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23 · 01-21-2016, 04:22 PM

Re: 1/19 - 1/25 Games Discussion Thread

Originally posted by pietasterp

It's a legitimate tactic. Why wouldn't you want to exploit a player's biggest weakness? If you know a guy can't go left, you force him left. If you know he's a bad jump shooter, you back off and prevent the dribble drive. If a guy can't shoot free throws....

Drummond needs to learn to shoot free throws, or he's limiting his value to the team.

More legitimate and what i'd consider exploting a players weakness is what they used to try to do to Shaq

This right here is like "well there is no line so ill do whatever"

It's really a mockery. At some point its going to have to be addressed in some way if this is what it boils down to.

Im not against them learning to shoot FT's, they should in game situations....

but If I paid high priced ticket seats to see that I'd be ticked. People come to watch teams battle in the sport of competition, not this here. Cheesers exist everywhere.

**dsallupinyaarea** · 01-21-2016, 05:46 PM

Re: 1/19 - 1/25 Games Discussion Thread

Originally posted by pietasterp

It's a legitimate tactic. Why wouldn't you want to exploit a player's biggest weakness? If you know a guy can't go left, you force him left. If you know he's a bad jump shooter, you back off and prevent the dribble drive. If a guy can't shoot free throws....

Drummond needs to learn to shoot free throws, or he's limiting his value to the team.

It's the only advantage you can stop the flow of the game to exploit. You can't stop the game and make Tim Duncan dribble around cones.

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**pietasterp** · 01-21-2016, 06:12 PM

Re: 1/19 - 1/25 Games Discussion Thread

Originally posted by 23

More legitimate and what i'd consider exploting a players weakness is what they used to try to do to Shaq

This right here is like "well there is no line so ill do whatever"

It's really a mockery. At some point its going to have to be addressed in some way if this is what it boils down to.

Im not against them learning to shoot FT's, they should in game situations....

but If I paid high priced ticket seats to see that I'd be ticked. People come to watch teams battle in the sport of competition, not this here. Cheesers exist everywhere.

Fair enough. I agree it's ugly and I do think it sucks, but I also think it's a bit of a slippery slope to start changing the rules so that teams can't exploit another team's weakness. I mean, if Golden State continues to dominate, will they consider getting rid of the 3-point line?

But the most salient point you made is the last one - in the end, if the fans decide they don't want to see these hack-a-player free throw bricking contests, then they will change the rule. The only fundamental, unchangeable rule in all of sports is: do what needs to be done to preserve revenue.

Originally posted by dsallupinyaarea

It's the only advantage you can stop the flow of the game to exploit. You can't stop the game and make Tim Duncan dribble around cones.

That's why you need to learn to shoot free throws. But I do see your point - and for what it's worth, I did actually LOL at your Duncan comment.

**muggins** · 01-21-2016, 06:44 PM

Re: 1/19 - 1/25 Games Discussion Thread

It's also punishing one player because his position doesn't focus on that skill. You can't foul LeBron and make him shoot threes or foul Steph Curry and make him dunk from the free throw line

**ProfessaPackMan** · 01-21-2016, 07:08 PM

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It's also punishing one player because his position doesn't focus on that skill

And who's to blame for this?

Serious question BTW

**muggins** · 01-21-2016, 07:19 PM

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Whoever wrote the rules that let teams take advantage of intentional fouling. AFAIK it doesn't happen in FIBA, college, or hs

**ProfessaPackMan** · 01-21-2016, 07:24 PM

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I guess what I'm saying is that is it really punishing them if other players that play that position aren't having the issue of being unable to knock down FTs?

**muggins** · 01-21-2016, 07:38 PM

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It has punished some of the best players that have ever played the game. It's harmless to make it so the fouled team can choose to take the ball out or shoot fts.

23 · 01-21-2016, 08:31 PM

Re: 1/19 - 1/25 Games Discussion Thread

Originally posted by pietasterp

Fair enough. I agree it's ugly and I do think it sucks, but I also think it's a bit of a slippery slope to start changing the rules so that teams can't exploit another team's weakness. I mean, if Golden State continues to dominate, will they consider getting rid of the 3-point line?

But the most salient point you made is the last one - in the end, if the fans decide they don't want to see these hack-a-player free throw bricking contests, then they will change the rule. The only fundamental, unchangeable rule in all of sports is: do what needs to be done to preserve revenue.

That's why you need to learn to shoot free throws. But I do see your point - and for what it's worth, I did actually LOL at your Duncan comment.

The NBA changes rules all the time. The way the game is now is because they changed rules to make scoring easier for players. To integrate european players into the NBA more (their words)

I believe Houston did that nonsense for an entire quarter in the playoffs. Imagine if this was the NFL. People would be outraged. Thing is fans don't want to see, but they do however feel these guys should be working hard on their freethrows.

It's their job to practice and exercise and be in shape and run up and down the court. You mean to tell me you cant put some time in the summer to learn how to make free unguarded shots?

I understand Silver not jumping on it right away, I actually think he was right to sit back to see how it affects things, It's just that its going to keep getting worse and is a bad look overall on the product IMO either way.

**ProfessaPackMan** · 01-21-2016, 08:42 PM

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Originally posted by muggins

It has punished some of the best players that have ever played the game. It's harmless to make it so the fouled team can choose to take the ball out or shoot fts.

Who are these GOAT players that were punished by it?

Hell, the tactic was originally created(or really named)after ONE player(Shaq) who couldn't make his FTs(but was however dominant in other areas that you really didn't care if he made them or not).

I can see the argument about the fan's perspective(like Dre mentioned earlier)but to say that it's punishing players? That's not true at all.

**muggins** · 01-21-2016, 09:32 PM

Re: 1/19 - 1/25 Games Discussion Thread

Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan

Who are these GOAT players that were punished by it?

Hell, the tactic was originally created(or really named)after ONE player(Shaq) who couldn't make his FTs(but was however dominant in other areas that you really didn't care if he made them or not).

I can see the argument about the fan's perspective(like Dre mentioned earlier)but to say that it's punishing players? That's not true at all.

Wilt, Shaq, Dwight Howard, DeAndre Jordan, etc.

Forcing a player to make free throws every time down the court or sit the bench when he's an all star is quite obviously punishing him. I don't know if you watched the game last night but Houston's coach basically held Andre hostage.

**ojandpizza** · 01-21-2016, 09:45 PM

1/19 - 1/25 Games Discussion Thread

It wouldn't be punishment if they would make their free throws though.

I mean I get what you're saying, but it's a simple fix.

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**muggins** · 01-21-2016, 09:53 PM

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If it's that simple do you really think they wouldn't do it?

**ojandpizza** · 01-21-2016, 09:54 PM

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My biggest question mark around the whole hack-a-whoever strategy is that if you fouled someone like that, contact that isn't going for the ball, at any other point in the game it's likely called a flagrant. Just running up and grabbing someone who's dribbling, or about to shoot is rarely considered just a common foul. It's just odd that it's allowed for this special ruling, and then considered intentional when you're under 2 minutes.

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**ojandpizza** · 01-21-2016, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by muggins

If it's that simple do you really think they wouldn't do it?

Well I mean some guys probably can't. No matter how much they practice I'm sure some players will just never be great at free throws. But still the solution to the problem is quite simple. Gotta make free throws. If you can't ever get respectable from the line you'll forever be a liability in that aspect of the game. That's on the player though, not the rules or our opinion on the overall strategy.

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