going to try to argue that LeBron lead teams don't get more favorable calls? That is hilarity in and of itself. Have people not watched the NBA the last 20-25 years?
              <iframe width="560" height="315" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/hDg5s13Djho" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>

              He shows it in the slow mo. Just watch as Noah reaches his left hand out and grabs Timothy right arm (a little). It's enough (in the refs opinion) that Timothy could of got the ball. It's because it's a long rebound. If it was short there wouldn't be a call. But you could say that Noah's grab stops Timothy from getting the rebound (which Jimmy actually gets. I think if Noah puts his body on Timothy he could (got away with it or body him a little better). But because of the gap between them. Any little grab will be easily seen as keeping him from getting to the rebound. When I played basketball. I use to do the same exact thing lol. And I'm talking about "long rebounds". Sometimes you get away with it. Sometimes you don't.

              edit: You could even do this the other way on offense. By locking a player arm.
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              • aholbert32
                (aka Alberto)
                • Jul 2002
                • 33106

                #1567
                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                Who would you bring in?
                Thibs w/ a assistant who can run the offense.
                Calipari except he just signed a new deal.
                Any young assistant who has a good offensive scheme.
                Sam Cassell

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                • aholbert32
                  (aka Alberto)
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 33106

                  #1568
                  Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                  Originally posted by Fresh Tendrils
                  Have Serafin and Gortat played on the floor at the same time before?

                  Hump is just more mobile than Nene and I like his mid-range a lot better.
                  They played a little in Game 1 I think.

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                  • wwharton
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2002
                    • 26949

                    #1569
                    Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                    Y'all are being WAY too hard on Nene.

                    First, he deserves ZERO blame for that final layup. He was boxing out the proper man and doesn't have eyes in the back of his head to know that the tallest and most athletic player on the team is coming full speed untouched. I believe it was Beal's rotation and he opted to jump on Korver to prevent an open 3. Things just worked out perfectly for the play to go the way it did.

                    Second, people are calling for Gortat when he's been garbage on both ends of the court for pretty much the entire series? I'm not mad at him bc the Hawks are a horrible match up, playing basically two stretch 4's who are more athletic than Nene and Gortat by a country mile. But Gortat has gotten so many stupid fouls just from throwing guys out of bounds on rebounds or trying to catch entry passes. I'm much more disappointed in him THIS series than Nene (the Toronto series was a very different story).

                    I don't think I need to even mention how awful Gooden looks on defense.

                    Combine these guys with the PnR defense of Sessions and Bynum, and the back side PnR rotations of Beal, Pierce, Tempe and focusing what the Hawks have done on Nene is completely unfair. BTW, he started off aggressive this last game too but just got his shots blocked or altered. It's a bad match up. He's had some open 17 footers that he knocked down. The Wizards strength in this series is with their wing players. Just can't expect much than average from any of the bigs.

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                    • ProfessaPackMan
                      Bamma
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 63852

                      #1570
                      Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                      So basically, you don't care as long as it's not Wittman coaching.
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                      • JODYE
                        JB4MVP
                        • May 2012
                        • 4834

                        #1571
                        Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                        He shows it in the slow mo. Just watch as Noah reaches his left hand out and grabs Timothy right arm (a little). It's enough (in the refs opinion) that Timothy could of got the ball. It's because it's a long rebound. If it was short there wouldn't be a call. But you could say that Noah's grab stops Timothy from getting the rebound (which Jimmy actually gets. I think if Noah puts his body on Timothy he could (got away with it or body him a little better). But because of the gap between them. Any little grab will be easily seen as keeping him from getting to the rebound. When I played basketball. I use to do the same exact thing lol. And I'm talking about "long rebounds". Sometimes you get away with it. Sometimes you don't.
                        Last post on this because there are better things to talk about, but let's say for arguments sake, he did briefly grab his arm here. (I still don't see it) If refs actually called this legitimately, every guy going for a rebound would be fouled out in the first quarter. Which goes back to the original point of, why the hell are you ever calling something like this in a playoff basketball game?

                        I'm not sure what the "Noah putting a body on Timofey" has anything to do with that because the long rebound rendered the box out irrelevant in this case.
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                        • ojandpizza
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                          • Apr 2011
                          • 29807

                          #1572
                          Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                          Originally posted by JazzMan
                          I wish Chicago and Cleveland could both lose this series.

                          The way they have played in this first two series either team will likely lose in the next round if they don't make a jump forward.


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                          • redsrule
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                            • Apr 2010
                            • 9396

                            #1573
                            Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                            Originally posted by aholbert32
                            Thibs w/ a assistant who can run the offense.
                            Calipari except he just signed a new deal.
                            Any young assistant who has a good offensive scheme.
                            Sam Cassell
                            You stay away from Calipari
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                            • The 24th Letter
                              ERA
                              • Oct 2007
                              • 39373

                              #1574
                              Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                              Originally posted by ojandpizza
                              The way they have played in this first two series either team will likely lose in the next round if they don't make a jump forward.


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                              What are you talking about....the refs will make sure Brons team wins.....like last year


                              Originally posted by JazzMan
                              I wish Chicago and Cleveland could both lose this series.

                              I think the Bulls have the most legitimate shot at getting hot and beating a team in the West....so I'm rooting for them even though their fans (not so much talking OS) are making it difficult....
                              Last edited by The 24th Letter; 05-14-2015, 03:24 PM.

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                              • jeebs9
                                Fear is the Unknown
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 47568

                                #1575
                                Re: Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

                                Originally posted by 13
                                Last post on this because there are better things to talk about, but let's say for arguments sake, he did briefly grab his arm here. (I still don't see it) If refs actually called this legitimately, every guy going for a rebound would be fouled out in the first quarter. Which goes back to the original point of, why the hell are you ever calling something like this in a playoff basketball game?

                                I'm not sure what the "Noah putting a body on Timofey" has anything to do with that because the long rebound rendered the box out irrelevant in this case.
                                In the picture I posted. Noah's arm is fully extend. It's OK if you want to look the other way. But like I said this is a subjective thing. And like I said. It's a terrible angle to try a say he did this and he did that. But the ref is watching from the left of the picture. But boxing out would totally give Jimmy a better chance at getting the long rebound. When you box someone out. They are either going to push you towards the rim or be pushed out away from it. But on long rebounds any contact will keep them from getting the ball. But if there is little to no contact. It's easy for the defender to turn and reach an arm out for the ball. But because there is no contact between Noah and Timothy. Timothy has a free run to the ball. But from the refs point of view he see Noah's arm extend and then Timothy come up short.

                                Like I said it better let it be and move on. You'll enjoy basketball better.
                                Last edited by jeebs9; 05-14-2015, 03:29 PM.
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