NBA MVP: Stephen Curry

[wco81]

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Orinda is very nice but $3.8 million is modest for many parts of the Bay Area.

He's on a "bargain" contract right now but he's got to have money from UA and the commercials he's now getting.

When the team eventually moves to SF, then the property prices will really get ridiculous because then they'll be bidding for homes against tech and startup millionaires and billionaires buying up homes in the City and nearby Marin with views of the Bay.

Was looking at one of Aisha's videos and she's cooking bacon but she admits sheepishly that she paid a lot for "bougie" bacon at Whole Foods, though she normally buys regular bacon for the recipe.

The kitchen shown in the video looks fairly modest for a $4 million home. After Curry signs a max contract next year, she may not do much cooking.

But they don't yet seem to be so much into showing off the money or bling. The post-game conference yesterday night, Steph looked like he was wearing generic J Crew stuff while Draymond is in some hideous black leather jacket (which probably cost a ridiculous amount of money) with some kind of blingy earrings and so on.

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Orinda is very nice but $3.8 million is modest for many parts of the Bay Area.

He's on a "bargain" contract right now but he's got to have money from UA and the commercials he's now getting.

When the team eventually moves to SF, then the property prices will really get ridiculous because then they'll be bidding for homes against tech and startup millionaires and billionaires buying up homes in the City and nearby Marin with views of the Bay.

Was looking at one of Aisha's videos and she's cooking bacon but she admits sheepishly that she paid a lot for "bougie" bacon at Whole Foods, though she normally buys regular bacon for the recipe.

The kitchen shown in the video looks fairly modest for a $4 million home. After Curry signs a max contract next year, she may not do much cooking.

But they don't yet seem to be so much into showing off the money or bling. The post-game conference yesterday night, Steph looked like he was wearing generic J Crew stuff while Draymond is in some hideous black leather jacket (which probably cost a ridiculous amount of money) with some kind of blingy earrings and so on.

Ayesha ended up with a show on the food network so she'll be cooking some kind of way.

I'm sure Steph has a little something but thats about to get alot bigger and possibky even when UA renews his contract. If they offered KD 300 million or whatever it was they had better not slight Steph.

[Hockeynut99]

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It is a nice area and my sister house is worth a cool 3 million. But I just don't think it is a pro player area lol. So I am sure he will move soon.

[Smallville102001]

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Curry won't come close to MJ's career accomplishments, in terms of numbers or rings.

He won't sell a ton of shoes and nobody will ever look up videos of his dunks.

But his ball handling and passing matches up very well with Jordan or anybody else.

Curry won't have a real high percentage for shots in the paint either but it wouldn't be impossible for him to have a season where he shoots with great efficiency in the paint.

I have to admit I had doubts about the Warriors drafting him and about them trading Monta so that he'd be the main guy. Now I'm just glad he's on the Warriors.

Again, he won't come close to Jordan's on court accomplishments or endorsement money. But pound for pound, he's as skilled as any player -- it has to be skills because he's not athletically gifted by NBA standards.

However, I don't know how long he could sustain this run. He's making high-difficulty shots against taller, more athletic defenders at a high rate now but injuries and age could stop that in a couple of years. He doesn't have the advantage of being physically superior to those defending him like Jordan and other all time great players, who all could score most of their points much closer to the basket.

Last season, they said he was the best shooter off the dribble ever. So many people thought the real MVP should have been Harden. During the Finals, Lebron referred to himself as the greatest player in the world, as if in consolation for the fact that he was going to lose. This year, Curry showed improvement and fewer people said all he's great at is shooting. And fewer people are questioning his MVP.

I find Harden overrated he doesn't have even close to the handles of Curry. Curry is a much better shooter and a better passer to. Harden gets way and I mean way to many calls. If he didn't get so many calls his PPG average and FG% would drop a lot. Its hard to know how much any player is going to last but Curry is a great shooter and has great handles to and that is a deadly combination and shooting tends to be one of the last skills to go and he doesn't rely on athleticism. For as many 3s has he takes he still scores a good amount in the paint and still shoots a good % in the pain to. Guys who don't tend to rely on athleticism tend to age better then guys who do. That is a big reason why a guy like Howard I think is going to really suck in about 2-3 years. All he has ever been able to do is dunk. For as big of a guy has Oneal was when he played he had post moves. Howard is like 30 and he is about as good has Oneal was at like 36. I know that he plays Center not PG but my point is guys who rely on athleticism are going to have a harder time when they get older. Another example was Kobe yes he was athletic when he was younger but he improved his jump shoot, post moves and foot work a lot over time. If he hadn't he wouldn't have last like he did. So Curry should be able to last a while if not for injures.

[Strangerstake]

NBA MVP: Stephen Curry

I find Harden overrated he doesn't have even close to the handles of Curry. Curry is a much better shooter and a better passer to. Harden gets way and I mean way to many calls. If he didn't get so many calls his PPG average and FG% would drop a lot. Its hard to know how much any player is going to last but Curry is a great shooter and has great handles to and that is a deadly combination and shooting tends to be one of the last skills to go and he doesn't rely on athleticism. For as many 3s has he takes he still scores a good amount in the paint and still shoots a good % in the pain to. Guys who don't tend to rely on athleticism tend to age better then guys who do. That is a big reason why a guy like Howard I think is going to really suck in about 2-3 years. All he has ever been able to do is dunk. For as big of a guy has Oneal was when he played he had post moves. Howard is like 30 and he is about as good has Oneal was at like 36. I know that he plays Center not PG but my point is guys who rely on athleticism are going to have a harder time when they get older. Another example was Kobe yes he was athletic when he was younger but he improved his jump shoot, post moves and foot work a lot over time. If he hadn't he wouldn't have last like he did. So Curry should be able to last a while if not for injures.

I agree that shooting is a skill that does not fade quickly, at least not during the few final years of previous great shooters (ray ray, nash, nowitzki, miller). Even in those final years, they shot better % than most players.

But i disagree that step does not rely on his athleticism. He is really quick with his hands and core body movements which is one reason(other than moving screens ) he is able to quickly pull up staggering shots, and this will fade sooner, it ll probably be noticeable around when hes 32/33 if he stays healthy and plays a good amount of games every season.

He ll probably end up his career playing key roles as a shooter pr sixth man in teams making deep playoff runs, similar to ray ray
Unless ofcourse he takes the mamba path



-----On mj vs steph-----
Steph is the greatest shooter Ever
Jordan is the greatest player Ever
Lebron is the greatest all round player since big O, havent seem O play a pot but numbers speak for itself


In a hypothetical 1v1 between steph and mj, i can see steph doing his things and draining shots here and there, but when michael has the ball in the post, game over lol

Luckily nba is 5on5 and a teamsport.

[King_B_Mack]

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Shooting isn't 'one of the last skills to go.' That **** never goes. I'd think Steve Kerr, Reggie Miller, Dell Curry, Kenny Smith, etc. would be proof of that. Those guys are all 50+ and if you put them on the court with a ball they can still light it up shooting it.


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[ProfessaPackMan]

NBA MVP: Stephen Curry

Not if you touch em up.

[Vni]

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Shooting isn't 'one of the last skills to go.' That **** never goes. I'd think Steve Kerr, Reggie Miller, Dell Curry, Kenny Smith, etc. would be proof of that. Those guys are all 50+ and if you put them on the court with a ball they can still light it up shooting it.


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No legs, no jumper. Sure they can still shoot in an empty gym though.

[VDusen04]

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No legs, no jumper. Sure they can still shoot in an empty gym though.

Not necessarily true. Spot-up shooters can often fire and hit until infinity. The legs issue comes into play with a lot of the other types of situations—pull-ups in transition, faders while eluding a double team, 15-seconds of isolation dribbling leading to a difficult leaner, etc.

A lot of shooters, NBA and otherwise, can calibrate their spot-up J's to live on for a long time, particularly if used in limited minutes.

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[Vni]

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Okay, makes sense.

[Strangerstake]

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Makes sense that these guys might still shoot pretty good in their late 30s/40s/50s, but having such players is a liability on defense though.

Look at Ray Allen in 2013-14 Heat, he played an incredible role as a spot up shooter, but he could not be relied on D.

[Smallville102001]

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Not if you touch em up.

You cant do that in this day in age it is just about impossible to even do a hard enough foul to take away a layup any more with out being called for a flagrant foul and a really hard foul is like a 5 game suspension in this day and age.

I agree that shooting is a skill that does not fade quickly, at least not during the few final years of previous great shooters (ray ray, nash, nowitzki, miller). Even in those final years, they shot better % than most players.

But i disagree that step does not rely on his athleticism. He is really quick with his hands and core body movements which is one reason(other than moving screens ) he is able to quickly pull up staggering shots, and this will fade sooner, it ll probably be noticeable around when hes 32/33 if he stays healthy and plays a good amount of games every season.

He ll probably end up his career playing key roles as a shooter pr sixth man in teams making deep playoff runs, similar to ray ray
Unless ofcourse he takes the mamba path



-----On mj vs steph-----
Steph is the greatest shooter Ever
Jordan is the greatest player Ever
Lebron is the greatest all round player since big O, havent seem O play a pot but numbers speak for itself


In a hypothetical 1v1 between steph and mj, i can see steph doing his things and draining shots here and there, but when michael has the ball in the post, game over lol

Luckily nba is 5on5 and a teamsport.

When I think of NBA players and athleticism I don't think of Curry. I am not saying he is slow or cant jump at all but there are a lot of guys who are faster then Curry and a lot of guys who can jump out of the gym more then Curry can. I am not saying that Curry will not decline at all but I think he can play at a high level for a while. On average NBA players stat to decline at about 31 years old and tend to have a big drop around 33. I am not saying that Curry is going to be 35 and making 400 3pointers and shooting 50% over all and scoring 30 PPG lol. But I think he can be at a all star level for a while. Look at a guy like Wade. He is 34 and yes he is not in his prime any more but he is still really good and still better then a lot of other NBA players and Wade was much more athletic then Curry is when Wade was in his prime.

[Rocket32]

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Definately well deserved, this year and last year. Some of the things Curry does are amazing. Can't believe some of those 3's he hits, easily the best player in the NBA right now. And yes I have not forgot about Lebron.

[Strangerstake]

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Definately well deserved, this year and last year. Some of the things Curry does are amazing. Can't believe some of those 3's he hits, easily the best player in the NBA right now. And yes I have not forgot about Lebron.

IMO steph has used his 3 point game and range to define his game and is easily the best player right now as he has the ability to easily score more points then he gives up

On the other hand Lebron is the still the best overall player today, he does everything on the floor, close second is kwahi, or more like 1a/1b situation

Lebron is slightly more impactful than kwahi though, he has the ability to take over games

Put kwahi in cavs and james in spurs,
Would cavs be 8-0? Or would the warriors be facing spurs sunday?

[allBthere]

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Why is Westbrook not considered the best, or even in the conversation? To me he is the most athletic player in the league and puts up an insane number of triple doubles...