Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

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Damn imagine the refs actually calling a tech on Blatt which in turn costs them the game.

I am extremely curious how that would've went done and people's reactions especially LeBron...

[Scott812313]

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Damn imagine the refs actually calling a tech on Blatt which in turn costs them the game.

I am extremely curious how that would've went done and people's reactions especially LeBron...

LeBron and JR threw Blatt under the bus after the game. If the officials had correctly T'd him up and the Cavs lost, we would've seen 2010 Game 6 against Boston LeBron and Blatt would be canned shortly after the game.

[The 24th Letter]

Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

Damn imagine the refs actually calling a tech on Blatt which in turn costs them the game.



I am extremely curious how that would've went done and people's reactions especially LeBron...

Would've been madness and put Blatt directly in the hot seat.....just saw the video of it, the way people were describing it I thought It was wildly obvious with a referee right beside him or something...

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/10/cleveland-cavaliers-david-blatt-timeout-video

I also saw Thibbs throwing up the "replay" gesture after the no call on Noah when the ball went out of bounds....I don't see them changing that rule anytime soon.....that 'extra timeout' is a part of the review process.....same rule stopped us from running a quick inbound after that Ray Allen 3....sucks, but you rather then get it right...

[King_B_Mack]

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You're acting like their bench went nuts in game 2. They had 26 points to the Bulls 36. Only two players off the bench even scored in that game for Cleveland. As a team the Cavs shot 44%, that's hardly "nobody missing a shot".

Yes I do think this series was sweepable. Cleveland has looked bad in every game, particularly LeBron and Kyrie to their normal standards. You basically saying that Shumpert and Jones having good nights it's all that needs to be said. This Bulls team should never let those two guys, of all people, determine the outcome of a playoff game. Their defense, outside of Jimmy, has been a major disappointment to me. And offensively they just can't seem to get a consistent rhythm going, even last series, despite Rose playing surprisingly well after an up and down year and missing the past couple seasons.

Gasol put up career numbers this year, Jimmy as well, Taj and Niko were 6th man of the year contenders, Niko rookie of the year contender, Rose playing better than most expected, hell some of you wanted Butler getting some MVP love... This team frankly needs to step the **** up man. If you can't see that as a Bulls fan then I don't know what to tell you. LeBron hasn't played this inconsistent offensively in the past 4 years or so, Kyrie is hurt and struggling, and the Cavs defense is pretty "blah" all around. Bulls have had the golden opportunity to stomp on their throats, they just haven't done it.





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Considering WHEN they were pouring in those 26 points, yeah, they went nuts. But I guess we're ignoring context.

You're moving goalposts here oj and it's driving me nuts man lol. You're giving me all these stats and accomplishments of this team to tell me why they should have swept this series, but then when I pose the question why I have to hear about if LeBron and Kyrie get going it's over for the Bulls, while Rose and crew haven't got going either, you start telling me that you expect them to be inconsistent. If inconsistency is their thing, then why the hell would you think they'd sweep a LeBron James led team? What inconsistent team has ever had an easy time in the playoffs?

You're talking about they need to step up and if I can't see that and all this stuff. I've been here for the last two months talking about the inconsistent play of this team and the turnovers, etc. concerning me. I know exactly what they NEED to do, I just don't know if they'll actually do it. Frankly, I can't see us winning two games in Cleveland which is what we're going to need to do, cause I definitely don't see us winning two straight.

Would've been madness and put Blatt directly in the hot seat.....just saw the video of it, the way people were describing it I thought It was wildly obvious with a referee right beside him or something...

http://www.si.com/nba/2015/05/10/cleveland-cavaliers-david-blatt-timeout-video

I also saw Thibbs throwing up the "replay" gesture after the no call on Noah when the ball went out of bounds....I don't see them changing that rule anytime soon.....that 'extra timeout' is a part of the review process.....same rule stopped us from running a quick inbound after that Ray Allen 3....sucks, but you rather then get it right...

You need to see the wide replay. There's a referee right there next to the scorer's table on the sideline looking right down the line. There's no way the NBA is going to sell me that line of garbage that the dude didn't see Blatt all the way on the court calling a timeout as they're trying to inbound the ball.

[ojandpizza]

Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

Considering WHEN they were pouring in those 26 points, yeah, they went nuts. But I guess we're ignoring context.



You're moving goalposts here oj and it's driving me nuts man lol. You're giving me all these stats and accomplishments of this team to tell me why they should have swept this series, but then when I pose the question why I have to hear about if LeBron and Kyrie get going it's over for the Bulls, while Rose and crew haven't got going either, you start telling me that you expect them to be inconsistent. If inconsistency is their thing, then why the hell would you think they'd sweep a LeBron James led team? What inconsistent team has ever had an easy time in the playoffs?



You're talking about they need to step up and if I can't see that and all this stuff. I've been here for the last two months talking about the inconsistent play of this team and the turnovers, etc. concerning me. I know exactly what they NEED to do, I just don't know if they'll actually do it. Frankly, I can't see us winning two games in Cleveland which is what we're going to need to do, cause I definitely don't see us winning two straight.







You need to see the wide replay. There's a referee right there next to the scorer's table on the sideline looking right down the line. There's no way the NBA is going to sell me that line of garbage that the dude didn't see Blatt all the way on the court calling a timeout as they're trying to inbound the ball.

I'm just saying that come playoff time I expected this group to come together and be better. They just haven't, not in either series. I had this team going to the finals before Love even went out, I expected them to be better than this.

And yes I do expect up and downs from those guys. But that's the beauty of having depth and a top level defense. Their defense hasn't stepped up the way I expected it too when these games actually mean something. When I expected 110% against a LeBron team, like the Bulls usually show.

I think they have had the best opportunity you could ask for and haven't capitalized as well as they should. Hell it took a banker 35 footer just to not be down 3-1 right now. I think they are underachieving..

And of course context matters.. But you don't let Delly, Jones, Shump outplay these guys who have been here before in critical moments of playoff games. That's my point, they leave these guys open they are letting THOSE guys beat them. Just like they let average guys on Milwaukee beat them at times. (No offense Bucks fans).

At some point they need to step up and play like the better team. You can't be losing a games when LeBron is "off" and expect for it not to catch up with you when he eventually gets it going. Not when you are supposed to be a contender. Not with Love gone and Kyrie hobbling.


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[ojandpizza]

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I mean we can keep going back and forth arguing our expectations of this team all night. If you are satisfied with how they've played that's all that matters, you're the Bulls fan not me. I'll continue to be happy with them losing and playing below what my expectation of them was.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

No disrespect, but your reasons and justifications are all over the place to the point where I don't even know what the hell you even mean or are trying to say with all these contradictions.

And if you've watched this team over the year as much as you've watch your boy and the Cavs, then it's easy to see how any Bulls Fan can be scratching their heads after reading what you've been saying.

[ojandpizza]

Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

No disrespect, but your reasons and justifications are all over the place to the point where I don't even know what the hell you even mean or are trying to say with all these contradictions.

And if you've watched this team over the year as much as you've watch your boy and the Cavs, then it's easy to see how any Bulls Fan can be scratching their heads after reading what you've been saying.

Idk how I'm all over the place, I've been saying the same thing for 3 pages now.. Cavs have played worse than I could have imagined, they are injured and very shallow, and the Bulls haven't done anything about it.. Simple as that.

Regular season and a playoff series against LeBron are two different things, you know how this team, every team, usually gears up against him so don't even give me that. Most Bulls fans were here saying how much better Rose has looked compared to the regular season, and everyone here goes on about how the regular season doesn't mean anything..

Obviously I think this team is better, should be better, than the two of you. Idk why that's a hard idea to grasp.


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[Smallville102001]

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Looking at LeBron's stats on paper, I'm very surprised the Cavs are 2-2 in addition with no Love and a banged-up Kyrie.



Props to Jimmy who IMO is the best LeBron defender.

I didn't get a chance to catch the Cavs/Celtics series but LeBron's turnovers have been astonishingly high this year (4.9) compared to previous years' (~3)

Yeah I would give half the credit to jimmy and half of it is James just missing shoots. I mean right now James is shooting like how he did when he first came in the league when he just couldn't shoot and couldn't make any thing and the last time I saw him play this bad was vs Dallas in the finals. Interesting his Free throw % is higher then normal. He just has to start making shoots. All players have bad games throw. I mean look at curry one of the best shooters to ever play and he is like 4 for is last 24 on 3's or something. The scary thing is James has been really bad in like 3 games and kind of good in 1 and yet it is 2-2 and you have to think at some point James is going to just go off and have a like 40 point 12-20 game or something.

[Smallville102001]

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He's shooting 40% in the playoffs and doesn't finish anywhere near as well as he used to and his defense has slipped a ton. He's still awesome, but he's not unstoppable like he used to be.

You guys would be killing Westbrook for going 10-30 and shooting 40%, but I say LeBron has eroded and I'm crazy. He hasn't shot 50% in a playoff game yet. Remember 2 years ago in Miami when he damn near shot 60%? Not the same guy.

All players have there ups and downs what if next year he comes back and has a better year? Kobe at like 32-33 had a worse year then he did at like 34. He is also missing a lot of jump shoots he normal makes and ever one has bad roads. He has been to the finals 4 years in a row maybe is he just getting tired. I still think part of it is being on new team this year. Also his rebounds and assist are up this road and when it comes to getting calls no one and I mean no one gets calls like james harden.

[The 24th Letter]

Eastern Conference Playoffs - 2nd Round Discussion Thread

Yeah I would give half the credit to jimmy and half of it is James just missing shoots. I mean right now James is shooting like how he did when he first came in the league when he just couldn't shoot and couldn't make any thing and the last time I saw him play this bad was vs Dallas in the finals. Interesting his Free throw % is higher then normal. He just has to start making shoots. All players have bad games throw. I mean look at curry one of the best shooters to ever play and he is like 4 for is last 24 on 3's or something. The scary thing is James has been really bad in like 3 games and kind of good in 1 and yet it is 2-2 and you have to think at some point James is going to just go off and have a like 40 point 12-20 game or something.

I had the Bulls in 6, and I figured James going off was going to be the only way they won the two games they did. His teammates are really stepping up though, especially the mid season additions....that a lot of people though of as lateral moves at the time...

Clevelands defense has been a lot more solid than I thought as well....

[ThreeKing]

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Damn imagine the refs actually calling a tech on Blatt which in turn costs them the game.

I am extremely curious how that would've went done and people's reactions especially LeBron...

The refs definitely screwed that up. Anyone who knows me on here, knows I'm the first person person to start screaming about the officiating. However, the refs had really had nothing to do with yesterday's loss. The Bulls had every opportunity to take that game and they didn't, and it probably cost them the series.

These past 3 years without Rose has taken its toll for sure. Aggravating.

[SteelersFreak]

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Where has this mindset of the Bulls being vastly better than the Cavs come from? Because its completely ridiculous. No one should be surprised this series is 2-2.

[ThreeKing]

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Where has this mindset of the Bulls being vastly better than the Cavs come from? Because its completely ridiculous. No one should be surprised this series is 2-2.

It IS surprising.

LeBron is not the dominating uber-athlete he once was. Love is out. Kyrie is clearly playing injured.

Bulls should be up 3-1.

[ojandpizza]

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Where has this mindset of the Bulls being vastly better than the Cavs come from? Because its completely ridiculous. No one should be surprised this series is 2-2.

I'm not surprised it being 2-2 just looking at these teams on paper. I'm surprised it's 2-2 after actually watching the games and the Bulls not taking advantage of long stretches of poor play from Cleveland. They should be trying to stomp these dudes out and the just aren't playing with that urgency.. They didn't do it last series either, I just expected more from them.


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