2017 Offseason Thread

[33JAF]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

Casspi and Young aren't really any good, but since they signed with GS, now it's "not fair" how they are getting better.

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[BleacherBum2310]

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But Brad Stevens doesn't believe in or worry about positions....

Apparently, you can win with nearly 1/4 of your roster playing the same position, terrible frontcourt depth and not having addressed the big need at center. I guess Tyler Zeller will man the middle, now.

from Bills Backer/Spurs Nation HQ

Actually Yeah. I mean they won alot of games with a banged up Amir Johnson. and the rebounding thing is such an overstated need everyone thinks the C's have. interior defense moreso than rebounding they need and there still alot of decent backup bigs out their but if this is the roster they will be just fine.

[cima]

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It's ****ing hilarious that Gordon freakin Hayward is causing all this ruckus. Dude ain't the game changer the C's need. Spare me all this small market whining too. Suns biggest FA signing was Nash and he only became what he did because of Dantoni. Good GMs draft well, make good trades, and you can get lucky like GS with a solid FA signing


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[jeebs9]

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What are the celtics going to do with so many talented SF/PF players lol?

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While you got this going on in summer league. Doesn't mean much. They are set for the future.
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[redsox4evur]

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It's ****ing hilarious that Gordon freakin Hayward is causing all this ruckus. Dude ain't the game changer the C's need. Spare me all this small market whining too. Suns biggest FA signing was Nash and he only became what he did because of Dantoni. Good GMs draft well, make good trades, and you can get lucky like GS with a solid FA signing


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Please enlighten me how taking the scoring pressure off of IT and a 2nd legit scorer isn't a huge need for the Celtics? Because I'm pretty sure outside of a good defensive big who can rebound that was our biggest need on this team. Our 2nd best scorer last year was Al Horford, if he's your second best scorer that's not good.

[33JAF]

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What are the celtics going to do with so many talented SF/PF players lol?

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While you got this going on in summer league. Doesn't mean much. They are set for the future.
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Right, jeebs? All this talk of Boston having too many wings is like complaining about having too much money.

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[J_Posse]

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Actually Yeah. I mean they won alot of games with a banged up Amir Johnson. and the rebounding thing is such an overstated need everyone thinks the C's have. interior defense moreso than rebounding they need and there still alot of decent backup bigs out their but if this is the roster they will be just fine.

When they get murder in the paint come playoff time (or sooner), I promise that I won't say "I told you so."

With all their assets and pieces, yet they haven't drafted, traded for or signed an elite big man (I love Horford, but he isn't elite).

Not Cousins, Aldridge (2 years ago), Griffin, etc. Blake would have been a much, much better signing, although injury concerns are huge. Going small and playing guys out of position won't matter when LeBron is a better PG/SG/SF/PF than everyone on your roster.

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[dubcity]

Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

It's ****ing hilarious that Gordon freakin Hayward is causing all this ruckus. Dude ain't the game changer the C's need. Spare me all this small market whining too. Suns biggest FA signing was Nash and he only became what he did because of Dantoni. Good GMs draft well, make good trades, and you can get lucky like GS with a solid FA signing


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He isn't a game changer, and any team with Isaiah Thomas as the 1 or 2 option isn't competing for a ring ever, but we needed a top FA story this year so we got one.

[Caveman24]

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Casspi and Young aren't really any good, but since they signed with GS, now it's "not fair" how they are getting better.

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Nick Young shot 40% from 3 for us last season. I wouldn't he's not any good.

[z Revis]

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Otto Porter is willing to leave a 50 win team to join a 20 win Nets team for less money. Allen Crabbe was ready to do the samething last offseason as well.


Don't forget, Horford left Atlanta to go to Boston, who haven't signed a meaningful FA prior to that in years.

When should we expect Paul George to demand a trade out of OKC? Should happen soon since that's a small market too, right?

Ok so what's you're point here? Winning doesn't matter now? Big markets don't matter according to you so what is it that sways FA's? You're cherry picking here.

And I thought PG was just going to sign with LA?

The Boston Celtics had to wait 28 years before they signed one semi big name in their prime during free agency. They have the 7th biggest media market in the country. Have a great franchise pedigree, owners are willing to spend to the tax. So why did it take us 28 years to sign a semi big name FA and 29 years to sign a big name FA? We're one of the biggest markets in the country that's supposedly the big thing in the NBA. So I'll wait for an answer.

You should know more than me. Obviously something was going on that put off FA's.

Look, I know there's exceptions that could paint a different picture. All I'm saying is small markets don't attract FA's. No one has given me an example of a big name FA signing with one. All you guys have is non stars or using arguments like CP3 left the 2nd largest to go to the 5th? I don't see how that's disproving anything.

What small market has signed a big name? You have far more examples of guys LEAVING those teams than you do of one joining them. LeBron is the one good example here, but I think that's more about him being from Cleveland and wanting to give them a title than it is about markets not mattering. Besides dude left them once anyway lol.

I get it's the teams fault for not doing enough to keep Hayward, but the point is their only option is to build their team in house. Draft and develop, like every other small market. None of those teams have the luxury of signing a big name to play alongside their star.


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[Caveman24]

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We still on this "small market" thing?

[BleacherBum2310]

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When they get murder in the paint come playoff time (or sooner), I promise that I won't say "I told you so."

With all their assets and pieces, yet they haven't drafted, traded for or signed an elite big man (I love Horford, but he isn't elite).

Not Cousins, Aldridge (2 years ago), Griffin, etc. Blake would have been a much, much better signing, although injury concerns are huge. Going small and playing guys out of position won't matter when LeBron is a better PG/SG/SF/PF than everyone on your roster.

from Bills Backer/Spurs Nation HQ

He isn't He's just v good. Elite passer though. I'm fine with long athletic defenders that can switch everything. duh you don't construct a roster to have someone better than Lebron because that guy doesn't exist.

when you watch the C's/Cavs last year were you really going yanno if they just have some rebounding help that would've really put them over the top?!? no it's to have secondary scorer off IT2 so teams can't just blitz him every chance they get whose also really good on the other end as well.

[Fresh Tendrils]

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What small market has signed a big name? You have far more examples of guys LEAVING those teams than you do of one joining them. LeBron is the one good example here, but I think that's more about him being from Cleveland and wanting to give them a title than it is about markets not mattering. Besides dude left them once anyway lol.

I get it's the teams fault for not doing enough to keep Hayward, but the point is their only option is to build their team in house. Draft and develop, like every other small market. None of those teams have the luxury of signing a big name to play alongside their star.

Golden State signed KD. What's their market size? Before last year would we classify them as a large or small market team?

As for the bold - you can't ask for examples of signings and then wipe it away once you put it in context.

[ojandpizza]

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All this free agency stuff getting OS worked up! I like it lol.




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[3304Life]

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Cs are still gonna get bullied on the boards, the extra shooting that Hayward provides won't mean much unless he's hitting them because they got nobody to grab offensive boards. He's not a good enough rebounder or passer to make this a transcendent move and something that could win them a title.

Good pickup but like plenty of people have said, their needs are not in the areas Hayward plays. Somebody like Dedmon in a rotational role would be a solid pickup, McGee too. Basically a true center that can rebound, affect and block shots and catch and finish around the rim.


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