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  • cima
    Hall Of Fame
    • Sep 2004
    • 13478

    #1

    Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

    With the Splash Brothers taking center stage in the playoffs, we take a look at the best backcourts in NBA history.


    Curry/Thompson aren't on there...yet, as the article states. These backcourts played at least 6 seasons together so they don't qualify yet but they already rank #21 and should be moving up fast. He uses numbers including WARP for this list which is why Dumars/Thomas aren't #1 (I at least thought they would've been).

    1. Drexler/Porter
    2. Parker/Ginobili
    3. Stockton/Hornacek
    4. Thomas/Dumars
    5. Magic/Scott
    6. Derek Harper/Rolando Blackman
    7. Mark Jackson/Reggie Miller
    8. Penny/Nick Anderson
    9. Nash/Finley
    10. Billups/Rip

    Thoughts? Like I stated earlier, I thought Thomas/Dumars would've been #1 or maybe Parker/Ginobili. Interesting list...
    Last edited by cima; 05-22-2015, 02:58 PM.
  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807

    #2
    Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

    Idk why Pippen/Jordan and LeBron/Wade can't be considered a "backcourt".. Especially Pippen and Jordan.


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    • ojandpizza
      Hall Of Fame
      • Apr 2011
      • 29807

      #3
      Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

      I think this list shows that more often than not a great point guard isn't paired with a great shooting guard.. Jeff Hornacek is 3rd.. He's so average.


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      • cima
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2004
        • 13478

        #4
        Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

        Technicality because it's defined as PG and SG or 1 and 2 but yeah I see your point.

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        • cima
          Hall Of Fame
          • Sep 2004
          • 13478

          #5
          Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

          Horny (funny nickname I know) was definitely not average. He was close to 50/40/90 and was close to a 20 PPG scorer earlier in his career. He just wasn't asked to do as much on Utah with Malone doing most of the scoring. Horny is underrated if anything, he was a good passer too.

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          • ojandpizza
            Hall Of Fame
            • Apr 2011
            • 29807

            #6
            Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

            How far back does it go?

            West/Goodrich, Walt/Pearl, Cousy/Sharman


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            • cima
              Hall Of Fame
              • Sep 2004
              • 13478

              #7
              Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

              NBA/ABA merger. Good call, changed thread title.

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              • cima
                Hall Of Fame
                • Sep 2004
                • 13478

                #8
                Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

                Also here's another article on the history of the NBA that basically states the 95-96 Bulls are the GOAT, the 60's Celtics are overrated because of weak opponents, and the Knicks peaked in 1969. http://fivethirtyeight.com/interacti...espnFB#hornets

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                • ojandpizza
                  Hall Of Fame
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 29807

                  #9
                  Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts since NBA/ABA Merger

                  Meh I think he's pretty average. Average defender, average passer, average rebounder, average scorer, he could shoot it with the best though... He's the worst SG on the list, he or Anderson.


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                  • cima
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Sep 2004
                    • 13478

                    #10
                    Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts since NBA/ABA Merger

                    I'd take him over Byron Scott who's on that list too. They are comparable scorers over their careers but Horny was a better rebounder and much better passer.

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                    • AlexBrady
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 3341

                      #11
                      Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

                      So, everything before the merger doesn't count? Nonsense. The finest backcourt ever was the Frazier/Monroe duo. They could shoot, create, and defend. West and Goodrich would be my number two. Goodrich's pitiful defense keeps them out of the top spot.

                      Terry Porter and Clyde Drexler didn't play much defense, so I struggle to see them as number one.

                      Jeff Hornacek, by the way, was a fantastic shooter who used screens as efficiently as anyone.

                      The 96 Bulls rank highly on my all time list. They were a total finesse team though and I'm not sure they could have beaten the 67 Sixers or 72 Lakers in a seven game series.

                      Russell's Celtics faced some of the toughest opponents of all time. There were roughly half as many teams then, so the competition for roster spots was ferocious. Virtually all of the players were forced to play out their college careers which means they were fundamentally sound. As I've said many times before, the league was strongest from about 64 to 69.

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                      • VDusen04
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 13031

                        #12
                        Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

                        Originally posted by cima
                        Also here's another article on the history of the NBA that basically states the 95-96 Bulls are the GOAT, the 60's Celtics are overrated because of weak opponents, and the Knicks peaked in 1969. http://fivethirtyeight.com/interacti...espnFB#hornets
                        Saw this piece pop up the other day - definitely an enjoyable read. Turns out the 80's was a pretty solid decade for the Pistons, literally starting from their franchise's all-time low point in 1980 and wrapping things up with their all-time high point in 1989.

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                        • Dice
                          Sitting by the door
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 6627

                          #13
                          Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

                          I would have picked Thomas and Dumars, the only back-court on the list that are both Hall of Famers.
                          I have more respect for a man who let's me know where he stands, even if he's wrong. Than the one who comes up like an angel and is nothing but a devil. - Malcolm X

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                          • Jeffx
                            MVP
                            • Jan 2007
                            • 3045

                            #14
                            Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

                            Originally posted by AlexBrady
                            So, everything before the merger doesn't count? Nonsense. The finest backcourt ever was the Frazier/Monroe duo. They could shoot, create, and defend. West and Goodrich would be my number two. Goodrich's pitiful defense keeps them out of the top spot.

                            Terry Porter and Clyde Drexler didn't play much defense, so I struggle to see them as number one.

                            Jeff Hornacek, by the way, was a fantastic shooter who used screens as efficiently as anyone.

                            The 96 Bulls rank highly on my all time list. They were a total finesse team though and I'm not sure they could have beaten the 67 Sixers or 72 Lakers in a seven game series.

                            Russell's Celtics faced some of the toughest opponents of all time. There were roughly half as many teams then, so the competition for roster spots was ferocious. Virtually all of the players were forced to play out their college careers which means they were fundamentally sound. As I've said many times before, the league was strongest from about 64 to 69.
                            Co-sign 100%, especially about the 96 Bulls. I doubt they could have beaten the 83 Sixers, 85 Lakers or the 86 Celtics.

                            Being a Knick fan, I'm partial to Frazier/Monroe, but I loved the old Sonic backcourt of Gus Williams and Dennis Johnson. They were so much fun to watch.

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                            • AlexBrady
                              MVP
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 3341

                              #15
                              Re: Pelton's Top 10 Backcourts of All-Time

                              Originally posted by Jeffx
                              Co-sign 100%, especially about the 96 Bulls. I doubt they could have beaten the 83 Sixers, 85 Lakers or the 86 Celtics.

                              Being a Knick fan, I'm partial to Frazier/Monroe, but I loved the old Sonic backcourt of Gus Williams and Dennis Johnson. They were so much fun to watch.
                              The 83 Sixers didn't have much depth off the bench besides Bobby Jones. Marc Iavoroni was their starting power forward and he was a journeyman. Not much perimeter shooting besides Andrew Toney. 96 Bulls win in five games.

                              The 85 Lakers had to be able to run to win. Problem is, the 96 Bulls were great at defending the transition game and the triangle would have limited the mistakes. Only Kareem was an effective scorer in a slow down pace. The starters didn't play much defense. 96 Bulls win in six games.

                              The 86 Celtics had that great front court but could be beaten by speed. Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman moved at warp speed. That edition of the Celtics didn't have the loaded bench some of their earlier teams had. 96 Bulls win in seven games.

                              I liked that Williams/Johnson backcourt too. Williams was devastating in a broken field and DJ was a two-way star. I place them in the lower part of my top ten.
                              Last edited by AlexBrady; 06-04-2015, 06:43 PM.

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