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  • DieHardYankee26
    BING BONG
    • Feb 2008
    • 10178

    #5776
    Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by redsox4evur
    Right the international guys get stashed but I don't see a guy like Ben Simmons or Jaylen Brown getting stashed like Mickey Moniack or Ian Anderson in the MLB. Both are the 1 and 3 picks in their drafts respectively. The main difference between the two is the age component. You say a guy is supposed to start his peak at 21-22 in the NBA whereas in the MLB that is when these guys make their debut. Also IMO, in the MLB the rookies get more time to develop and fix their flaws before they start playing against the competition in the world. And the NBA guys are thrown straight into the fire.


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    You're telling me how it works now but I already know that. I'm asking why it couldn't work with the minor league system. What's the difference between taking Ben Simmons out of high school and having him get work still in your organization in a lower league as opposed to a year of college? There's always going to be LeBron's or Bryce's that get drafted and can play immediately, so you let them do it. The rest could go to the D League if they beefed it up.
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    • CMH
      Making you famous
      • Oct 2002
      • 26203

      #5777
      Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

      A true minor league system also extends careers. I'm sure the NBPA will be all about that.

      If a second rounder can be stashed away in the minors making a decent income (and is a player not talented enough to make big money overseas) I am certain an NBA team takes that road in order to develop that player in their system.

      And that second rounder doesn't turn down that job.
      "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807

        #5778
        Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread



        Lol damn


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        • Mr.Ace
          Rookie
          • Oct 2008
          • 121

          #5779
          Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

          Originally posted by CMH
          A true minor league system also extends careers. I'm sure the NBPA will be all about that.

          If a second rounder can be stashed away in the minors making a decent income (and is a player not talented enough to make big money overseas) I am certain an NBA team takes that road in order to develop that player in their system.

          And that second rounder doesn't turn down that job.
          If you make a true minor league you add a 3rd round to the draft I would assume too..

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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #5780
            Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by Vni
            Well if he wants to win he can't be the first option. I thought players who were going to San Antonio were over that and wanted to win though.
            Espn making up stories again man.

            That wasn't nor is the story out of san antonio.

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            • CMH
              Making you famous
              • Oct 2002
              • 26203

              #5781
              Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by Mr.Ace
              If you make a true minor league you add a 3rd round to the draft I would assume too..
              I wonder that too. Possible.
              "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

              "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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              • wco81
                Banned
                • Jul 2002
                • 3305

                #5782
                Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                Ok so what do they do, divert a couple of million from each NBA team for their minor league affiliate?

                Problem with that would be the stars still get their money but the guys at the end of the bench get less?

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                • Mr.Ace
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 121

                  #5783
                  Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by wco81
                  Ok so what do they do, divert a couple of million from each NBA team for their minor league affiliate?

                  Problem with that would be the stars still get their money but the guys at the end of the bench get less?


                  Think the TV deal is picking up the tab. The CBA doesn't appear to be changing.

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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #5784
                    Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by wco81
                    Ok so what do they do, divert a couple of million from each NBA team for their minor league affiliate?

                    Problem with that would be the stars still get their money but the guys at the end of the bench get less?
                    In MLB the minor league salaries aren't part of the big league payroll. I imagine the NBA would do the same.

                    They'll probably need to figure out things like what happens to call ups, who is eligible to be called up, 20(?) man roster limit, new waiver rules, etc.

                    The league and teams have money. They can afford extra salaries especially ones starting well below half a million a year.
                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • zasbury25
                      The Magic
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 1204

                      #5785
                      Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                      Originally posted by CMH
                      In MLB the minor league salaries aren't part of the big league payroll. I imagine the NBA would do the same.

                      They'll probably need to figure out things like what happens to call ups, who is eligible to be called up, 20(?) man roster limit, new waiver rules, etc.

                      The league and teams have money. They can afford extra salaries especially ones starting well below half a million a year.

                      According to Woj's latest report on the new CBA:
                      Two-way contracts between the NBA and NBA Development League will offer teams the chance to add 16th and 17th roster spots, and pay players differently based upon their assignments in either the league’s minor league or as part of the parent team, league sources said.
                      I think adding the 16th and 17th roster spot will hopefully make the D-League a better tool for teams to use once there is a full 30-team 1:1 relationship between the league. Hopefully, getting additional roster spots will get the others on-board and move toward a real minor league system.

                      Also, with Sacramento taking controlling interest in Reno yesterday, half of the league now fully owns and operates a D-League franchise. Orlando will have their own local D-league team next season (Kissimmee or Lakeland), so Erie will be up for grabs for some other team. Also for the first time, all 22 D-league teams are 1:1 with an NBA team so all the D-league franchises should hopefully emulate what their parent club is doing on the court or wanting to accomplish/test.
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                      • Vni
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2011
                        • 14833

                        #5786
                        Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                        Jazzman check this out, starts at 11:15

                        <iframe src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/q_W9e1-QTck" allowfullscreen="" height="315" frameborder="0" width="560"></iframe>

                        Dude praises Utah. Whoever he is.

                        Pack do not clic on this though.
                        Last edited by Vni; 10-21-2016, 04:15 PM.

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                        • wco81
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 3305

                          #5787
                          Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by CMH
                          In MLB the minor league salaries aren't part of the big league payroll. I imagine the NBA would do the same.

                          They'll probably need to figure out things like what happens to call ups, who is eligible to be called up, 20(?) man roster limit, new waiver rules, etc.

                          The league and teams have money. They can afford extra salaries especially ones starting well below half a million a year.
                          But if they allocate money for the minor leagues, it would presumably hit the NBA payrolls.

                          You near about higher jersey sales bumping up the cap more than once during a season.

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                          • J_Posse
                            Greatness Personified
                            • Jun 2005
                            • 11255

                            #5788
                            Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by Vni
                            Jazzman check this out, starts at 11:15



                            Dude praises Utah. Whoever he is.

                            Pack do not clic on this though.
                            My man is overselling the Jazz big time. Second best team in the West and didn't make the playoffs last year. [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

                            The Jazz should compete for a top 4 or 6 spot, but no way are they leap frogging the Spurs and Clippers for the 2nd seed (barring injury).

                            from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ
                            Last edited by J_Posse; 10-22-2016, 10:12 AM.
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                            • JazzMan
                              SOLDIER, First Class...
                              • Feb 2012
                              • 13547

                              #5789
                              Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by J_Posse
                              My man is overselling the Jazz big time. Second best team in the West and didn't make the playoffs last year. [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23] [emoji23]

                              The Jazz should compete for a top 4 or 6 spot, but no way are they leap frogging the Spurs and Clippers for the 2nd seed (barring injury).

                              from Spurs Nation/Bills Backer HQ
                              Yeah, I definitely feel we are the deepest team in the league. But deepest =/= strongest. For all we know, Portland could be better just because they have a legit star in Lillard.

                              I still expect a top 4 seed this year. We are built to sustain injuries, unlike last season.

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                              • ProfessaPackMan
                                Bamma
                                • Mar 2008
                                • 63852

                                #5790
                                Re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                Man, we've been hearing this for the last 3-4 years. They're always a "sleeper" but are one of the first teams sleeping literally once the playoffs start.

                                Make the playoffs(finally)first before ya'll start talking about putting them in the top anything.
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