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Jordan Mychal Lemos
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Does Michael Jordan's name have the same impact as before?
I do think it's ironic that some people are so stuck in one time frame that they simply refuse to acknowledge that over time players do progress, there is a development both athletically and all around skill.
People say/said "basketball is much better now in 95 compared to 65" and things like that. 30 years of growing will do that.. Now 30 years later people want to act as if it's basically regressed.. That's silly, and goes completely against logic whether you even watch the sport or not.
I've watched the NBA for a long time. I'll take the average player right now over any other era. And 15 years from now it will be the same thing again. Idk how anyone can justifiably ignore progression without completely bias.
With that said, your Magic, Jordan, and so on. The all time greats are going to be all time greats at any point in time. But it's nearly impossible to bring a player forward in time and know how they would be 30 years later.
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MJ rarely played the point and when he did he was usually out-quicked. I think he would have a hard time defending the ultra-quick Lillard. On the other end, MJ would have his way with Lillard, posting him up easily and blasting to the basket.
MJ would dominate Klay Thompson on both ends though. Sitting on his right hand and dodging the weak side screens set up for Klay. In the attack zone, Jordan would toast Thompson's average D.Last edited by AlexBrady; 06-22-2016, 07:54 PM.Comment
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Jordan's ancient moves were moves that people still have problems defending today. Kobe is a good example of that. He didn't master those moves like Jordan did but he still used them effectively. That fake fade away pivot up and under Kobe used is Jordan's move. Jordan was also good with his feet. His pivot and jab still is something I don't see in a lot of players games today. His pump fake always made defenders jump because of his shooting ability. He doesn't dribble like Lillard. He's a point guard but you hardly ever saw MJ being careless with the ball. It was really difficult to strip the ball from him. & Klay?? lol He'll shut him down and Score on him at will. Klay can't even consistently knock down shots in the finals. MJ will easily trash talk him out of his game. It will get so bad that he will actually tell Klay what he's doing before he does it.Comment
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He wasn't serious with the Lillard/Klay post lol.
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To the point of your OP, I don't think anyone who's watched MJ have forgotten about him, or devalue him any.
But you have to realize someone who never watched him play likely isn't going to give him the same praise. You go back far enough and there are people who don't put MJ over the likes of Wilt, Russell, Big O..
Hell we've got the even younger generation now that have already placed Curry ahead of Bron, Duncan, Kobe, Shaq..
It's just how it goes.
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How much is Nike responsible for Jordan's all-time standing? Without that marketing, my sense is Kareem would be considered by more to be the best.After more than eight years on here, I finally figured out how to edit my time zone!Comment
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Nike brought Jordan into people's homes with those commercials. They made it acceptable for a black guy to be an icon. His on court game was absolutely the best though. MJ and Oscar Robertson are the most complete wings/guards ever.
Kareem was a dreadnaught scorer with a dreadnaught shot, the skyhook. His defense and rebounding was mostly a function of his 7-2 height. His lateral movement was limited so he had a tough time reacting to drives and change of directions. A truly great player, but Wilt and Russell had more complete games.Comment
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I grew up in the MJ dominance era and I actually think Jordan, the brand is bigger than MJ the basketball player. That's not saying I don't think he's the GOAT but more of a testament to how huge his shoe empire is. I can't blame kids these days for not knowing about something they never grew up seeing.Comment
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Jordan did as much for Nike back then as they're doing for him and his brand now. Any of you youngin's remember Converse Weapons? They were heavy marketing all time greats like Bird, Magic, Barkley and Ewing... never even sniffed the success of Nike's Jordans. Nike as a brand was in heavy competition with Adidas among others until the Jordan marketing tornado touched ground.
Seriously, Jordan was just THAT guy and Nike got him at the right time. If you didn't watch him you really can't fathom how big he was (not even commenting on how good he was... correlated bc it was a large reason for him being so big).Comment
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It's not just the shoes though, Jordan was literally the first NBA player to fully exploit the potential of creating a brand through advertising, his shoe business, AND being a media presence outside of the basketball arena. The man had foresight that even the most successful brand makers in the NBA today lack. Lebron James however is one guy who totally gets it to the point that he's basically following Jordan's plan step for step.Member of the Official OS Bills Backers Club
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I love MJ & think he's by far away better than Lebron or Kobe or Curry or anyone that has come after him. But still, the game is bigger than anyone player & we don't have to stay rooted in the past to move forward. If anything, with the concussion problem football will always have just by it's nature, I think the NBA will only close the gap on the NFL even though they can never hope to be equals to the NFL. As long as they can stay equal to or ahead of baseball in urban areas, basketball will be just fine. If anything, basketball is more threatened by soccer than baseball, but even then....T-BONE.
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Michael Who?Comment
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