NBA lottery should reward the 7th and 8th seeds.......

[RockinDaMike]

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I'm all for this being a Suns fan.

[Teddy_Long]

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Rewarding a 7th seeded team with a high pick who's 19 years old doesn't solve much. He's going to ride their bench most likely. Then when he finally develops they've got to decide to pay him or continue to pay the guys who actually got them to the playoffs. And also hope none of them leave in the meantime.



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u believe ben simmons would ride the bench in atlanta, boston, memphis, phoenix or even new orleans? i don't see it. i also believe it would help a simmons learn the game the correct way, i.e leonard in sa. not iso, get my numbers and i'll play d when i want.

[ojandpizza]

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u believe ben simmons would ride the bench in atlanta, boston, memphis, phoenix or even new orleans? i don't see it. i also believe it would help a simmons learn the game the correct way, i.e leonard in sa. not iso, get my numbers and i'll play d when i want.

Pelican can wind up getting him anyways. They are a bottom 5 team right now.

Maybe he would, maybe he wouldn't. But if he does pan out a bad team needs him much worse than a good one does.


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[redsox4evur]

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my whole point is that a team such as boston will just be a solid team but won't move much in the east unless they start losing bad. case in point, the golden st warriors. 3 players in their starting unit are top ten to top 12 lottery selections.

curry 1st round, 7 selection
thompson 1st round, 11 selection
barnes 1st round, 7 selection

no one is signing with boston unless it's the lottery. once a team can hit on a top 10 player in the lottery such as boston, then it could eventually lead to other players coming there. however, it won't happen without the team being bad 1st.

The Celtics should have at least 3 lottery picks (unless the dumpster fire known as the Nets change form drastically) in the next 3 years even if they win the Championship. So they are set. And like OJ said we have had lottery picks in the past (Smart and Olynyk).

And I do agree with OJ on these guys riding the bench their first season if they are on a playoff team. The only guys in the past 2-3 years that would not have rode the bench were Parker, and Wiggins. And if you go back a 4th year only Davis and Lillard and maybe Beal depending on the team.

[SteelersFreak]

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I say scrap the lottery. If teams want to piss away a whole season and let attendance suffer in the hopes that their #1 draft pick will save them, let them do it.

[Jukeman]

NBA lottery should reward the 7th and 8th seeds.......

in both east and west. those 4 teams should get the most lottery balls. this concept would reward winning and drive more teams to be competitive. it would also help the nba. i'd rather see more boston teams than what's going on with the sixers. your thoughts.....

Awarding a 7th or 8th seed who makes it deep into the playoffs or even the finals isn't fair.

This is sort sighted and based on the nba recent events.

What if we have another year where the 8th seed and 1st are only separated by a few wins?

Only way this make sense is if you re-seed the playoff based on finish and award the 15th and 16th place team with a lottery but even that's a stretch.


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[rdnk]

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Of course, blatantly tanking has to hurt ticket sales. I don't know how the 76ers get away with being at the bottom for 2-3 years in a row without paying for it in terms of revenues. Lets say they get the top pick and Ben Simmons or whomever they pick turns out to have as much impact on the league as any player since LBJ or KD. So the team turns around and home games sell out.

Does that make up for the years of tanking?

I imagine the Houston Astros think so. They took a beating in revenue, but were able to survive with low payrolls. Then they made the playoffs and nearly beat the WS winning KC Royals. 3 seasons of being awful, 1 of being mediocre and then boom, playoffs. If they're good for the next 6 years, it is indeed worth it.

[702]

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If you don't think a team facing the prospect of getting routed in the first round wouldn't tank to the 7th seed instead of the 6th you're being incredibly naive.

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[24ct]

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That's actually a great idea but the league wouldn't do this because they don't really care that teams tank.

[wwharton]

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my whole point is that a team such as boston will just be a solid team but won't move much in the east unless they start losing bad. case in point, the golden st warriors. 3 players in their starting unit are top ten to top 12 lottery selections.

curry 1st round, 7 selection
thompson 1st round, 11 selection
barnes 1st round, 7 selection

no one is signing with boston unless it's the lottery. once a team can hit on a top 10 player in the lottery such as boston, then it could eventually lead to other players coming there. however, it won't happen without the team being bad 1st.

Your whole point is that you want to help the Celtics... others are trying to save the thread. Don't keep going back to it, even other Celtics fans are trying to point out the flaws.

[redsox4evur]

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Your whole point is that you want to help the Celtics... others are trying to save the thread. Don't keep going back to it, even other Celtics fans are trying to point out the flaws.

Yea it seems like this and as I stated the Celtics don't need help by changing the lottery. They have a chance at 3 top 5 picks in the next 3 years that they stole from Billy King and the Nets. Which they can use or trade for a superstar. And this still wouldn't solve tanking. Because a 6 seed looking at playing a team like San Antonio, OKC, LAC, whoever in the first round they will tank to the 7 or 8 seed and get that high chance at the lottery. I think it will actually lead to more tanking than less because of that.

[CMH]

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If you don't think a team facing the prospect of getting routed in the first round wouldn't tank to the 7th seed instead of the 6th you're being incredibly naive.

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I actually don't.

Why would a team tank? I would love to hear the reasons players in the locker room would openly discuss tanking together for a top pick in next seasons draft.

Several players on that team are playing for a chance to survive in the NBA. Tanking means purposely playing poorly which affects stats. How are you convincing the #9-13 guys to not play hard when their number is called?

The coach leading this team knows that no job is guaranteed, even when ownership tells you your job is guaranteed. How does ownership convince a man in constant communication with his coaching colleagues to openly tank so that his season is viewed as a failure. How do you convince that coach that other NBA teams will understand he was mandated to crash the final weeks of the season to have a better lottery pick and not face the tougher playoff opponent?

Ownership can tank their team with trades and cuts. But playoff positioning is determined well after the deadline so that strategy is thrown out the window, and releasing or cutting your better players from a playoff bound team with weeks to play would probably cause the greatest havoc in league history.

But I would really like to read why you think players and coaches would tank their playoff positioning.

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[SteelersFreak]

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I actually don't.

Why would a team tank? I would love to hear the reasons players in the locker room would openly discuss tanking together for a top pick in next seasons draft.

Several players on that team are playing for a chance to survive in the NBA. Tanking means purposely playing poorly which affects stats. How are you convincing the #9-13 guys to not play hard when their number is called?

The coach leading this team knows that no job is guaranteed, even when ownership tells you your job is guaranteed. How does ownership convince a man in constant communication with his coaching colleagues to openly tank so that his season is viewed as a failure. How do you convince that coach that other NBA teams will understand he was mandated to crash the final weeks of the season to have a better lottery pick and not face the tougher playoff opponent?

Ownership can tank their team with trades and cuts. But playoff positioning is determined well after the deadline so that strategy is thrown out the window, and releasing or cutting your better players from a playoff bound team with weeks to play would probably cause the greatest havoc in league history.

But I would really like to read why you think players and coaches would tank their playoff positioning.

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I don't know why people are so anti-tanking anyways. Like I said, if a team wants to take the hit in attendance, in fans, in player happiness and look like a piece of **** organization that doesn't care about actually playing the sport, why should we stop them? All the lottery has ever ended up doing is ****ing over teams that are legitimately bad.

[CMH]

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I don't know why people are so anti-tanking anyways. Like I said, if a team wants to take the hit in attendance, in fans, in player happiness and look like a piece of **** organization that doesn't care about actually playing the sport, why should we stop them? All the lottery has ever ended up doing is ****ing over teams that are legitimately bad.

Yeah but your comment is from an organizational perspective. Owner, General Manager.

I keep seeing things like the players will tank. I still haven't seen a legitimate reason why a player or coach would tank on purpose for better draft picks.

[ojandpizza]

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Players don't "tank" but management can. And they can dictate certain players minutes as well. We've seen teams call it quits in the past and sit one of their better players for the remainder of the year once it was clear they weren't making it to the post season.

Also you think everyone on that team is going to give their 110% effort every night? Knowing that their team is basically built to lose. Knowing that they aren't playing for anything meaningful? Obviously some guys have too much pride and competitive spirit for that, but others are content by just making their millions for playing a game.

IDK why the league would need to redo an entire lottery system because one team decided they wanted to suck for awhile. Some people are acting like this is a major league-wide issue. We have one team that is clearly on board with tanking, why is that such a big deal. The Sixers suck really bad, and likely aren't going to get any better unless they get a top level player from the draft. So let's just give that player to another team, that makes sense, that'll fix the problem.


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