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  • ojandpizza
    Hall Of Fame
    • Apr 2011
    • 29807
    #946
    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by Vni
    I don't see anyway they give up Butler for just #5 though.


    Oh they won't, and they shouldn't. I just don't think Minny should overpay either.

    I think they'll be in kind of a limbo situation with Butler. I don't think they will find quite what they want for him, and I don't think any team is going to overpay and get him at the top 5ish level player asking price either. If I'm Chicago though I would want to keep him anyways, or go for lots of future assets if they want to start over.

    They probably could have gotten just about anything they wanted a couple seasons ago. I think he's leveling off though now.

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      • ojandpizza
        Hall Of Fame
        • Apr 2011
        • 29807
        #947
        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        In other words, you think Jimmy has hit his ceiling and won't get any better than what he currently is now while Wiggins still has "potential" on his side even though we still don't know what his ceiling is either.


        I don't necessarily think he's hit his ceiling. I just don't believe his ceiling is much higher than what we've saw. I don't think he's a focal point of your offense guy like he once looked like he was on the path to becoming.

        Like I said earlier, Wiggins basically matchup his production this year. Playing in the West at that. At about 6-7 years younger with numbers Jimmy didn't hit until these past two seasons.

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          • ProfessaPackMan
            Bamma
            • Mar 2008
            • 63852
            #948
            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

            Lol you're basically saying he hit his ceiling, man.

            Let's be real, #5 pick(as of NOW)doesn't have as much as value that it would normally have with this being a very weak draft outside of Simmons/Ingram.
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              • CMH
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                • Oct 2002
                • 26203
                #949
                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by ojandpizza
                Ain't nobody giving up some big offer for Jimmy.
                Let's not underestimate how much Thibs loves the guy. If he could play him 49 minutes a game, he would.

                I think the Wolves go hard for Butler but not at the expense of their core. Thibs is going to sell the Bulls on their clock being out and needing picks, role guys to rebuild with.

                I only have a hard time seeing the Bulls pick up any of Thibs calls.
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                  • Themayorofawsometown
                    Pro
                    • Sep 2015
                    • 1101
                    #950
                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                    Am I the only one who thinks Jimmy isn't worth a top 5 pick

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                      • dsallupinyaarea
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                        • Jan 2009
                        • 2764
                        #951
                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                        I'd trade every pick from #3 on down for Butler, straight up. Pretty easily. Not sure why Chicago would be shopping him. He's an all-star with 3 years remaining on a pre-cap boom contract.
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                          • jeremym480
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                            • Oct 2008
                            • 18198
                            #952
                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by Themayorofawsometown
                            Am I the only one who thinks Jimmy isn't worth a top 5 pick

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                            Yes, I think you are the only one.
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                              • areobee401
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                                • Apr 2006
                                • 16771
                                #953
                                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                Celtics could easily trump whatever package the Wolves put together if Butler is actually available. Something the Bulls have denied since the trade deadline.
                                Last edited by areobee401; 06-14-2016, 10:19 AM.
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                                  • Yeah...THAT Guy
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                                    • Dec 2006
                                    • 17294
                                    #954
                                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                    Minnesota would clearly have to offer more than just #5 for Jimmy, but there's no chance they offer Wiggins + #5. I'd guess their top offer would be something like #5, LaVine, Shabazz, and Dieng or something along those lines.

                                    I don't love LaVine either, but you're talking about a ridiculous athlete that was pouring in around 17 points per game on outstanding efficiency after the all-star break. It isn't hard to see why a GM might value him highly.

                                    I don't really see this as a trade that will actually happen though.
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                                      • 23
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                                        • Sep 2002
                                        • 66469
                                        #955
                                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                        Bulls reportedly "actively open" to move Derrick Rose, would rather keep Jimmy Butler http://ble.ac/1XnJARo

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                                          • Sportsbuck
                                            The Predator
                                            • Jul 2006
                                            • 4326
                                            #956
                                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                            It's just so tough to imagine Rose playing somewhere else, being a Chicago kid born and raised and all. I think it's the right move for both sides at this point, though.
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                                              • Vni
                                                Hall Of Fame
                                                • Sep 2011
                                                • 14833
                                                #957
                                                re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                                Originally posted by Sportsbuck
                                                It's just so tough to imagine Rose playing somewhere else, being a Chicago kid born and raised and all. I think it's the right move for both sides at this point, though.
                                                I bet it's not so tough for a lot of Bulls fans.

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                                                  • Teddy_Long
                                                    MVP
                                                    • Jul 2003
                                                    • 2458
                                                    #958
                                                    re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                                    Originally posted by Vni
                                                    I bet it's not so tough for a lot of Bulls fans.
                                                    hilarious lol

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                                                      • Vni
                                                        Hall Of Fame
                                                        • Sep 2011
                                                        • 14833
                                                        #959
                                                        re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                                        I hear rumours that the bulls would want Wiggins with that #5 pick for Butler.

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                                                          • JazzMan
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                                                            • Feb 2012
                                                            • 13547
                                                            #960
                                                            re: 2016 NBA Offseason Thread

                                                            Originally posted by Vni
                                                            I hear rumours that the bulls would want Wiggins with that #5 pick for Butler.
                                                            That's ridiculous lol
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