11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

[Vni]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

The history of the world is littered with juggernauts falling. Add the Lakers to the list in tonight's Finals preview matchup. Sorry Vni, see you for the sweep and victory parade in Grant Park in June.

King, sit in this chair, look at me in the eyes and answer this simple question for me :

How old is really Deng ?

A:

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31 years old.

B:

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41 years old.

C:

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He actually played a big part in WW2.

D:

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You rather remain silent.

[Vni]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

Seems like the right call to me. They timed it in Secaucus, right? As long as the time adds up in the review then it's the right call, IMO.

How is it fair when the Raptors had no way in knowing the clock wasn't right ? They would have taken the shot earlier if the clock had been right and accounted for Cousins's deflection. I'd feel pretty ripped off.

[BluFu]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

Can't play guessing games against the official clock. Very bad call on the Raps

[fluent2332]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

How is it fair when the Raptors had no way in knowing the clock wasn't right ? They would have taken the shot earlier if the clock had been right and accounted for Cousins's deflection. I'd feel pretty ripped off.

How would it be fair to the Kings if they replayed the sequence or counted the bucket? Cousins made a great defensive play and the clock legally started ticking (in Seacaucus, where I assume they added it up later during the review).

To me it was absolutely the right call.

[Vni]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

How would it be fair to the Kings if they replayed the sequence or counted the bucket? Cousins made a great defensive play and the clock legally started ticking (in Seacaucus, where I assume they added it up later during the review).

To me it was absolutely the right call.

It's not fair but the refs or clock guys made a mistake and it went on. Raptors took the shot on time looking at the official clock.

[fluent2332]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

Also, you're presuming they would have shot earlier. That is unknown. What is known is that the ball was deflected, the clock legally should have started and the shot came too late based on the first 2 facts. And since the play was reviewed they can have Seacaucus add up the time difference to make sure the shot was good or late.

It's a simple call, IMO.

[fluent2332]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

It's not fair but the refs or clock guys made a mistake and it went on. Raptors took the shot on time looking at the official clock.

That's what review is for. They reviewed the play and determined it was no good. Whether or not Ross would have shot earlier is inconsequential because the more important fact was that Cousins tipped the ball to legally start the clock.

Any other outcome would have been unfair to the Kings.

[Vni]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

Can't even trust the official clock anymore, okay then.

[fluent2332]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

Can't even trust the official clock anymore, okay then.

Well you can say that about all reviewed plays. Can't trust the refs judgment on an out of bounds call, etc. The clocks are operated by humans, too.

[BluFu]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

That's what review is for. They reviewed the play and determined it was no good. Whether or not Ross would have shot earlier is inconsequential because the more important fact was that Cousins tipped the ball to legally start the clock.

Any other outcome would have been unfair to the Kings.

But the clock didn't start. If there was in error in the clock start time, it's the ref's responsibility to stop play. The refs failed to do this, so it's a play-on situation. Ross got it off in time.

[fluent2332]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

But the clock didn't start. If there was in error in the clock start time, it's the ref's responsibility to stop play. The refs failed to do this, so it's a play-on situation. Ross got it off in time.

But it is also a reviewable play, which overrides the ruling on the court.

[Vni]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

But it is also a reviewable play, which overrides the ruling on the court.

Review shows that Ross got the shot in time according to the shot clock. I mean that's pretty ridiculous.

[BluFu]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

But it is also a reviewable play, which overrides the ruling on the court.

The review is whether Ross got it off before the buzzer... and he did.

[fluent2332]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

Review shows that Ross got the shot in time according to the shot clock. I mean that's pretty ridiculous.

But the shot clock was wrong in this case. The "real" clock in the Review Center made the last call.

This is a one-shot-only call. Any outcome other than what happened would have been more unfair to the Kings. Whether or not the clock wasn't working, the Kings made the game-winning defensive play.

I'm also pretty sure I've seen games where the shot clock on one end didn't work at all and they still played. Someone correct me if I'm wrong?

[fluent2332]

Re: 11/16 - 11/21 Games Discussion Thread

The review is whether Ross got it off before the buzzer... and he did.

Not really, because the buzzer wasn't properly timed. Seacaucus reviewed it, added in the extra seconds/milliseconds to account for the ball being tipped and the determined the shot was late.