The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

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  • 23
    yellow
    • Sep 2002
    • 66469

    #2431
    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

    Originally posted by VDusen04
    Like I said, when the body begins to go, the gritty stuff goes first; the will to score tends to be the last to go. (Though also, the multiple time-outs and garbage time buckets against little resistance isn't the same as grinding through the mid-point of the period when play is carrying on with limited stoppage).

    Then again, James could have been fine. But if your supporting cast can't keep up, that's when you're going to see guys no longer back cutting, no longer passing and moving, watching loose balls happen instead of seizing them, etc.

    Don't know if that's the reason why they ran into a wall, but I definitely don't think it's crazy to consider.
    Didnt stop lebron from pushing on steph on the sidelines.

    Thats not gritty enough?

    Actually he probably didn't have enough help doing that honestly.

    Domino effect

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    • Justin7
      Pro
      • Oct 2014
      • 533

      #2432
      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

      Originally posted by wco81
      LBJ, Kyrie and one other guy played the whole second half for Cavs.


      Of all the complaints about the officiating, how do the refs just let LBJ grab Curry and jerk him back without a call?

      There's only one MJ but if you breathed on him too hard, you got called for a foul.

      And this is suppose to be the "soft" era of the NBA with no physical play allowed?
      The officiating was terrible both ways. Refs called fouls when there shouldn't have been and didn't when there should have been. I thought if any team got the worse end of the stick is cavs by a small margin. As for 3 cavs playing whole second half. kyrie he needs more rest and more time for Delly or split minutes with Dell and mo williams. As for bron he needs to play like 40-43 minutes a game. He has been here before and has played whole second half before and takes care of his body. It'd be nice if he could sit longer but cavs need him on floor and don't have a reliable option to back him up really. But cavs need either kyrie or bron on floor at all times.

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      • VDusen04
        Hall Of Fame
        • Aug 2003
        • 13031

        #2433
        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

        Originally posted by 23
        Didnt stop lebron from pushing on steph on the sidelines.

        Thats not gritty enough?

        Actually he probably didn't have enough help doing that honestly.

        Domino effect
        I'm not sure I follow. I think I was gone for the domino effect thing. Is that an acknowledgement that fatigue could have been an issue or sarcasm?

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        • ojandpizza
          Hall Of Fame
          • Apr 2011
          • 29807

          #2434
          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

          Originally posted by VDusen04
          Tough to know what those guys were actually feeling, but judging off of the late breakdowns in terms of no longer moving without the ball, combined with a drop in pursuit of loose balls and work on the boards, they really did seem fatigued.



          LeBron James = 46 minutes, Kyrie Irving and J.R. Smith = 43 minutes. It's not really something that a few days of rest is going to help. If you hit a breaking point in a single game, certain aspects of the game are going to have to give; oftentimes, it's the little things and gritty stuff that goes first.



          And if you were just being sarcastic, then ignore me.


          They looked tired at the start of the 4th when Curry/Klay were resting.

          Thought that was a poor move by Lue to leave them in. Though had they managed to build a lead with those guys sitting I guess it would have paid off.

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          • PabloLFC
            Banned
            • Dec 2015
            • 638

            #2435
            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

            It's 23 talking in riddles again, it gets boring after the first 8000 times in a day.

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            • dubcity
              Hall Of Fame
              • May 2012
              • 17874

              #2436
              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

              Lue like a mini Pop, lol. Ain't having some of these questions.

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              • lilteapot
                MVP
                • Aug 2013
                • 4550

                #2437
                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                I don't think I want to watch basketball anymore.

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #2438
                  Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                  Originally posted by cima
                  You guys seriously crack me up. You can't acknowledge the original post without bringing somebody else up that's not part of the original post. Love played terrible defense, stood around on the perimeter like a doofus on offense in the 4th, and gave up multiple offensive rebounds as the lone big man on the floor. Sorry but "grabbing a few big boards (which is bull**** by the way, he had 1 offensive rebound) doesn't negate being a huge liability on defense and letting Andy own your *** on the boards.

                  But you wanna talk about Richard Jefferson because you don't want to admit that Love is a liability? Step up your troll game.
                  What the hell are you talking about cima? The whole point of the discussion was Love being on the bench in favor of Richard Jefferson. Love had 5 rebounds and 11 points on 3-6 shooting in 25 mintues. You wanted him to grab double digit rebounds in the limited minutes benching him provided? That's his role on the team because LeBron can't adjust his game to the pieces around him. Hover around the 3 point line. He's not going to grab a ton of offensive rebounds like Tristan's offensively garbage *** because his role has been relegated to standing around the perimeter waiting for someone to throw him the ball for a three pointer.

                  Now, what exactly did Richard Jefferson do with his second straight game of starter minutes besides stand on the same court the Warriors were playing on to justify Love's minutes being cut for him? Don't worry, I'll wait.

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                  • The 24th Letter
                    ERA
                    • Oct 2007
                    • 39373

                    #2439
                    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                    Originally posted by VDusen04
                    I'm not sure I follow. I think I was gone for the domino effect thing. Is that an acknowledgement that fatigue could have been an issue or sarcasm?
                    Dusen, this is forum equivalent of 'garbage time'....i would save the logical posts for tommorow, lol

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                    • cima
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2004
                      • 13478

                      #2440
                      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                      Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                      But nah forreal, where was that domino effect at though?
                      You watched the game right? Did you miss the part where the lead opened up for GS when Love was on the floor or you just wanna troll?

                      For as much **** as you all give me for memes and ****, you all make more **** posts about running jokes, mocking what's been said on this forum, or posting your own memes than actually discussing basketball.

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                      • ojandpizza
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Apr 2011
                        • 29807

                        #2441
                        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                        Originally posted by VDusen04
                        I'm not sure I follow. I think I was gone for the domino effect thing. Is that an acknowledgement that fatigue could have been an issue or sarcasm?


                        It's neither.. #trolljob lol

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                        • 23
                          yellow
                          • Sep 2002
                          • 66469

                          #2442
                          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                          Originally posted by VDusen04
                          I'm not sure I follow. I think I was gone for the domino effect thing. Is that an acknowledgement that fatigue could have been an issue or sarcasm?
                          Nope..reference to a Cima post earlier in the thread about Kevin Love.. that wasn't for you though.


                          Originally posted by PabloLFC
                          It's 23 talking in riddles again, it gets boring after the first 8000 times in a day.

                          Im not talking in riddles at all.

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                          • ProfessaPackMan
                            Bamma
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 63852

                            #2443
                            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                            Originally posted by ojandpizza
                            They looked tired at the start of the 4th when Curry/Klay were resting.

                            Thought that was a poor move by Lue to leave them in. Though had they managed to build a lead with those guys sitting I guess it would have paid off.
                            I actually liked the decision to keep them in at that time.

                            I just didn't think they would revert back to their Game 1/2 ways with Curry/Klay on the bench.

                            They basically shot themselves in the foot right there.
                            #RespectTheCulture

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                            • King_B_Mack
                              All Star
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 24450

                              #2444
                              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                              Kevin Love taking the fall again when Kyrie reverting back to Kyrieball is what allowed GS to start pulling away because the offense went in the trash can at that point. But this tea over here so damn good I'mma just drink that.

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                              • SeaTownGamer
                                MVP
                                • Jul 2015
                                • 1551

                                #2445
                                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                                This is my 3rd straight Kevin Love post and I'm done. The dude needs his minutes cut. If he is a chicken and is afraid to bang his body down low he needs to sit down. He was outrebounded, outplayed and just camp outside on the perimeter instead of banging down low. Idk if it's Lue or LBJ but they are giving him too much free pass. Thompson needs more minutes. Shumpert doesn't belong out there. And where is Mosgov?
                                Last edited by SeaTownGamer; 06-10-2016, 11:37 PM.

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