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  • lilteapot
    MVP
    • Aug 2013
    • 4550

    #3796
    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

    Originally posted by 3304Life
    Nothing about what Kyrie has done is professional. His own agent has leaked news about him wanting out, that's not professional.


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    I thought people said Lebrons camp leaked the news?

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    • 23
      yellow
      • Sep 2002
      • 66469

      #3797
      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

      Originally posted by lilteapot
      I thought people said Lebrons camp leaked the news?
      Kyrie asked for a trade before the draft, but never said anything about it.

      Kyrie's agent talked to a few reporters when the news actually leaked about having the meeting but never went into detail about what was discussed.

      Kyrie's camp never said anything because the Cavs didn't want his request to affect any of their trade negotiations.

      Someone leaked it but not from the team or Kyrie.

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      • The 24th Letter
        ERA
        • Oct 2007
        • 39373

        #3798
        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

        If no one from his camp or the team leaked it to anyone else, we wouldn't be hearing about it would we?



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        Last edited by The 24th Letter; 07-23-2017, 07:12 AM.

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        • ProfessaPackMan
          Bamma
          • Mar 2008
          • 63852

          #3799
          2017 Offseason Thread

          We need an investigation into these LEAKS. Very bad for NBA!
          #RespectTheCulture

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          • King_B_Mack
            All Star
            • Jan 2009
            • 24450

            #3800
            Re: 2017 Offseason Thread




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            • tariq071
              Rookie
              • Jun 2012
              • 226

              #3801
              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

              Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
              We need an investigation into these LEAKS. Very bad for NBA!
              It's all kovfefe ! Sad!

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              • CMH
                Making you famous
                • Oct 2002
                • 26203

                #3802
                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                Originally posted by ProfessaPackMan
                We need an investigation into these LEAKS. Very bad for NBA!
                Just waiting for Kyrie to tweet

                "ESPN spreading fake news about meetings. No one knows what we discussed in our secret meeting."

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                "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                • King_B_Mack
                  All Star
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 24450

                  #3803
                  Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                  Sam Amico reporting that the Kings are putting together a trade package of De'Aron Fox, Kosta Koufus, others to make salaries work and draft picks for Kyrie Irving.


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                  • CMH
                    Making you famous
                    • Oct 2002
                    • 26203

                    #3804
                    Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                    Originally posted by King_B_Mack
                    Sam Amico reporting that the Kings are putting together a trade package of De'Aron Fox, Kosta Koufus, others to make salaries work and draft picks for Kyrie Irving.


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                    Life hits people fast in the NBA.

                    So Kings planning to play Kyrie and Hill together? What about Hield? 3 guard set up instead with Randolph and WCS starting?

                    Who am I forgetting?

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                    "It may well be that we spectators, who are not divinely gifted as athletes, are the only ones able to truly see, articulate and animate the experience of the gift we are denied. And that those who receive and act out the gift of athletic genius must, perforce, be blind and dumb about it -- and not because blindness and dumbness are the price of the gift, but because they are its essence." - David Foster Wallace

                    "You'll not find more penny-wise/pound-foolish behavior than in Major League Baseball." - Rob Neyer

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                    • King_B_Mack
                      All Star
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 24450

                      #3805
                      Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                      Lot of guards. Still got Vince, Malachi Richardson, Frank Mason, Garrett Temple, Bogdan Bogdanovic. Though you figure some of these guys would go in a potential deal for salary matching purposes.


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                      • ffaacc03
                        MVP
                        • Oct 2008
                        • 3485

                        #3806
                        Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                        Since we have gotten to the dead part of FA and while we are feasting on jokes about Kyrie and such, how about letting it all loose and go with speculation or go with speculative scenarios (yes, am that bored ) ...


                        Since Kyrie has not a no trade clause, therefor has little leverage and since trading him to either an Eastern conference team or a Western conference powerhouse is counter productive to CLE, I consider this scenario be favorable to CLE and to a great degree, to all involved ...

                        CLE gets:
                        C. Anthony - PF/SF - $ 26.20 - 2 years (from NYK)
                        D. Wade - SG - $ 23.80 - 1 year (from CHI)
                        D. Exum - PG - $ 5.00 - 1 year (from UTA)
                        2019 1st round pick (from UTA)
                        Total incoming = $ 55.00, this year savings = $ 4.30 (almost the triple considering the tax penalty)

                        Other related notes ...
                        - They can sign Rose for the minimum and offer him more playing time, Exum at least can defend when in crunch, thus sacrificing the $ savings
                        - A reunion with Melo and Wade could be positive for LBJ focus and animosity, as well as for team cohesiveness
                        - Next year should LBJ chooses to leave and they don't like Exum nor Wade, they would have $ 61.40 off the payroll, plus still have Carmelo and Love as either trade assets or part of the team
                        - While a very much older version of current CAVS and with worse frontcourt D, I see them as still the Eastern conference lock to the Finals, not considering injuries tho.
                        - Is difficult to win a trade were you are giving away a superstar or close to superstar, but this is as close as you can get to winning it, when the rumor of a discontent one that wants out start


                        NYK gets:
                        D. Favors - PF/C - $ 12.00 - 1 year (from UTA)
                        J. Johnson - SF/PF - $ 10.50 - 1 year (from UTA)
                        C. Payne - PG - $ 2.20 - 2 years (from CHI) or it could also be Grant (since they seem looking to get back players with previous stints)
                        Total incoming = $ 24.70, this year savings = $ 1.50

                        Other related notes ...
                        - They get a young frontcourt player with upside that can man the C, rebound and defend; they get a still productive veteran to play the SF and a young PG with some experience to pair with Nik. Plus tons of $ off the payroll next year.
                        - Same as above about superstars or close to superstars trades, thus to me, this is a clear win for them


                        CHI gets:

                        R. Rubio - PG - $ 14.30 - 2 years (from UTA)
                        I. Shumpert - SG - $ 10.30 - 2 years (from CHI)
                        Total incoming = $ 24.60, this year savings = $ 1.40

                        Other related notes ...
                        - They trade Wade and get an unselfish PG that could make their young's feel more comfortable, plus they get a stablished role player of the bench


                        UTA gets:
                        K. Irving - PG - $ 18.30 - 2 years (from CLE)
                        T. Thompson - C - $ 16.40 - 3 years (from CLE)
                        J. Smith - SG $ 13.80 - 3 years (from CLE)
                        Total incoming = $ 49.00, this year payroll add = $ 6.20

                        Other related notes ...
                        - They will get a Superstar/close to Superstar player, plus two stablished players to add depth to the team
                        - They once again will be within the top 5 teams in the West and Kyrie style and wants might be the player UTA needs
                        - I think is a huge but necessary gamble to try and get to new highs and to do not completely waste their young on his way to a superstar C prime, Kyrie might bolt, but they would be betting on him feeling comfortable as their focal Offensive and with their upside and overall performance


                        What do you guys think ?

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                        • cima
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Sep 2004
                          • 13478

                          #3807
                          Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                          Draymond needs to take this L





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                          • King_B_Mack
                            All Star
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 24450

                            #3808
                            2017 Offseason Thread

                            Man that ain't no damn L. Any celebrity trying to play the "I don't know who you are" card with another celebrity (especially when the celebrity they're trying to pull it on is more famous than them) is automatically disqualified from handing someone an L for such a weak comeback.


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                            • ProfessaPackMan
                              Bamma
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 63852

                              #3809
                              Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                              Originally posted by King_B_Mack



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                              Lebron Only Fans to the Cavs in 2010, Heat in 2014 and again to the Cavs in 2018.

                              Originally posted by CMH
                              Life hits people fast in the NBA.

                              So Kings planning to play Kyrie and Hill together? What about Hield? 3 guard set up instead with Randolph and WCS starting?

                              Who am I forgetting?

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                              They might be able to play that 4 on 5 Offense that their Owner has wanted to play for sometime.
                              Last edited by ProfessaPackMan; 07-23-2017, 10:10 AM.
                              #RespectTheCulture

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                              • The 24th Letter
                                ERA
                                • Oct 2007
                                • 39373

                                #3810
                                Re: 2017 Offseason Thread

                                TBH, I'd say Connor is the more famous one with his global fan base...

                                The only 'L' came with the 'list my accomplishments' response Dray had if you ask me, lol.

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