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  • ProfessaPackMan
    Bamma
    • Mar 2008
    • 63852

    #91
    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

    Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
    um because GSW is much better at it. if you think CLE can out warriors the Warriors well then bold strategy cotton. the better odds are low possessions and low pace type games


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    This article speaks on some of the things you mentioned in regards to their pace:

    The Cleveland Cavaliers are back in the NBA Finals. This time, they're fully healthy and propelled by their suddenly dynamic offense.


    I do agree with you overall about Cleveland dictating the pace and keeping GS' possessions as low as possible.
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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #92
      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

      KD said in his press conference basically they were hoping GS just missed shots they usually make. If that's what CLE wants to do then theyre in for it.

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      • jeebs9
        Fear is the Unknown
        • Oct 2008
        • 47568

        #93
        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

        Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
        This article speaks on some of the things you mentioned in regards to their pace:

        The Cleveland Cavaliers are back in the NBA Finals. This time, they're fully healthy and propelled by their suddenly dynamic offense.


        I do agree with you overall about Cleveland dictating the pace and keeping GS' possessions as low as possible.
        Thank for this!! Since I've got my new job. I've been staying away from these sites. Guess I better keep loking around.

        Originally posted by 23
        KD said in his press conference basically they were hoping GS just missed shots they usually make. If that's what CLE wants to do then theyre in for it.
        hahaha... I'm sorry .. But that has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
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        • DJ_Solis
          MVP
          • Jan 2014
          • 2216

          #94
          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

          Just some quick thoughts:
          -Will Kerr start with Dray at C from the jump? I think that lineup works well against their starters and I wouldn't want to see Bron get any quick starts with Iguodala on the bench.
          -In the beginning of the second and fourth quarters, Kerr likes to play the trash lineup with no starters and Cleveland could have a big advantage there if he doesn't change the regular rotation. Especially if Frye keeps shooting 751% from three.
          -How will the Cavs guard the Curry pnr? Or just the Warriors in general? It's gonna be hard to take away the threes without giving up easy ones in the lane seeing as they have no real rim protector.
          -This is gonna be a small series. I think we'll see a whole lot of Bron at the four.
          -Livingston should be a reliable scoring option unlike the last series. He had a lot of trouble backing down Waiters and Foye in his few opportunities but shouldn't have that much of a problem with Kyrie or Delly.
          -Love looked absolutely clueless and lazy guarding the pnr in the two games from the regular season. We already know the Warriors are planning to attack him, I'm just wondering how the Cavs will attempt to counter.
          -Kyrie has typically played very well against the Warriors and I don't see why that would change now.
          -Klay was a non factor in terms of individual offensive production in the Finals last year. Overall, Klay has had a much better playoffs this year and I expect to see that trend continue.


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          • 23
            yellow
            • Sep 2002
            • 66469

            #95
            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

            Originally posted by jeebs9
            Thank for this!! Since I've got my new job. I've been staying away from these sites. Guess I better keep loking around.



            hahaha... I'm sorry .. But that has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard.
            Well they had to give something up and probably banked on their length eventually wearing on GS but it backfired

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            • 10
              Trequartista
              • Jun 2013
              • 247

              #96
              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

              Originally posted by BleacherBum2310
              honestly CLE best strategy is to muck it up and slow the pace down. But with their personnel now they won't do that. TT is great Offensive rebounder but he's not Adams. also alot of OKC open shots were by design.


              He won't be able to protect the rim the way Adams and Ibaka did or rebound like Adams either. The way they have their guards screen and cut we're in store for a lot of JR and Shumpert 1 on 1's at the rim with Klay and Steph.

              You're probably right about the Cavs slowing the pace down but I'm not sure how effective they can be if they do that. They are built to launch 3's and rely on them just as much as the Warriors.

              At this point, is there really anything you can do but hope they miss? To be fair to KD they did miss for awhile and long enough for them to have easily won in 6. What can you possibly do to stop some of those shots from going in? Guards have to do a better job of fighting through screens set by Barnes, Iggy, and Steph/Klay. If the Warriors shoot like they did in games 1 and 3-5.5 the Cavs will take advantage of it and score more than the Thunder. They will not give games away like KD and Russ did.
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              • jeebs9
                Fear is the Unknown
                • Oct 2008
                • 47568

                #97
                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                Originally posted by 10
                He won't be able to protect the rim the way Adams and Ibaka did or rebound like Adams either. The way they have their guards screen and cut we're in store for a lot of JR and Shumpert 1 on 1's at the rim with Klay and Steph.

                You're probably right about the Cavs slowing the pace down but I'm not sure how effective they can be if they do that. They are built to launch 3's and rely on them just as much as the Warriors.

                At this point, is there really anything you can do but hope they miss? To be fair to KD they did miss for awhile and long enough for them to have easily won in 6. What can you possibly do to stop some of those shots from going in? Guards have to do a better job of fighting through screens set by Barnes, Iggy, and Steph/Klay. If the Warriors shoot like they did in games 1 and 3-5.5 the Cavs will take advantage of it and score more than the Thunder. They will not give games away like KD and Russ did.
                Agree!!

                The Warriors better not fall asleep on Frye. Too often I see teams just lose him in the shuffle.

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                • 49UNCFan
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                  • Aug 2010
                  • 2460

                  #98
                  Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                  I see Barnes having a better series
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                  • NYJets
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 18637

                    #99
                    Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                    Originally posted by cima
                    But that's cause the EC sucks though, right?
                    Just because you said it in a mocking way doesn't mean there's not a lot of truth to it.
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                    • ojandpizza
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Apr 2011
                      • 29807

                      #100
                      Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                      Just read that the league is reviewing the play where Draymond basically DDT'd himself and Adams.

                      I definitely thought that was a tech/flagrant whatever during real time. But I would rather not see it called as one now as it basically does no good, and no reason for him to be suspended for a completely separate series. Would rather see both squads at 100%.

                      Probably wouldn't matter all that much for game 1 at GS, but the issue would be that he would be suspended for each one after that as well.. And I'm sure he could be baited into another.


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                      • Justin7
                        Pro
                        • Oct 2014
                        • 533

                        #101
                        Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                        Originally posted by ojandpizza
                        Just read that the league is reviewing the play where Draymond basically DDT'd himself and Adams.

                        I definitely thought that was a tech/flagrant whatever during real time. But I would rather not see it called as one now as it basically does no good, and no reason for him to be suspended for a completely separate series. Would rather see both squads at 100%.

                        Probably wouldn't matter all that much for game 1 at GS, but the issue would be that he would be suspended for each one after that as well.. And I'm sure he could be baited into another.


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                        I know everyone wants to have each team at full strength but then players might just be like i can get away with this, it's too big of a game, they won't punish me. Can't just not punish someone when he deserves or should get ejected or suspended. He has kicked Adams twice now, tripped kanter a few games ago although I never see the replay of the trip and now a DDT to where he could have hurt himself and Adams badly. That is too many things to not warrant punishment even if its the WCF and finals. I mean JR got suspended 2 games against the bulls for a backhand in a series against the Celtics.

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                        • ProfessaPackMan
                          Bamma
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 63852

                          #102
                          Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                          Man, he doesn't need to be suspended.

                          And when did JR Smith all of a sudden become such a pariah too? We got both of these teams at "full strength" so I'm not trying to have any shenanigans from the previous series to carry over into this one.
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                          • 49UNCFan
                            MVP
                            • Aug 2010
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                            #103
                            Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                            No suspension is warranted at this point...It was just old style nba ball
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                            • ojandpizza
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2011
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                              #104
                              Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                              Originally posted by 49UNCFan
                              No suspension is warranted at this point...It was just old style nba ball


                              Well that play obviously wouldn't deserve a suspension, but if ruled a flagrant that would be the outcome. By league rules it should indeed be a flagrant, I'm just hoping they keep the ruling at a common double foul.

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                              • ojandpizza
                                Hall Of Fame
                                • Apr 2011
                                • 29807

                                #105
                                Re: The Finals: Cleveland Cavaliers vs. Golden St. Warriors Part 2

                                Realistically Cleveland is winning in 4.. Love is still 15-0 in the playoffs.. In America lol


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