2017 Offseason Thread

[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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If he can get us in the same trajectory as he did Milwaukee, I'm all for this. (clearly me talking from an Orlando standpoint)

I think overall, he's one of the better drafters you'll find.

Trades have often been either hilariously terrible (ex: trading Tobias for a half year rental of JJ Redick or trading a 1st and 2nd round pick for Greivis Vasquez or trading Bogut for Monta Ellis instead of Steph Curry) or very good (somehow getting out of Miles Plumlee's contract, acquiring John Salmons who turned into a hero for half a season, or turning Brandon Jennings into Khris Middleton and Brandon Knight).

He's generally been terrible when it comes to free agency, but I kinda wonder if this is due to being in a small market and having to take big risks to try to pull one over on the large markets.

On the bright side, he's a really, really nice person.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Some news on the Heat/Chris Bosh situation

Chris Bosh is never going to suit up for the Miami Heat again. A blood clotting issue that sidelined him a couple of seasons back never fully went away and Miami doctors would not clear him last season.

He may never play in the NBA again, but his max contract is an anchor on the Heat’s effort to rebuild. Miami can waive him and apply for an injury hardship to get his salary taken off its cap (Bosh would still get paid, the contract is guaranteed, but it just wouldn’t count against the cap). The concern for Miami was a comeback — under the current NBA rules, if Bosh played 25 games for any other team, his full salary would come back onto their books.

Miami officials and Bosh’s representatives have repaired their relationship, and the two sides — working with the NBA and the players’ union — have an agreement on a deal, reports Barry Jackson of the Miami Herald.

Chris Bosh has told family members that an agreement has been struck among the NBA, the Heat, the union and himself for Bosh to part ways with the Heat at some point in the coming weeks, with the Heat receiving maximum cap relief, an NBA-employed source said in early May and reiterated Tuesday.

There are still details to be worked out so nothing is final, reports Ira Winderman of the Sun-Sentinel. He also does a good job explaining the deal.

Under the CBA in place until June 30, a return to the league by Bosh could have reinstated his salary-cap hit to the Heat’s ledger over the remaining term of his contract, which expires after the 2018-19 season. However, under the CBA that goes into place July 1, once a medical panel comes to an agreement that it no longer considered safe for Bosh to continue his career, there no longer is the risk of Bosh’s cap charge or luxury-tax hit returning to the Heat’s book.

The approach with Bosh, 33, from the league and union apparently is a one-time allocation, with Bosh in the midst of a preexisting condition amid the transition to the incoming work rules.

That seems fair. It lets Miami off the financial hook if he does return, and just as importantly for the team, it gives them financial flexibility going into the draft and free agency — if they want to chase Gordon Hayward or Paul Millsap or someone else, they have the room and no fear of a financial bombshell landing on them.

On the other side, it makes it possible for Bosh to return to the NBA if he wishes. And if he can get cleared medically (which may be difficult, but the people around him say is not impossible).

The question for Bosh is how much he wants to come back at this age — it’s not about the money, he’s got a lot of that now. But it takes a lot of work to get back into NBA shape and prepare his aging body for another marathon of an NBA campaign. After time off, hanging out with his young family and pursuing his diverse other interests, does he want another go at the NBA or is he ready to move on? Only Bosh can answer that, and there isn’t a wrong answer.

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[cima]

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Some news on the Heat/Chris Bosh situation




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Watch Warriors beat the Cavs and then LeBron bring his old big three to join his new big three and commence the quadrilogy next year.

The help comments would reach a whole new level. (yes this was a ****post)

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Oh ok.

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[JazzMan]

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I think overall, he's one of the better drafters you'll find.

Trades have often been either hilariously terrible (ex: trading Tobias for a half year rental of JJ Redick or trading a 1st and 2nd round pick for Greivis Vasquez or trading Bogut for Monta Ellis instead of Steph Curry) or very good (somehow getting out of Miles Plumlee's contract, acquiring John Salmons who turned into a hero for half a season, or turning Brandon Jennings into Khris Middleton and Brandon Knight).

He's generally been terrible when it comes to free agency, but I kinda wonder if this is due to being in a small market and having to take big risks to try to pull one over on the large markets.

On the bright side, he's a really, really nice person.

I mean, he did land Monroe, which was considered a huge acquisition at the time for a small market team.

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[Yeah...THAT Guy]

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I mean, he did land Monroe, which was considered a huge acquisition at the time for a small market team.

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Yeah, but then there's Drew Gooden, OJ Mayo, re-signing Plumlee, Dan Gadzuric, and a bunch of others that were awful.


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[Themayorofawsometown]

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Some news on the Heat/Chris Bosh situation




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And that money is about to go to Dion or JJ[emoji22] (or PG/Gordon Hayward[emoji5] )

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Some news on the Heat/Chris Bosh situation




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Bosh has to be reevaluated by an independent medical panel before he can be cleared, and yeah it would be a lot of work for him to get back to the point of just being able to play.

He's a champ man, should just take that dough and collect more doing other basketball things.

[wwharton]

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Bosh has to be reevaluated by an independent medical panel before he can be cleared, and yeah it would be a lot of work for him to get back to the point of just being able to play.

He's a champ man, should just take that dough and collect more doing other basketball things.

I really feel for him but I agree, he needs to hang em up. I just keep thinking of Hank Gathers who stopped taking his medication because he felt it effected his play. Gone too soon... we don't want to lose you, Chris.

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I really feel for him but I agree, he needs to hang em up. I just keep thinking of Hank Gathers who stopped taking his medication because he felt it effected his play. Gone too soon... we don't want to lose you, Chris.

Boshs medication wasn't helping him and this was a 3 time occurrence so he should take that 20 mil and slide to another place.

I have no doubts he'll excel at whatever he chooses.

[areobee401]

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Chris Paul and San Antonio have mutual interest, per Zach Lowe.

Minnesota view Derrick Rose as a potential free agent signing, per Ian Begley.

[ProfessaPackMan]

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Chris Paul and San Antonio have mutual interest, per Zach Lowe.

Minnesota view Derrick Rose as a potential free agent signing, per Ian Begley.

Would that classify as a "bitch/beta move" for Chris Paul to go from a 50 win team to a 60 win team? Or does that not meet the requirement?

And what would that mean for Rubio and Kris Dunn? Thought Rubio had a solid year for them this season.

[wwharton]

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Boshs medication wasn't helping him and this was a 3 time occurrence so he should take that 20 mil and slide to another place.

I have no doubts he'll excel at whatever he chooses.

He'd be a great analyst.

[wco81]

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Paul would be leaving a lot of money on the table to leave the Clippers.

Plus the Spurs can't give him a max deal, can they, without shedding some contracts?

Hell if he signed for $20-25 million, that would really be a mild form for ring chasing.

Taking up to $100 million less for a better chance to win would be a bitch move?

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Would that classify as a "bitch/beta move" for Chris Paul to go from a 50 win team to a 60 win team? Or does that not meet the requirement?

And what would that mean for Rubio and Kris Dunn? Thought Rubio had a solid year for them this season.

I REALLY wanna hear this too