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  • DamnYanks2
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jun 2007
    • 20794

    #211
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by ehh
    It would be amazing if Ball fell to SAC. So, so good. They deserve each other.
    I'd pick Fultz, Jackson, Fox, and Tatum over Ball dead serious. I think Ball will be a solid pro, and maybe better. But I'm more enamored with those four honestly.


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    • SPTO
      binging
      • Feb 2003
      • 68046

      #212
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Apparently Ball is only going to work out for the Lakers.

      I tell ya, this kid is going to fail...HARD. He may have tons of talent but the attitude and idiocy between him and his father is just going to make it doubly hard for him to be a true talent in pro ball.

      He needs to fall in the draft and face some humility.
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      • ProfessaPackMan
        Bamma
        • Mar 2008
        • 63852

        #213
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        Originally posted by SPTO
        Apparently Ball is only going to work out for the Lakers.



        I tell ya, this kid is going to fail...HARD. He may have tons of talent but the attitude and idiocy between him and his father is just going to make it doubly hard for him to be a true talent in pro ball.



        He needs to fall in the draft and face some humility.
        I think you're overreacting a bit here.

        He's been pretty much out of the loop(as far as TV)since his season ended while his Pops has been the one making a fool out of himself so why does the son need to be humbled for?

        We've seen nothing from him since he declared to suggest that he's just like his Dad.
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        • Majingir
          Moderator
          • Apr 2005
          • 47491

          #214
          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

          Since people make NBA-WWE jokes at times, imagine after getting drafted, when signing his rookie contract, we see Ball turn on his dad Batista style lol

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          • SPTO
            binging
            • Feb 2003
            • 68046

            #215
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

            Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
            I think you're overreacting a bit here.

            He's been pretty much out of the loop(as far as TV)since his season ended while his Pops has been the one making a fool out of himself so why does the son need to be humbled for?

            We've seen nothing from him since he declared to suggest that he's just like his Dad.
            Good point, and maybe I am over reacting (I hope so because I hate to see someone with his apparent talent go down the tubes because of outside factors like that) but a part of me thinks one reason why we don't see Lonzo is because his father tells him to relax and let him handle everything.

            We'll certainly see how it goes but it would be a media circus if he ends up in LA.
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            • DamnYanks2
              Hall Of Fame
              • Jun 2007
              • 20794

              #216
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Yea Lonzo seems incredibly laid back and his UCLA teammates loved him. Lonzo is confident but not arrogant like his father.

              Nothing wrong with Lonzo. Lamelo is much more like Lavar, he's always talking. Think that apple doesn't fall too far from the tree.



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              • redsox4evur
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                • Jul 2013
                • 18169

                #217
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                Yea I haven't followed these prospects that much (pretty much for a like a month at most). I haven't even heard Lonzo say anything it's all been LaVar.


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                • Yeah...THAT Guy
                  Once in a Lifetime Memory
                  • Dec 2006
                  • 17294

                  #218
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                  I think you're overreacting a bit here.

                  He's been pretty much out of the loop(as far as TV)since his season ended while his Pops has been the one making a fool out of himself so why does the son need to be humbled for?

                  We've seen nothing from him since he declared to suggest that he's just like his Dad.

                  Agreed. Lonzo's personality seems fine to me. And while his dad is annoying as hell, it wouldn't deter me from drafting Lonzo.

                  I just think Lonzo is overrated as a prospect personally. I have him around #7 in this class.


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                  • DamnYanks2
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 20794

                    #219
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    I really think if the Knicks get Monk, they'll end up being pretty happy. He'd be a steal at eight.

                    If Booker's game translated that quickly to the NBA, I don't see how Monk's doesn't, he can flat out shoot and score. Only reason he isn't higher on most Mocks, he had poor rebounding and assist numbers.



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                    • Majingir
                      Moderator
                      • Apr 2005
                      • 47491

                      #220
                      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                      Anyone else laughing at the 400-500 people who actually bought those shoes?

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                      • DamnYanks2
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Jun 2007
                        • 20794

                        #221
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        Originally posted by Majingir
                        Anyone else laughing at the 400-500 people who actually bought those shoes?
                        Didn't they come with a autograph too, which might be worth the investment. But the shoes themselves are ugly imo. I'd have to be a really big Ball fan to pay that much.

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                        • Yeah...THAT Guy
                          Once in a Lifetime Memory
                          • Dec 2006
                          • 17294

                          #222
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Originally posted by DamnYanks2
                          Didn't they come with a autograph too, which might be worth the investment. But the shoes themselves are ugly imo. I'd have to be a really big Ball fan to pay that much.

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                          Only comes with an autograph if they spent $1000 instead of the normal $500.

                          At any rate, I don't think there's any reason to believe Lavar was telling the truth when he said 400-500 pairs.


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                          • DamnYanks2
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                            #223
                            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                            Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                            Only comes with an autograph if they spent $1000 instead of the normal $500.

                            At any rate, I don't think there's any reason to believe Lavar was telling the truth when he said 400-500 pairs.


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                            Yea well nevermind **** that. There's not an athletes shoes I'd pay that much for with or without a autograph... minus Michael Jordan.

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                            • wwharton
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2002
                              • 26949

                              #224
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              I don't think Lonzo deserves heat but I think only working out for the Lakers is the first tangible step of his father negatively impacting his NBA career (those shoes was the first of him effecting his marketing career).

                              I like the kid, but I'm not sure he's a #2 pick in this year's draft, especially to a team that probably has bigger needs in other areas. If he doesn't go top 2 it's no telling how far he can drop after refusing to work out for anyone else.

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                              • Majingir
                                Moderator
                                • Apr 2005
                                • 47491

                                #225
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                Originally posted by Yeah...THAT Guy
                                Only comes with an autograph if they spent $1000 instead of the normal $500.

                                At any rate, I don't think there's any reason to believe Lavar was telling the truth when he said 400-500 pairs.


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                                Maybe he did sell 400-500 pairs....Just how many of them did he buy himself lol.

                                Originally posted by wwharton
                                I don't think Lonzo deserves heat but I think only working out for the Lakers is the first tangible step of his father negatively impacting his NBA career (those shoes was the first of him effecting his marketing career).

                                I like the kid, but I'm not sure he's a #2 pick in this year's draft, especially to a team that probably has bigger needs in other areas. If he doesn't go top 2 it's no telling how far he can drop after refusing to work out for anyone else.
                                In sports though, off-field stuff doesn't seem to impact guys roles as much as it probably should. Look at NFL and how many guys get suspended for bad things that are their faults and teams still give them second and third chances simply because what they can do in the game. In this situation at least, it's not so much Lonzo but his dad, so I doubt it really hurts anything.

                                Though you never know what GMs might be thinking. Maybe some just don't want to have to deal with all the off-court drama that could happen because of drafting him. Lakers especially where you KNOW it'll be the most annoying of any possible city. Go to Minnesota or something, media won't care as much about him there compared to LA,Boston,Philly.

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